Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.
Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Found WixEdit though its a little bit old. http://wixedit.sourceforge.net/ a fork has been done which had some source changes until 2015: https://github.com/sebasbaumh/WixEdit Just for the info. Visual Studio seems to have removed the installer projects since visual studio 2011 according to an article. So i might play a little bit with the old wixedit from sourceforge. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at<http://www.hohenems.at> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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Hi, I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile* Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile* Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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Hi, Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall. I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon. Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile* Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall. I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon. Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile* Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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Hi, isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port? we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that. i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at
Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at
Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at
Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at
Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at
Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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That would be a roundabout way to do that when you could use a VPN. RDP is more of a preference on my part, then, I think. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:20 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
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OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1
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Hi, our most stuff is in our local network anyway. though we have some tings connected through a mpls line. our people are not happy with vpn because it seems in their eyes needs more config and security than our pretty expensive and slow mpls lines. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
That would be a roundabout way to do that when you could use a VPN. RDP is more of a preference on my part, then, I think.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:20 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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Well still, Teamviewer is roundabout when you have NVDA remote; use either one or the other, I say. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, our most stuff is in our local network anyway. though we have some tings connected through a mpls line. our people are not happy with vpn because it seems in their eyes needs more config and security than our pretty expensive and slow mpls lines. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
That would be a roundabout way to do that when you could use a VPN. RDP is more of a preference on my part, then, I think.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:20 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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Hi, you can't. you have to start nvda first over teamviewer then you can use nvda remote. we can't have nvda running all the time on the servers and on the clients. sighted people are working on those systems. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 19:57 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
Well still, Teamviewer is roundabout when you have NVDA remote; use either one or the other, I say.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
our most stuff is in our local network anyway. though we have some tings connected through a mpls line. our people are not happy with vpn because it seems in their eyes needs more config and security than our pretty expensive and slow mpls lines.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
That would be a roundabout way to do that when you could use a VPN. RDP is more of a preference on my part, then, I think.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:20 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
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Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
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OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
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Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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In that case ... NVDA over RDP. It's works, and NvDA only runs per account. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:25 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, you can't. you have to start nvda first over teamviewer then you can use nvda remote. we can't have nvda running all the time on the servers and on the clients. sighted people are working on those systems. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 19:57 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
Well still, Teamviewer is roundabout when you have NVDA remote; use either one or the other, I say.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
our most stuff is in our local network anyway. though we have some tings connected through a mpls line. our people are not happy with vpn because it seems in their eyes needs more config and security than our pretty expensive and slow mpls lines.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
That would be a roundabout way to do that when you could use a VPN. RDP is more of a preference on my part, then, I think.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:20 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
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OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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Hi, i still recommend nvda using nvda remote. you have braille and a very quick responsiveness. no lag at all. teamviewer 12 also works pretty well. seems they have a new audio codec. maybe opus. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 20:34 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
In that case ... NVDA over RDP. It's works, and NvDA only runs per account.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:25 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
you can't. you have to start nvda first over teamviewer then you can use nvda remote. we can't have nvda running all the time on the servers and on the clients. sighted people are working on those systems.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 19:57 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
Well still, Teamviewer is roundabout when you have NVDA remote; use either one or the other, I say.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
our most stuff is in our local network anyway. though we have some tings connected through a mpls line. our people are not happy with vpn because it seems in their eyes needs more config and security than our pretty expensive and slow mpls lines.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
That would be a roundabout way to do that when you could use a VPN. RDP is more of a preference on my part, then, I think.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:20 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I wonder if its possible to tunnel NVDA Remote over with teamviewer. so you could get through firewalls.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss:
I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there?
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall.
I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon.
Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal
I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio.
Greetings, Simon
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I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ...
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi,
I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile*
Greetings, Simon
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That's one, though I've seen other examples as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:.
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I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet.
Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package?
Hi Katherine,
Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile*
My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6.
Greetings, Simon
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ...
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Hi all,
Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA?
I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop.
i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in.
It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated.
Greetings, Simon
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Simon, RDP is just a remote log in protocol for win blows. I believe it has a separate audio channel that’s part of the protocol so you should be able to route audio back. Your team viewer idea should also work. Definitely worth staging in a lab and testing. I also know zoom.us<http://zoom.us> is another accessible conferencing tool. Good luck On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>> wrote: Hi, isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port? we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that. i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss: I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall. I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon. Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile* Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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Hi, will look that with teamviewer up. i would just use the audio channel for a short time because its pretty annoying with the delay it has. NVDA just sends commands and text so it can be used on a very low quality connection which is nice. We have some connections where i just iniciate the connection and run nvda using tv (teamviewer) and then disconnect it. and then i use NVDA's remote plugin because that uses less data. Greetings, Simon Am 08.09.2017 um 19:22 schrieb Scott Granados:
Simon, RDP is just a remote log in protocol for win blows. I believe it has a separate audio channel that’s part of the protocol so you should be able to route audio back. Your team viewer idea should also work. Definitely worth staging in a lab and testing. I also know zoom.us<http://zoom.us> is another accessible conferencing tool.
