Hi, I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format. Thanks. Dave. On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

Thanks. Dave.

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Hi, Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be discussed on more of the general lists possibly? Discuss. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure boot compatible if you use that tool. On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format.

Thanks. Dave.

On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

...

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

Thanks. Dave.

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Hi It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on. I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and the like. Cheers, Ben. On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:

Doesn't bother me.

On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote:

...

Hi,

Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself.

On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be discussed on more of the general lists possibly?

Discuss. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure boot compatible if you use that tool.

On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi,

I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format.

Thanks. Dave.

On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

...

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

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personally, I don't have a problem. However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff yourself.  This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really should be tried before writing to a list like this.  I am happy to help if I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them. Brian. On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

Hi

It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on.

I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and the like.

Cheers, Ben.

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Doesn't bother me.

On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote:

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Hi,

Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself.

On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be discussed on more of the general lists possibly?

Discuss. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure boot compatible if you use that tool.

On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi,

I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format.

Thanks. Dave.

On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

...

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

Thanks. Dave.

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I tend to agree with Brian and Ben. Many of these questions are not really accessibility-related and are well documented, every-day things that we all deal with. Since traffic is generally light I don't get too worked up about the oddball questions--but, since you asked ... Then again, I have been in the field for 20 years so my perspective may be a bit jaded. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 09:16 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot personally, I don't have a problem. However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff yourself. This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really should be tried before writing to a list like this. I am happy to help if I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them. Brian. On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

Hi

It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on.

I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and the like.

Cheers, Ben.

On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:

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Doesn't bother me.

On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote:

...

Hi,

Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself.

On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be discussed on more of the general lists possibly?

Discuss. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure boot compatible if you use that tool.

On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi,

I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format.

Thanks. Dave.

On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

...

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

Thanks. Dave.

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Hi: When I first joined this list many years ago, it was because I was looking for other blind people in the IT field, sysadmins, sysadmins in training, etc. to be able to share experiences with, bounce ideas off of, etc. I think this list has served very well for that, even in my new roll I still pay close attention to the issues being faced, both Microsoft and on a wider trend to know what's important. I agree with many here that while in many situations just looking stuff up on Google can solve problems, it can be a lot more difficult for a blind person to look through the Google results, parse out screen shots etc. and sometimes dealing with documentation issues itself can be tough. To be fair I'm not saying this list should turn into a crutch for people and that a good Google try shouldn't be given, it should be, I think just keeping things in mind is a good thing. I think sysadmin topics can easily branch into a more general area, this is a good example as this is something that could be very easily need to be done in some companies. I think so long as the target of the list is kept in mind, we're OK. But that's just my $.02. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of "matt.bsa@wh1t3.net" <matt.bsa@wh1t3.net> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:11 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>, 'Ben Mustill-Rose' <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot I tend to agree with Brian and Ben. Many of these questions are not really accessibility-related and are well documented, every-day things that we all deal with. Since traffic is generally light I don't get too worked up about the oddball questions--but, since you asked ... Then again, I have been in the field for 20 years so my perspective may be a bit jaded. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 09:16 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot personally, I don't have a problem. However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff yourself. This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really should be tried before writing to a list like this. I am happy to help if I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them. Brian. On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Hi > > It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic > list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible > ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. > Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on. > > I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't > actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. > Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something > you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the > IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable > skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for > myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the > constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do > more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and > the like. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> Doesn't bother me. >> >> On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is >>> the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. >>> >>> On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all >>> the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to >>> get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we >>> haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be >>> discussed on more of the general lists possibly? >>> >>> Discuss. >>> Andrew. >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Blind-sysadmins >>> [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] >>> on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] >>> Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 >>> To: Blind sysadmins list >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot >>> >>> Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot >>> using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure >>> boot compatible if you use that tool. >>> >>> On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt >>>> partition for UEFI and Fat32 format. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote: >>>>> How did you write win 10 to the drive? >>>>> >>>>> On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, >>>>>> which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure >>>>>> boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or >>>>>> both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kieran Little >> IT Apprentice >> Information Services >> Northumberland County Council >> County Hall >> Morpeth >> NE61 2EF >> Service desk: 01670 627004 >> Direct: 01670623699 >> Email: kieran.little@northumberland.gov.uk >> Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk >> >> -- >> <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk> >> >> *Save Time Do It Online!* >> We have made >> a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to >> access. 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I am glad to be a part of this group. I have never seen any topics or threads that I thought were inappropriate. For being a global list group, there isn't that much traffic on this list and their art that many of us. I would encourage the moderator to allow the scope to be a little more broad rather than restrictive even if it strays a little bit off topic. If there is a thread which is not pertinent to me. I have no trouble ignoring the topic. People have been using accurate subject lines so it is easy to know what is being discussed. This is a great place for blind IT professionals to get help. Things do not appear to be getting out of hand. I would hope that people would feel free to ask for help on this list rather then being afraid of being told they need to go elsewhere because they are slightly off topic. Thanks ### -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:10 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot Hello, Didn't mean to start a contraversary. To end this none of the suggestions had worked so I just got a pair of eyes and went in to UEFI and turned off secure boot. This is on a Lenovo laptop I then hit f12 on this laptop it was fn+f12 went in to the boot menu, took a phone screen shot found out that the bootable thumb drive was a single down arrow and enter, and got the system to boot off of thumb drive. Thanks. Dave. On 4/24/18, Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> wrote:

