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Ibraam Wahib

8 Dec 2011 8 Dec '11

12:40 p.m.

hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Darragh OHeiligh

8 Dec 8 Dec

12:47 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Greetings, Are many of you using NVDA for reasonably complicated administration work? For example, group policy, Active directory, Linux server, SCCM, SCOM, Backup Exec / Data protecter, San management, VSphere, Hyper-V, Anti Virus such as Trend OfficeScan etc? I'm not really interested in using the day to day applications like word, Outlook and all that. I've begun using it and I'm finding it is very powerful. I'd love remote desktop support but I'm sure they'll get to that eventually. If your using it for system administration would you mind telling me what applications your using it with and what problems you've encountered? Maybe tell me a bit about why you prefer it over Jaws, Window Eyes or Hal as I ? I might try to write up a page for www.blindsysadmins.com Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie

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Mario Perčinić

1:38 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Great topic. Maybe guys from the curtain university in Perth have more expirience with it in practical situations. -----Original Message----- From: Darragh OHeiligh Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 1:47 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Greetings, Are many of you using NVDA for reasonably complicated administration work? For example, group policy, Active directory, Linux server, SCCM, SCOM, Backup Exec / Data protecter, San management, VSphere, Hyper-V, Anti Virus such as Trend OfficeScan etc? I'm not really interested in using the day to day applications like word, Outlook and all that. I've begun using it and I'm finding it is very powerful. I'd love remote desktop support but I'm sure they'll get to that eventually. If your using it for system administration would you mind telling me what applications your using it with and what problems you've encountered? Maybe tell me a bit about why you prefer it over Jaws, Window Eyes or Hal as I ? I might try to write up a page for www.blindsysadmins.com Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Ryan Shugart

2:51 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Darrah: I took a look at NVDA earlier this year and found it worked reasonably well. AD, group policy and SCCM all worked reasonably well but then those were all MMCs. I didn't try SCOM with it but it isn't an MMC, and with Window-Eyes SCOM worked horribly. We don't use SCOM where I work so I didn't play much. VSphere worked pretty well with it, at least as well as JAWS and Window-Eyes, NVDA seemed to do a better job at keeping the focus in one place. For newer applications, such as SCCM 2012 and SCSM that are going all UIA, I have concerns, but that also applies to JFW and Window-Eyes too. For me, the lack of RDP is a big barrior, as I work out of a branch office and not our main datacenter. I don't think RDP is high on the NVDA road map, as NVDA seems more focused on home settings and not that many people use RDP at home. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh OHeiligh Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:47 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Greetings, Are many of you using NVDA for reasonably complicated administration work? For example, group policy, Active directory, Linux server, SCCM, SCOM, Backup Exec / Data protecter, San management, VSphere, Hyper-V, Anti Virus such as Trend OfficeScan etc? I'm not really interested in using the day to day applications like word, Outlook and all that. I've begun using it and I'm finding it is very powerful. I'd love remote desktop support but I'm sure they'll get to that eventually. If your using it for system administration would you mind telling me what applications your using it with and what problems you've encountered? Maybe tell me a bit about why you prefer it over Jaws, Window Eyes or Hal as I ? I might try to write up a page for www.blindsysadmins.com Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Ryan Shugart

2:51 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Darrah: I took a look at NVDA earlier this year and found it worked reasonably well. AD, group policy and SCCM all worked reasonably well but then those were all MMCs. I didn't try SCOM with it but it isn't an MMC, and with Window-Eyes SCOM worked horribly. We don't use SCOM where I work so I didn't play much. VSphere worked pretty well with it, at least as well as JAWS and Window-Eyes, NVDA seemed to do a better job at keeping the focus in one place. For newer applications, such as SCCM 2012 and SCSM that are going all UIA, I have concerns, but that also applies to JFW and Window-Eyes too. For me, the lack of RDP is a big barrior, as I work out of a branch office and not our main datacenter. I don't think RDP is high on the NVDA road map, as NVDA seems more focused on home settings and not that many people use RDP at home. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh OHeiligh Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:47 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Greetings, Are many of you using NVDA for reasonably complicated administration work? For example, group policy, Active directory, Linux server, SCCM, SCOM, Backup Exec / Data protecter, San management, VSphere, Hyper-V, Anti Virus such as Trend OfficeScan etc? I'm not really interested in using the day to day applications like word, Outlook and all that. I've begun using it and I'm finding it is very powerful. I'd love remote desktop support but I'm sure they'll get to that eventually. If your using it for system administration would you mind telling me what applications your using it with and what problems you've encountered? Maybe tell me a bit about why you prefer it over Jaws, Window Eyes or Hal as I ? I might try to write up a page for www.blindsysadmins.com Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Troy Hergert