Good luck
On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>> wrote:
Hi,
isn't rdp mostly video? i also guess you can't run many programs over the same port?
we do the most stuff with teamviewer. servers are done using rdp but computers go over that.
i also haven't nvda always running on the servers and other clients. i just activate them after i have connected with teamviewer or rdp.
Greetings, Simon
Am 08.09.2017 um 14:15 schrieb Katherine M. Moss: I'm a Visual Studio user; that's the only environment I'll develop inside, actually. But thanks for the command line. And ... not entirely sure why NVDARemote doesn't use RDP Protocol; the reason why I don't use it; why open port 6667 when 39 is already there? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 2:49 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, Interesting. We hadn't that over here yet. well we still have win 2008r2. though we will migrate to 2016 this autumn/fall. I used this command line parameters to get NVDA on the servers. I got a few errors of sound cards and other stuff but those copies work with nvda remote and my modified start icon. Command line parameters for installer: nvda_2017.3.exe --install-silent --minimal I also played a little bit with some free wix editors: wixedit: looks nice but it seems to forget where its source files are. iswix: looks pretty complex and not very nice to navigate. there are some others but they seem to be outdated or just for visual studio. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I plan to do more than that; we need something for NVDA that will be reliable on servers; this might be a different issue, but it seems that NVDA crashes with the process of updating itself on Windows server 2016. Did that on my deployment server running Otter and Windows server 2016; gave the file is in use error when trying to install (never happens on Windows 10, and they come from the same code base), and then I went to find the shortcut, and it gave me an error about not being able to find the file; running the executable directly brings up a nice error sound with no visible mmessage; just a sound with nothing on the screen. In light of that, I would rather use the MSI (Or MSU (Windows update file process)) for updating servers since that's what they understand the best. Who knows ... can you use WSUS to deploy custom packages? Thought ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:40 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi, I guess there are some more though that was the first one i was able to find. *smile*. Tomorrow i will see how well it does. Have it configured and installed Wix 3.11. I just need it to install a portable copy of NVDA and a modified copy of the icon. Then i am happy. *smile* Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 16:34 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? That's one, though I've seen other examples as well. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:16 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? OK Wrong infoJust found that in the wixtoolset.org website in the download section: Info for Visual Studio: New! WiX Toolset Visual Studio Extension this extension provides integration for the WiX Toolset into Visual Studio. You will still need to install the WiX Toolset v3.11 build tools. Download the appropriate versions from the Visual Studio Marketplace:. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:53 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I think it will be interesting. And for the installers, I think there is an Extension for Visual Studio that could possibly be used; there are a couple of WiX editors out there. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:44 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? I guess it will not make bash go away because of some parts that ps doesn't understand yet. Though here are some betas and the repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell How would you create a MSI file out of the exe? Knowing how it would work would be interesting. Haven't found a free MSI install creator at the moment and haven't looked into wix yet. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 15:36 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Oh. Thanks for that update; I need to brush up ... I want to eventually use powerShell on linux as well; will be nice when PS takes over Bash as the default shell on every Unix system, and then CMD on Windows goes completely away. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi Katherine, Would be great. I played a little bit with MSI Wrapper from www.exemsi.com but i am unsure if everything will work as expected. *smile* My PowerShell skills are not all that well. Need to find a good book first. One should come out in October with PowerShell 5.1 and PowerShell Core 6. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Katherine M. Moss Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. September 2017 14:59 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Batch? Eew. Use PowerShell! LOL Kidding ... No, but I could create one if you want, or at least attempt to ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:31 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA MSI package? Hi all, Anyone heard of a MSI package for NVDA? I also have a second idea also to distribute nvda. I plan to write a batch script that uses robocopy to distribute a portable install of nvda and drops a preconfigured desktop icon on the public desktop. i guess thats better than dropping the folder onto the computer using a gpo. pushing 100 mb across a network with workstations with a slow connection might not be fun while the user logs in. It also might be a good idea to drop a message to the NVDA devs that more and more seem to want to distribute NVDA over many computers which is easier done with something automated. 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