Proxmox Mail Gateway
Hi all, We plan to use Proxmox Mail Gateway. Anyone using that as well? What do you think about it? What about accessibility? Greetings and thanks, Simon
Hi. Not the mail gateway but was looking at their VM solution for a server project I have had on the back burner for a while now. I tried the VM tools and they were reasonably usable so suspect the same is true for the mail gateway. I would say though running your own mail gateway these days is fairly arduous with respect to getting your email accepted at the other end. Most businesses I work with are sending out through a SaaS solution, even if they need to get the mail processed using an on-prem style gateway appliance, they send it out through the SaaS service as the last hop. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2024 9:04 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Proxmox Mail Gateway Hi all, We plan to use Proxmox Mail Gateway. Anyone using that as well? What do you think about it? What about accessibility? Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi Andrew, Thanks for the info. We have installed a demo server for it. Will see how it does. The main navigation menu is a little bit inaccessible. Just words where you hit enter on. Seems to work for the moment. But we will see how it does. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. August 2024 12:23 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Proxmox Mail Gateway Hi. Not the mail gateway but was looking at their VM solution for a server project I have had on the back burner for a while now. I tried the VM tools and they were reasonably usable so suspect the same is true for the mail gateway. I would say though running your own mail gateway these days is fairly arduous with respect to getting your email accepted at the other end. Most businesses I work with are sending out through a SaaS solution, even if they need to get the mail processed using an on-prem style gateway appliance, they send it out through the SaaS service as the last hop. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2024 9:04 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Proxmox Mail Gateway Hi all, We plan to use Proxmox Mail Gateway. Anyone using that as well? What do you think about it? What about accessibility? Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
On 23/8/24 06:23, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
I would say though running your own mail gateway these days is fairly arduous with respect to getting your email accepted at the other end. Most businesses I work with are sending out through a SaaS solution, even if they need to get the mail processed using an on-prem style gateway appliance, they send it out through the SaaS service as the last hop.
Interestingly, I'm not doing that, and I haven't noticed any delivery issues recently. It's a small server primarily used by me. The one instance in the last year or so was most likely due to my provider's network (linode.com) being added to a block list, which they claimed had a poor reputation - and they weren't going to pay the block list company to have the listing removed. However, they contacted the email service provider that was rejecting my messages, and the issue was fully resolved within an hour or two, with no recurrence since then. I do have my SPF, DKIM and DMARC records in place, with outbound messages signed. I check the DMARC reports from time to time in case of issues. For anyone planning to do likewise, my understanding is that the IP address reputation of your hosting or network provider is important, and it may take a while for your domain name to acquire a good reputation with recipients. I found it useful to test my mail server with the service at internet.nl, which verifies a variety of configuration details.
Hi All, As an owner of a web hosting business and in my day job, I have no issues configuring and deploying email servers. If you follow best practices and build a good reputation, you will not have any issues. Delivering to Yahoo based servers are probably the worlds worst. It took some tweaking to figure out a method for reliably delivering high volumes of mail to them correctly using Mailman for example. I do offer a service to customers whereby they can use one of my mail servers as a relay with no issues. You just have to ensure you don't allow Spam to get through. Return Path is one good source to review best practices. If you have the drive and ambition you can certainly get it done. There is a trend that a lot of I.T. shops will opt to move things off premises and defer to SaaS. As the one who gets final say in my day job, I will not be doing this. In fact, I have brought back our Exchange environment because of the way Microsoft nickels and dimes you. The industry needs to seriously reconsider what and how things get moved to the ever expensive cloud. I do recommend off site backup solutions. Most importantly, I do everything we possibly can to keep services in house. You just never know when you are going to want your data back in your hands. At the end of the day, you have to do what makes sense for your organization. Very Kind Regards, Billy -----Original Message----- From: Jason J.G. White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 10:05 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Jason J.G. White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Proxmox Mail Gateway On 23/8/24 06:23, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
I would say though running your own mail gateway these days is fairly arduous with respect to getting your email accepted at the other end. Most businesses I work with are sending out through a SaaS solution, even if they need to get the mail processed using an on-prem style gateway appliance, they send it out through the SaaS service as the last hop.
Interestingly, I'm not doing that, and I haven't noticed any delivery issues recently. It's a small server primarily used by me. The one instance in the last year or so was most likely due to my provider's network (linode.com) being added to a block list, which they claimed had a poor reputation - and they weren't going to pay the block list company to have the listing removed. However, they contacted the email service provider that was rejecting my messages, and the issue was fully resolved within an hour or two, with no recurrence since then. I do have my SPF, DKIM and DMARC records in place, with outbound messages signed. I check the DMARC reports from time to time in case of issues. For anyone planning to do likewise, my understanding is that the IP address reputation of your hosting or network provider is important, and it may take a while for your domain name to acquire a good reputation with recipients. I found it useful to test my mail server with the service at internet.nl, which verifies a variety of configuration details. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi all, Thanks for your replies and the interesting comments. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Billy Irwin via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Montag, 26. August 2024 18:16 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Billy Irwin <billy.irwin@outlook.com> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Proxmox Mail Gateway Hi All, As an owner of a web hosting business and in my day job, I have no issues configuring and deploying email servers. If you follow best practices and build a good reputation, you will not have any issues. Delivering to Yahoo based servers are probably the worlds worst. It took some tweaking to figure out a method for reliably delivering high volumes of mail to them correctly using Mailman for example. I do offer a service to customers whereby they can use one of my mail servers as a relay with no issues. You just have to ensure you don't allow Spam to get through. Return Path is one good source to review best practices. If you have the drive and ambition you can certainly get it done. There is a trend that a lot of I.T. shops will opt to move things off premises and defer to SaaS. As the one who gets final say in my day job, I will not be doing this. In fact, I have brought back our Exchange environment because of the way Microsoft nickels and dimes you. The industry needs to seriously reconsider what and how things get moved to the ever expensive cloud. I do recommend off site backup solutions. Most importantly, I do everything we possibly can to keep services in house. You just never know when you are going to want your data back in your hands. At the end of the day, you have to do what makes sense for your organization. Very Kind Regards, Billy -----Original Message----- From: Jason J.G. White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 10:05 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Jason J.G. White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Proxmox Mail Gateway On 23/8/24 06:23, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
I would say though running your own mail gateway these days is fairly arduous with respect to getting your email accepted at the other end. Most businesses I work with are sending out through a SaaS solution, even if they need to get the mail processed using an on-prem style gateway appliance, they send it out through the SaaS service as the last hop.
Interestingly, I'm not doing that, and I haven't noticed any delivery issues recently. It's a small server primarily used by me. The one instance in the last year or so was most likely due to my provider's network (linode.com) being added to a block list, which they claimed had a poor reputation - and they weren't going to pay the block list company to have the listing removed. However, they contacted the email service provider that was rejecting my messages, and the issue was fully resolved within an hour or two, with no recurrence since then. I do have my SPF, DKIM and DMARC records in place, with outbound messages signed. I check the DMARC reports from time to time in case of issues. For anyone planning to do likewise, my understanding is that the IP address reputation of your hosting or network provider is important, and it may take a while for your domain name to acquire a good reputation with recipients. I found it useful to test my mail server with the service at internet.nl, which verifies a variety of configuration details. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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