dude, are you ok? At 09:44 AM 12/19/2014, you wrote:

Hm beer? Do you meen a thing to drink?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: den 19 december 2014 15:40 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Off Topic: Beer

There is no such thing as bad beer: some just tastes better than others.

OK, may be that isn't entirely accurate. I did try a sour beer at a craft brewery in Victoria. It would take be some time before I would be able to develop an appreciation for it. It reminded me of a batch of beer I had to throw away, because fruit flies got into my carboy just before I was ready to bottle it.

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I think you mean mainstream American beer was pretty aweful. There have always been breweries like Anchor in SF and Point in Wisconsin. Actually, I'd say even Miller and Bud aren't too bad. It's the similarity and the blandness that are the problems. Sometimes a Bud is the right beer for the job. I belong to a running group called the Hash House Harriers. We traditionally have several beer stops during a hour long run. Bud, Miller, or whatever is the right beer for that situation. But I don't want a Bud when I sit down to a steak dinner. I used to go to a bar and the bartender found out I could identify beers by one sip. He'd put a glass of beer in front of me and I'd take a sip and say, "That's Miller." Or "That's Pabst." They thought I was some kind of savant. It was ridiculous. The point is that the beers were so similar that most people couldn't tell them apart. On 12/19/2014 09:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Used to be that United States beer was pretty awful but with the Craft brewing trend lately there are a lot of good small options now. I like Loganitas a lot, they have a good IPA and they have some others. WTF is good as is Under Cover Shutdown. Dog Fish is another company that’s doing cool things. Not only a beer fan but also love the Scotch.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

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There is no such thing as bad beer: some just tastes better than others.

OK, may be that isn't entirely accurate. I did try a sour beer at a craft brewery in Victoria. It would take be some time before I would be able to develop an appreciation for it. It reminded me of a batch of beer I had to throw away, because fruit flies got into my carboy just before I was ready to bottle it.

Vic

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Hi, When I was in the US a few weeks back I tended to go for most of the IPA beers which are sort of similar to the real ales we drink in the UK, except you guys in the US drink cold beer and the real ales aren't chilled. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 19 December 2014 15:51 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Off Topic: Beer John, that's a great point. Yes, mainstream beers were not the best. We've had Sam Adams here on the east coast for a long time as well and I do like their beers. I went to Europe in 1992 and spent a year there, it was supposed to be 3 weeks but I got delayed in Amsterdam.:) Was exposed to a lot of beer there though and at that time the craft brew movement wasn't nearly as big as it is now. I really do think we in the US have some excellent beers now that can compare on a world stage. There are some classics though as you point out that I omitted that really were good. On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:43 AM, John G Heim wrote:

I think you mean mainstream American beer was pretty aweful. There have always been breweries like Anchor in SF and Point in Wisconsin.

Actually, I'd say even Miller and Bud aren't too bad. It's the similarity and the blandness that are the problems. Sometimes a Bud is the right beer for the job. I belong to a running group called the Hash House Harriers. We traditionally have several beer stops during a hour long run. Bud, Miller, or whatever is the right beer for that situation. But I don't want a Bud when I sit down to a steak dinner.

I used to go to a bar and the bartender found out I could identify beers by one sip. He'd put a glass of beer in front of me and I'd take a sip and say, "That's Miller." Or "That's Pabst." They thought I was some kind of savant. It was ridiculous. The point is that the beers were so similar that most people couldn't tell them apart.

On 12/19/2014 09:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

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Used to be that United States beer was pretty awful but with the Craft brewing trend lately there are a lot of good small options now. I like Loganitas a lot, they have a good IPA and they have some others. WTF is good as is Under Cover Shutdown. Dog Fish is another company that's doing cool things. Not only a beer fan but also love the Scotch.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

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There is no such thing as bad beer: some just tastes better than others.

OK, may be that isn't entirely accurate. I did try a sour beer at a craft brewery in Victoria. It would take be some time before I would be able to develop an appreciation for it. It reminded me of a batch of beer I had to throw away, because fruit flies got into my carboy just before I was ready to bottle it.