4:57 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Just wanted to share that I have tried NVDA on my 2003 server from an RDP session. Because I used a group policy to enable audio redirection for all domain computers including the server, just running NVDA on the server made the speech work quite responsively through my RDP session. Troy

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Andrew Hodgson

6:38 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Hi, Actually that works even better on 2k8 and 2k8 R2 - the sound will be a lot less compressed. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 08 December 2011 16:57 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Just wanted to share that I have tried NVDA on my 2003 server from an RDP session. Because I used a group policy to enable audio redirection for all domain computers including the server, just running NVDA on the server made the speech work quite responsively through my RDP session. Troy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Andrew Hodgson

6:38 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Hi, Actually that works even better on 2k8 and 2k8 R2 - the sound will be a lot less compressed. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 08 December 2011 16:57 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Just wanted to share that I have tried NVDA on my 2003 server from an RDP session. Because I used a group policy to enable audio redirection for all domain computers including the server, just running NVDA on the server made the speech work quite responsively through my RDP session. Troy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Ryan Shugart

10:49 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

That's cool. Unfortunately I don't think that would work well over a slow WAN link. An interesting side note, a friend and I last night were thinking it would be neat if someone came up with an open standard for redirecting speech over a RDP or ICA link. In otherwords, the Window-eyes or JAWS virtual channels, instead of being screen reader specific, would be standardized so you could use any screen reader as a client and have your screen reader of choice on the server. In fact, you could even have software that's just a remote speech virtual channel receiver, making it possible to use screen readers on thin clients and the like. I don't think FS or GW would be very interested in such an open standard, but its an interesting thought exercise. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:57 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Just wanted to share that I have tried NVDA on my 2003 server from an RDP session. Because I used a group policy to enable audio redirection for all domain computers including the server, just running NVDA on the server made the speech work quite responsively through my RDP session. Troy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Ryan Shugart

10:49 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

That's cool. Unfortunately I don't think that would work well over a slow WAN link. An interesting side note, a friend and I last night were thinking it would be neat if someone came up with an open standard for redirecting speech over a RDP or ICA link. In otherwords, the Window-eyes or JAWS virtual channels, instead of being screen reader specific, would be standardized so you could use any screen reader as a client and have your screen reader of choice on the server. In fact, you could even have software that's just a remote speech virtual channel receiver, making it possible to use screen readers on thin clients and the like. I don't think FS or GW would be very interested in such an open standard, but its an interesting thought exercise. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:57 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Evolution of NVDA. Just wanted to share that I have tried NVDA on my 2003 server from an RDP session. Because I used a group policy to enable audio redirection for all domain computers including the server, just running NVDA on the server made the speech work quite responsively through my RDP session. Troy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Darragh OHeiligh

12:47 p.m.

New subject: Evolution of NVDA.

Greetings, Are many of you using NVDA for reasonably complicated administration work? For example, group policy, Active directory, Linux server, SCCM, SCOM, Backup Exec / Data protecter, San management, VSphere, Hyper-V, Anti Virus such as Trend OfficeScan etc? I'm not really interested in using the day to day applications like word, Outlook and all that. I've begun using it and I'm finding it is very powerful. I'd love remote desktop support but I'm sure they'll get to that eventually. If your using it for system administration would you mind telling me what applications your using it with and what problems you've encountered? Maybe tell me a bit about why you prefer it over Jaws, Window Eyes or Hal as I ? I might try to write up a page for www.blindsysadmins.com Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie

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Ben Mustill-Rose

6:27 p.m.

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech. My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart. Cheers, Ben. On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ben Mustill-Rose

6:27 p.m.

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech. My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart. Cheers, Ben. On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ibraam Wahib

10 Dec 10 Dec

10:25 a.m.

dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image? My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech. My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart. Cheers, Ben. On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ben Mustill-Rose

11:54 a.m.

