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23 Nov 2016 23 Nov '16

5:38 p.m.

Hi All, Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated. Many thanks, Paul. *** --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Scott Granados

24 Nov 24 Nov

12:38 a.m.

So I don’t know if this helps but Macs have a fully accessible file vault system that encrypts the entire drive and allows you to enter your password to boot complete with voice support. I’m not sure on the PC side, maybe others have better suggestions.

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On Nov 23, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Mailing Lists wrote:

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)

9:57 a.m.

Hi, I Have used Bitlocker, it encrypts the drive completely and just runs in the background. Unfortunately if the Bitlockers is activated, it comes up right at the start of the boot sequence and it not accessible as there is no OS loaded at that point. You can configure it in the control panel and I havehad a limited play with this and it looks doable but with the JAWS cursor sometimes. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop! Hi All, Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated. Many thanks, Paul. *** --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.nhsdigital.nhs.uk/nhsmail ********************************************************************************************************************

Caroline Ford

12:27 p.m.

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works. Caroline. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop! Hi All, Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated. Many thanks, Paul. *** --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins This e-mail expresses the opinion of the author and is not necessarily the view of the Council. Please be aware that anything included in an e-mail may have to be disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act and cannot be regarded as confidential. This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. Please notify the sender if received in error. All Email is monitored and recorded. Please think before you print- North Lincolnshire Council greening the workplace.

Scott Granados

1:56 p.m.

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

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On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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Katherine Moss

4:45 p.m.

The technology is out there,, especially with UEFI, but there doesn't seem to be anybody skilled enough to implement it. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:56 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop! That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

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On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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Katherine Moss

4:45 p.m.

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On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)

25 Nov 25 Nov

8:50 a.m.

Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop! That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...

On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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John G. Heim

2:36 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals. Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core. On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...

Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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Scott Granados

4:34 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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Katherine Moss

9:15 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

It's amazing how many folks who wwork for NFB and don't take that view ... a friend of mine ... for instance. When he hears about that ... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 11:35 AM To: jheim@math.wisc.edu; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption) Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

***

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Scott Granados

11:52 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

So I know someone very well who was in the room when one of the checks changed hands from Ted Henter to Mark Maurer. As long as the management is paid off that’s how the direction shall be.:). Remember it wasn’t just Microsoft who was targeted. The NFB targeted Apple with many hit pieces and continued to years after Apple’s voice over had become a viable option. Unlike Microsoft, Apple did the right thing and ignored the NFB during that time.

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:

It's amazing how many folks who wwork for NFB and don't take that view ... a friend of mine ... for instance. When he hears about that ...

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 11:35 AM To: jheim@math.wisc.edu; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption)

Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.

...
On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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Katherine Moss

9:15 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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Kelly Prescott

9:47 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

I think there is probably something to this... I once asked how come the NFB wasn't more aggressive in trying to get some accessibility stuff done for some Microsoft server related things, and the response I got was is that it did not get enough media attention and therefore things that were more publicity oriented would be done. When I delved into this, I was also handed the line that it was only relavent to a small amount of people... So I guess it has to be "big" and a lot of people must be effected for the blindness organizations to even attempt it. These were not by any means all the people in the organization, but it is a fact that the membership tends to "blindly" follow the leadership... ;) -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:35 AM To: jheim@math.wisc.edu; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption) Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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Billy Irwin

11:47 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

Hi All, I am very much affected by this.When asking several years ago, I got the same answers. So many of the vendors should be making their systems backend accessible to I.T. professionals that are blind/visually impaired. As I get older, my vision is decreasing to the point that TTS is becoming more useful but less available. This even leads me to wonder what my future in I.T. is going to be. I am more than interested in helping the cause. Thanks, Billy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:47 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption) I think there is probably something to this... I once asked how come the NFB wasn't more aggressive in trying to get some accessibility stuff done for some Microsoft server related things, and the response I got was is that it did not get enough media attention and therefore things that were more publicity oriented would be done. When I delved into this, I was also handed the line that it was only relavent to a small amount of people... So I guess it has to be "big" and a lot of people must be effected for the blindness organizations to even attempt it. These were not by any means all the people in the organization, but it is a fact that the membership tends to "blindly" follow the leadership... ;) -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:35 AM To: jheim@math.wisc.edu; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption) Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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Billy Irwin

11:47 p.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

...

On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

...
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

...
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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John G. Heim

26 Nov 26 Nov

1:42 a.m.

New subject: talking installs (was encryyption)

I don't think that I have ever had to install Windows for my job. I am a linux systems admin. I just think those of us who have made it owe it to the people coming up to do the best we can for them. After all, most of us have benefitted from the work done by those who came before. Anyone on this list contributed a line of code to a screen reader? Anyone on this list responsible for getting those 508 regulations pushed through? The reason Mac OS comes with a screen reader is because of those regulations. We have all benefitted from the hard work of the people who came before us. Pay it forward. On 11/25/2016 05:47 PM, Billy Irwin wrote:

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Hi All,

I am very much affected by this.When asking several years ago, I got the same answers. So many of the vendors should be making their systems backend accessible to I.T. professionals that are blind/visually impaired. As I get older, my vision is decreasing to the point that TTS is becoming more useful but less available. This even leads me to wonder what my future in I.T. is going to be. I am more than interested in helping the cause.

Thanks,

Billy

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:47 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption)

I think there is probably something to this... I once asked how come the NFB wasn't more aggressive in trying to get some accessibility stuff done for some Microsoft server related things, and the response I got was is that it did not get enough media attention and therefore things that were more publicity oriented would be done. When I delved into this, I was also handed the line that it was only relavent to a small amount of people... So I guess it has to be "big" and a lot of people must be effected for the blindness organizations to even attempt it. These were not by any means all the people in the organization, but it is a fact that the membership tends to "blindly" follow the leadership... ;)

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:35 AM To: jheim@math.wisc.edu; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption)

Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.

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On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.

Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.

On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:

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Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.

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On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford wrote:

We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.

Caroline.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!

Hi All,

Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.

Many thanks,

Paul.

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