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The reason craft beers have taken off is that home brewing became so popular. It wasn't legal to brew your own beer until sometime around 1970. My grandfather owned a dairy farm in Northern Wisconsin and I doubt that he knew it was illegal to brew your own beer. Three things I don't remember learning how to do, ice skate, play sheepshead, and drink beer. On 12/19/2014 09:51 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

John, that’s a great point. Yes, mainstream beers were not the best. We’ve had Sam Adams here on the east coast for a long time as well and I do like their beers.

I went to Europe in 1992 and spent a year there, it was supposed to be 3 weeks but I got delayed in Amsterdam.:) Was exposed to a lot of beer there though and at that time the craft brew movement wasn’t nearly as big as it is now. I really do think we in the US have some excellent beers now that can compare on a world stage. There are some classics though as you point out that I omitted that really were good.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:43 AM, John G Heim wrote:

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I think you mean mainstream American beer was pretty aweful. There have always been breweries like Anchor in SF and Point in Wisconsin.

Actually, I'd say even Miller and Bud aren't too bad. It's the similarity and the blandness that are the problems. Sometimes a Bud is the right beer for the job. I belong to a running group called the Hash House Harriers. We traditionally have several beer stops during a hour long run. Bud, Miller, or whatever is the right beer for that situation. But I don't want a Bud when I sit down to a steak dinner.

I used to go to a bar and the bartender found out I could identify beers by one sip. He'd put a glass of beer in front of me and I'd take a sip and say, "That's Miller." Or "That's Pabst." They thought I was some kind of savant. It was ridiculous. The point is that the beers were so similar that most people couldn't tell them apart.

On 12/19/2014 09:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

...

Used to be that United States beer was pretty awful but with the Craft brewing trend lately there are a lot of good small options now. I like Loganitas a lot, they have a good IPA and they have some others. WTF is good as is Under Cover Shutdown. Dog Fish is another company that’s doing cool things. Not only a beer fan but also love the Scotch.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

...

There is no such thing as bad beer: some just tastes better than others.

OK, may be that isn't entirely accurate. I did try a sour beer at a craft brewery in Victoria. It would take be some time before I would be able to develop an appreciation for it. It reminded me of a batch of beer I had to throw away, because fruit flies got into my carboy just before I was ready to bottle it.

Vic

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I wouldn't be good at a beer mile. Distance is more my thing. 4 miles is a short run for me. But if I was going to try to do a beer mile, I'd go with PBR. I dunno. I think all those beers, Miller, PBR, Bud Light, are all pretty good if you're sitting around a pool on a hot day. When I went to the lake with my family this summer, I drank Miller Lite all day and it was pretty good. You can have like 3 or 4 of those during a day and not have it effect you too much. And something like Guinness would be yucky. Again, what I think is strange is that lots of people drink nothing but that stuff. I think it's because then they can just put 'em down, one after another. On 12/19/2014 10:31 AM, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Look up the beer mile. You might want to get involved in that event.

Right now the hipsters are making Paps Blue Ribbon very popular up here in some of the pubs. The advantage that beer (and I use the term loosely) on tap is that it is not as sweet as a soft drink.

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I think you mean mainstream American beer was pretty aweful. There have always been breweries like Anchor in SF and Point in Wisconsin.

Actually, I'd say even Miller and Bud aren't too bad. It's the similarity and the blandness that are the problems. Sometimes a Bud is the right beer for the job. I belong to a running group called the Hash House Harriers. We traditionally have several beer stops during a hour long run. Bud, Miller, or whatever is the right beer for that situation. But I don't want a Bud when I sit down to a steak dinner.

I used to go to a bar and the bartender found out I could identify beers by one sip. He'd put a glass of beer in front of me and I'd take a sip and say, "That's Miller." Or "That's Pabst." They thought I was some kind of savant. It was ridiculous. The point is that the beers were so similar that most people couldn't tell them apart.

On 12/19/2014 09:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

...

Used to be that United States beer was pretty awful but with the Craft brewing trend lately there are a lot of good small options now. I like Loganitas a lot, they have a good IPA and they have some others. WTF is good as is Under Cover Shutdown. Dog Fish is another company that’s doing cool things. Not only a beer fan but also love the Scotch.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

...

There is no such thing as bad beer: some just tastes better than others.

OK, may be that isn't entirely accurate. I did try a sour beer at a craft brewery in Victoria. It would take be some time before I would be able to develop an appreciation for it. It reminded me of a batch of beer I had to throw away, because fruit flies got into my carboy just before I was ready to bottle it.

Vic

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