Yes, see my last message. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

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hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ben Mustill-Rose

11:54 a.m.

Yes, see my last message. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

...
hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ibraam Wahib

12:44 p.m.

do you have instruction to do it? or all in program help. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image? Yes, see my last message. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

...
hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ibraam Wahib

8:22 p.m.

please, it run only under windows, how i make an image and restore it in dos mood. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image? Yes, see my last message. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

...
hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ben Mustill-Rose

8:45 p.m.

Hi, It looks like I was mistakened sorry, the only restore method that is supported outside of a normal os is win pe. Is slaving the drive not an option? Cheers, Ben. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

please, it run only under windows, how i make an image and restore it in dos mood. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

Yes, see my last message.

On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

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dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

...
hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ibraam Wahib

11 Dec 11 Dec

9 a.m.

hello is win-pe support audio? can i use nvda with it. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image? Hi, It looks like I was mistakened sorry, the only restore method that is supported outside of a normal os is win pe. Is slaving the drive not an option? Cheers, Ben. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

please, it run only under windows, how i make an image and restore it in dos mood. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

Yes, see my last message.

On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

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dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

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hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Ben Mustill-Rose

10 Dec 10 Dec

8:45 p.m.

Hi, It looks like I was mistakened sorry, the only restore method that is supported outside of a normal os is win pe. Is slaving the drive not an option? Cheers, Ben. On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

please, it run only under windows, how i make an image and restore it in dos mood. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

Yes, see my last message.

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dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

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hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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John G. Heim

12 Dec 12 Dec

2:58 p.m.

Can you put a disk image on a DVD? Even with compression, I wouldn't think it would fit. Personally, I have always approached the problem of restoring Windows by making it easy to reinstall from scratch. I keep all my data on a network drive so I can just do a fresh install any time I need to. There used to be an open source tool at http://unattended.sourceforge.net that allowed you to easily reinstall Windows XP and any additional programs you might need. Over years of using this tool, I got it to the point where I could boot from the installation CD and 40 minutes later it was like I never changed a thing. But it doesn't work for Windows 7. Right now, I'm working on a virtual machine approach. You can take a snapshot of a virtual machine and restore from the snapshot. I built a quad-core PC and put VMWare esxi on it. I need to learn how to use esxi for my job. But esxi does not support sound so I'm going to have to switch to something else eventually. Anyway, the point is that I don't have any advice in that direction as yet. If I were going to try the disk image approach , I think I'd start with grml. Boot into grml, connect to a network drive, use dd to take a disk image, compress it and save it to the network drive. Reverse the process for the restore. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

Yes, see my last message.

On 10/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

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dear: i will have OS only on C partition, need to take an image and put the image and its program on a boot DVD, to restore it easily without any help cause am allone always. thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

My understanding is that Drive ImageXml will be able to do this. You have to make a bootdisk to restore the image, but from what I've heard from people that have done it, its pretty much just an enter enter enter type process so you should be fine without speech.

My personal approach is to just put the drive in another machine where I have access to a full os and do the image like that which eliminates any guesswork that you would get when booting into an environment which doesn't have any speech; the disadvantage of course is that this method isn't that great for people who don't like taking stuff apart.

Cheers, Ben.

On 08/12/2011, Ibraam Wahib wrote:

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hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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John G. Heim

3:03 p.m.

Ibraam, Are you asking how to install Windows XP or how to make an image of an existing Windows disk? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibraam Wahib" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:40 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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Jackie McBride

4:43 p.m.

Ibrim, I still say your best bet is either thru Vinux or GRML. On 12/12/11, John G. Heim wrote:

Ibraam,

Are you asking how to install Windows XP or how to make an image of an existing Windows disk?

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4:43 p.m.

Ibrim, I still say your best bet is either thru Vinux or GRML. On 12/12/11, John G. Heim wrote:

Ibraam,

Are you asking how to install Windows XP or how to make an image of an existing Windows disk?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibraam Wahib" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:40 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ntfs partition image?

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hello friends please, need your quick advice what's the accessible way to make windows-xp image and install it without sighted assistant? partition is ntfs. thanks beero

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