Hi: When I first joined this list many years ago, it was because I was looking for other blind people in the IT field, sysadmins, sysadmins in training, etc. to be able to share experiences with, bounce ideas off of, etc. I think this list has served very well for that, even in my new roll I still pay close attention to the issues being faced, both Microsoft and on a wider trend to know what's important. I agree with many here that while in many situations just looking stuff up on Google can solve problems, it can be a lot more difficult for a blind person to look through the Google results, parse out screen shots etc. and sometimes dealing with documentation issues itself can be tough. To be fair I'm not saying this list should turn into a crutch for people and that a good Google try shouldn't be given, it should be, I think just keeping things in mind is a good thing. I think sysadmin topics can easily branch into a more general area, this is a good example as this is something that could be very easily need to be done in some companies. I think so long as the target of the list is kept in mind, we're OK. But that's just my $.02. Ryan

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of "matt.bsa@wh1t3.net" <matt.bsa@wh1t3.net> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:11 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>, 'Ben Mustill-Rose' <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

I tend to agree with Brian and Ben. Many of these questions are not really accessibility-related and are well documented, every-day things that we all deal with. Since traffic is generally light I don't get too worked up about the oddball questions--but, since you asked ...

Then again, I have been in the field for 20 years so my perspective may be a bit jaded.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 09:16 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

personally, I don't have a problem.

However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff yourself. This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really should be tried before writing to a list like this. I am happy to help if I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them.

Brian.

On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Hi > > It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic > list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible > ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. > Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on. > > I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't

> actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. > Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something > you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the

> IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable

> skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for

> myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the > constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do

> more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and > the like. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> Doesn't bother me. >> >> On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is >>> the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. >>> >>> On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all >>> the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to

>>> get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we >>> haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be >>> discussed on more of the general lists possibly? >>> >>> Discuss. >>> Andrew. >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Blind-sysadmins >>> [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] >>> on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] >>> Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 >>> To: Blind sysadmins list >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot >>> >>> Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot

>>> using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure

>>> boot compatible if you use that tool. >>> >>> On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt

>>>> partition for UEFI and Fat32 format. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote: >>>>> How did you write win 10 to the drive? >>>>> >>>>> On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive,

>>>>>> which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure >>>>>> boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or

>>>>>> both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kieran Little >> IT Apprentice >> Information Services >> Northumberland County Council >> County Hall >> Morpeth >> NE61 2EF >> Service desk: 01670 627004 >> Direct: 01670623699 >> Email: kieran.little@northumberland.gov.uk >> Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk >> >> -- >> <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk> >> >> *Save Time Do It Online!* >> We have made >> a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to >> access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to >> reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/> and >> click 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. >> >> >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged

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>> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on

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Hi guys, Sorry about that, I will calm down now. Must have been having a bad day I guess. Its for the members so if people are happy with it then that is fine, I just saw a couple of unsubscribes and wondered what the general feeling was amung the people. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Troy Hergert [thergert@vision-forward.org] Sent: 25 April 2018 13:37 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot I am glad to be a part of this group. I have never seen any topics or threads that I thought were inappropriate. For being a global list group, there isn't that much traffic on this list and their art that many of us. I would encourage the moderator to allow the scope to be a little more broad rather than restrictive even if it strays a little bit off topic. If there is a thread which is not pertinent to me. I have no trouble ignoring the topic. People have been using accurate subject lines so it is easy to know what is being discussed. This is a great place for blind IT professionals to get help. Things do not appear to be getting out of hand. I would hope that people would feel free to ask for help on this list rather then being afraid of being told they need to go elsewhere because they are slightly off topic. Thanks ### -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:10 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot Hello, Didn't mean to start a contraversary. To end this none of the suggestions had worked so I just got a pair of eyes and went in to UEFI and turned off secure boot. This is on a Lenovo laptop I then hit f12 on this laptop it was fn+f12 went in to the boot menu, took a phone screen shot found out that the bootable thumb drive was a single down arrow and enter, and got the system to boot off of thumb drive. Thanks. Dave. On 4/24/18, Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> wrote:

Hi: When I first joined this list many years ago, it was because I was looking for other blind people in the IT field, sysadmins, sysadmins in training, etc. to be able to share experiences with, bounce ideas off of, etc. I think this list has served very well for that, even in my new roll I still pay close attention to the issues being faced, both Microsoft and on a wider trend to know what's important. I agree with many here that while in many situations just looking stuff up on Google can solve problems, it can be a lot more difficult for a blind person to look through the Google results, parse out screen shots etc. and sometimes dealing with documentation issues itself can be tough. To be fair I'm not saying this list should turn into a crutch for people and that a good Google try shouldn't be given, it should be, I think just keeping things in mind is a good thing. I think sysadmin topics can easily branch into a more general area, this is a good example as this is something that could be very easily need to be done in some companies. I think so long as the target of the list is kept in mind, we're OK. But that's just my $.02. Ryan

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of "matt.bsa@wh1t3.net" <matt.bsa@wh1t3.net> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:11 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>, 'Ben Mustill-Rose' <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

I tend to agree with Brian and Ben. Many of these questions are not really accessibility-related and are well documented, every-day things that we all deal with. Since traffic is generally light I don't get too worked up about the oddball questions--but, since you asked ...

Then again, I have been in the field for 20 years so my perspective may be a bit jaded.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 09:16 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

personally, I don't have a problem.

However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff yourself. This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really should be tried before writing to a list like this. I am happy to help if I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them.

Brian.

On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Hi > > It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic > list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible > ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. > Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on. > > I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't

> actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. > Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something > you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the

> IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable

> skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for

> myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the > constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do

> more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and > the like. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> Doesn't bother me. >> >> On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is >>> the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. >>> >>> On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all >>> the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to

>>> get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we >>> haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be >>> discussed on more of the general lists possibly? >>> >>> Discuss. >>> Andrew. >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Blind-sysadmins >>> [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] >>> on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] >>> Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 >>> To: Blind sysadmins list >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot >>> >>> Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot

>>> using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure

>>> boot compatible if you use that tool. >>> >>> On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt

>>>> partition for UEFI and Fat32 format. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote: >>>>> How did you write win 10 to the drive? >>>>> >>>>> On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive,

>>>>>> which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure >>>>>> boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or

>>>>>> both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kieran Little >> IT Apprentice >> Information Services >> Northumberland County Council >> County Hall >> Morpeth >> NE61 2EF >> Service desk: 01670 627004 >> Direct: 01670623699 >> Email: kieran.little@northumberland.gov.uk >> Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk >> >> -- >> <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk> >> >> *Save Time Do It Online!* >> We have made >> a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to >> access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to >> reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/> and >> click 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. >> >> >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged

>> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that

>> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on

>> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email >> in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or

>> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant >> legislation. >> >> >> *Please, consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing

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Hello, Didn't mean to start a contraversary. To end this none of the suggestions had worked so I just got a pair of eyes and went in to UEFI and turned off secure boot. This is on a Lenovo laptop I then hit f12 on this laptop it was fn+f12 went in to the boot menu, took a phone screen shot found out that the bootable thumb drive was a single down arrow and enter, and got the system to boot off of thumb drive. Thanks. Dave. On 4/24/18, Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> wrote:

Hi: When I first joined this list many years ago, it was because I was looking for other blind people in the IT field, sysadmins, sysadmins in training, etc. to be able to share experiences with, bounce ideas off of, etc. I think this list has served very well for that, even in my new roll I still pay close attention to the issues being faced, both Microsoft and on a wider trend to know what's important. I agree with many here that while in many situations just looking stuff up on Google can solve problems, it can be a lot more difficult for a blind person to look through the Google results, parse out screen shots etc. and sometimes dealing with documentation issues itself can be tough. To be fair I'm not saying this list should turn into a crutch for people and that a good Google try shouldn't be given, it should be, I think just keeping things in mind is a good thing. I think sysadmin topics can easily branch into a more general area, this is a good example as this is something that could be very easily need to be done in some companies. I think so long as the target of the list is kept in mind, we're OK. But that's just my $.02. Ryan

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of "matt.bsa@wh1t3.net" <matt.bsa@wh1t3.net> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:11 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>, 'Ben Mustill-Rose' <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

I tend to agree with Brian and Ben. Many of these questions are not really accessibility-related and are well documented, every-day things that we all deal with. Since traffic is generally light I don't get too worked up about the oddball questions--but, since you asked ...

Then again, I have been in the field for 20 years so my perspective may be a bit jaded.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 09:16 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot

personally, I don't have a problem.

However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff yourself. This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really should be tried before writing to a list like this. I am happy to help if I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them.

Brian.

On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Hi > > It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic > list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible > ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. > Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on. > > I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't

> actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. > Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something > you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the

> IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable

> skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for

> myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the > constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do

> more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and > the like. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> Doesn't bother me. >> >> On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is >>> the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. >>> >>> On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all >>> the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to

>>> get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we >>> haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be >>> discussed on more of the general lists possibly? >>> >>> Discuss. >>> Andrew. >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Blind-sysadmins >>> [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] >>> on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] >>> Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 >>> To: Blind sysadmins list >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot >>> >>> Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot

>>> using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure

>>> boot compatible if you use that tool. >>> >>> On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt

>>>> partition for UEFI and Fat32 format. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote: >>>>> How did you write win 10 to the drive? >>>>> >>>>> On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive,

>>>>>> which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure >>>>>> boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or

>>>>>> both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kieran Little >> IT Apprentice >> Information Services >> Northumberland County Council >> County Hall >> Morpeth >> NE61 2EF >> Service desk: 01670 627004 >> Direct: 01670623699 >> Email: kieran.little@northumberland.gov.uk >> Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk >> >> -- >> <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk> >> >> *Save Time Do It Online!* >> We have made >> a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to >> access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to >> reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/> and >> click 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. >> >> >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged

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Please don't stop discussing these things on here. The more general lists are far too noisy for me to cope with and the quality of contributions and responses are not a patch on what we get on here. Phil. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 23 April 2018 12:11 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot Hi, Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be discussed on more of the general lists possibly? Discuss. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben@benmr.com] Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure boot compatible if you use that tool. On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format.

Thanks. Dave.

On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

...

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

Thanks. Dave.

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Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure boot compatible if you use that tool. On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt partition for UEFI and Fat32 format.

Thanks. Dave.

On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:

...

How did you write win 10 to the drive?

On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10?

Thanks. Dave.

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