Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well?
I am attempting to copy a data backup from a USB SATTA Caddy to a USB Caddy drive. Using Windows 7 and Windows Explorer the copy calculates the source size and targets free space then gives me a dialog with try Again and Cancel claiming there's not enough free space on the drive to perform the copy. I need to free up about 80GB or so on the target. There's no options for replace files whilst copying in this instance it seems. NB. The source is a few gig smaller than the target's overall directory and the targets volume has 146GB free. My next step was installed Windows Resource Kits Tools with the intention of using robocopy. The installer did warn me of known conflicts but I thought, push on and see. When i try and execute robocopy it generates a bunch of on-screen garbage and lands me back in the c:\program files\windows resource kits\tools directory. I don't want to delete the target because it has some newer files than the source. However, one way i could work round it is copy the target to the source, delete the target then copy the source to what was the target, it seems very long-winded and wil take probably an additional six hours because this is USB to USB, both powered and USB 2.0, but still will take a while. Any suggestions for an alternative? I could probably use rsync, but don't want to drag this out as I'd have to read-up on it's syntax as it's been a few years. Thanks, Barry. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3957 (20090324) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
What about doing it from the command line. Say something line
From the run command type "cmd" press enter "xcopy drive:\dirname drive:\dirname /d /I /s" and press enter. This will copy all of the files and directories from the source to the target but skip any files that are newer. HTH
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:19 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? I am attempting to copy a data backup from a USB SATTA Caddy to a USB Caddy drive. Using Windows 7 and Windows Explorer the copy calculates the source size and targets free space then gives me a dialog with try Again and Cancel claiming there's not enough free space on the drive to perform the copy. I need to free up about 80GB or so on the target. There's no options for replace files whilst copying in this instance it seems. NB. The source is a few gig smaller than the target's overall directory and the targets volume has 146GB free. My next step was installed Windows Resource Kits Tools with the intention of using robocopy. The installer did warn me of known conflicts but I thought, push on and see. When i try and execute robocopy it generates a bunch of on-screen garbage and lands me back in the c:\program files\windows resource kits\tools directory. I don't want to delete the target because it has some newer files than the source. However, one way i could work round it is copy the target to the source, delete the target then copy the source to what was the target, it seems very long-winded and wil take probably an additional six hours because this is USB to USB, both powered and USB 2.0, but still will take a while. Any suggestions for an alternative? I could probably use rsync, but don't want to drag this out as I'd have to read-up on it's syntax as it's been a few years. Thanks, Barry. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3957 (20090324) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Thanks for your suggestion. This looked like it was going to work. It got to about one third into the C artists and then crapped out claiming there was insufficient space to continue. It copied 85 new files, Target disc space is set now at Free space: 101,196,836,864 bytes 94.2 GB The source Free space: 24,441,307,136 bytes 22.7 GB The Targets directory location contains, 54,598 Files, 4,384 Folders Type: All of type File Folder Location: All in K:\Music\audio\music Size: 209 GB (224,953,480,640 bytes) Size on disk: 209 GB (225,060,098,048 bytes) The source contains 56,903 Files, 4,504 Folders Type: All of type File Folder Location: All in I:\Audio\music Size: 239 GB (257,634,779,800 bytes) Size on disk: 240 GB (257,746,194,432 bytes) Um, I'm not a wizard with my maths but... Huh? There's looking to me like there's probably about 50gig or so to kick about once the copy is finished and the other 2000 or so files are copied from the source to the target. Thanks for your suggestion though. I'm sure I'll be using that syntax again in future. Any other suggestions? Barry -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso Sent: 26 March 2009 12:11 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [SPAM-MED] Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? Importance: High What about doing it from the command line. Say something line
From the run command type "cmd" press enter "xcopy drive:\dirname drive:\dirname /d /I /s" and press enter. This will copy all of the files and directories from the source to the target but skip any files that are newer. HTH
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:19 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? I am attempting to copy a data backup from a USB SATTA Caddy to a USB Caddy drive. Using Windows 7 and Windows Explorer the copy calculates the source size and targets free space then gives me a dialog with try Again and Cancel claiming there's not enough free space on the drive to perform the copy. I need to free up about 80GB or so on the target. There's no options for replace files whilst copying in this instance it seems. NB. The source is a few gig smaller than the target's overall directory and the targets volume has 146GB free. My next step was installed Windows Resource Kits Tools with the intention of using robocopy. The installer did warn me of known conflicts but I thought, push on and see. When i try and execute robocopy it generates a bunch of on-screen garbage and lands me back in the c:\program files\windows resource kits\tools directory. I don't want to delete the target because it has some newer files than the source. However, one way i could work round it is copy the target to the source, delete the target then copy the source to what was the target, it seems very long-winded and wil take probably an additional six hours because this is USB to USB, both powered and USB 2.0, but still will take a while. Any suggestions for an alternative? I could probably use rsync, but don't want to drag this out as I'd have to read-up on it's syntax as it's been a few years. Thanks, Barry. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3957 (20090324) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3970 (20090327) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3971 (20090328) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3971 (20090328) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Hi, Have you taken this up on a Windows 7 beta newsgroup? There are a tonne of them on Connect. Other than this, how are you finding the beta? Is JFW working ok? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: 28 March 2009 08:19 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] [SPAM-MED] Re: Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? Hi, Thanks for your suggestion. This looked like it was going to work. It got to about one third into the C artists and then crapped out claiming there was insufficient space to continue. It copied 85 new files, Target disc space is set now at Free space: 101,196,836,864 bytes 94.2 GB The source Free space: 24,441,307,136 bytes 22.7 GB The Targets directory location contains, 54,598 Files, 4,384 Folders Type: All of type File Folder Location: All in K:\Music\audio\music Size: 209 GB (224,953,480,640 bytes) Size on disk: 209 GB (225,060,098,048 bytes) The source contains 56,903 Files, 4,504 Folders Type: All of type File Folder Location: All in I:\Audio\music Size: 239 GB (257,634,779,800 bytes) Size on disk: 240 GB (257,746,194,432 bytes) Um, I'm not a wizard with my maths but... Huh? There's looking to me like there's probably about 50gig or so to kick about once the copy is finished and the other 2000 or so files are copied from the source to the target. Thanks for your suggestion though. I'm sure I'll be using that syntax again in future. Any other suggestions? Barry -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso Sent: 26 March 2009 12:11 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [SPAM-MED] Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? Importance: High What about doing it from the command line. Say something line
From the run command type "cmd" press enter "xcopy drive:\dirname drive:\dirname /d /I /s" and press enter. This will copy all of the files and directories from the source to the target but skip any files that are newer. HTH
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:19 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? I am attempting to copy a data backup from a USB SATTA Caddy to a USB Caddy drive. Using Windows 7 and Windows Explorer the copy calculates the source size and targets free space then gives me a dialog with try Again and Cancel claiming there's not enough free space on the drive to perform the copy. I need to free up about 80GB or so on the target. There's no options for replace files whilst copying in this instance it seems. NB. The source is a few gig smaller than the target's overall directory and the targets volume has 146GB free. My next step was installed Windows Resource Kits Tools with the intention of using robocopy. The installer did warn me of known conflicts but I thought, push on and see. When i try and execute robocopy it generates a bunch of on-screen garbage and lands me back in the c:\program files\windows resource kits\tools directory. I don't want to delete the target because it has some newer files than the source. However, one way i could work round it is copy the target to the source, delete the target then copy the source to what was the target, it seems very long-winded and wil take probably an additional six hours because this is USB to USB, both powered and USB 2.0, but still will take a while. Any suggestions for an alternative? I could probably use rsync, but don't want to drag this out as I'd have to read-up on it's syntax as it's been a few years. Thanks, Barry. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3957 (20090324) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3970 (20090327) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3971 (20090328) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3971 (20090328) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Have you taken this up on a Windows 7 beta newsgroup? There are a tonne of them on Connect. Other than this, how are you finding the beta? Is JFW working ok? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: 28 March 2009 08:19 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] [SPAM-MED] Re: Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? Hi, Thanks for your suggestion. This looked like it was going to work. It got to about one third into the C artists and then crapped out claiming there was insufficient space to continue. It copied 85 new files, Target disc space is set now at Free space: 101,196,836,864 bytes 94.2 GB The source Free space: 24,441,307,136 bytes 22.7 GB The Targets directory location contains, 54,598 Files, 4,384 Folders Type: All of type File Folder Location: All in K:\Music\audio\music Size: 209 GB (224,953,480,640 bytes) Size on disk: 209 GB (225,060,098,048 bytes) The source contains 56,903 Files, 4,504 Folders Type: All of type File Folder Location: All in I:\Audio\music Size: 239 GB (257,634,779,800 bytes) Size on disk: 240 GB (257,746,194,432 bytes) Um, I'm not a wizard with my maths but... Huh? There's looking to me like there's probably about 50gig or so to kick about once the copy is finished and the other 2000 or so files are copied from the source to the target. Thanks for your suggestion though. I'm sure I'll be using that syntax again in future. Any other suggestions? Barry -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso Sent: 26 March 2009 12:11 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [SPAM-MED] Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? Importance: High What about doing it from the command line. Say something line
From the run command type "cmd" press enter "xcopy drive:\dirname drive:\dirname /d /I /s" and press enter. This will copy all of the files and directories from the source to the target but skip any files that are newer. HTH
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:19 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows 7 Copy Oddity-Possibly seen in Vista as well? I am attempting to copy a data backup from a USB SATTA Caddy to a USB Caddy drive. Using Windows 7 and Windows Explorer the copy calculates the source size and targets free space then gives me a dialog with try Again and Cancel claiming there's not enough free space on the drive to perform the copy. I need to free up about 80GB or so on the target. There's no options for replace files whilst copying in this instance it seems. NB. The source is a few gig smaller than the target's overall directory and the targets volume has 146GB free. My next step was installed Windows Resource Kits Tools with the intention of using robocopy. The installer did warn me of known conflicts but I thought, push on and see. When i try and execute robocopy it generates a bunch of on-screen garbage and lands me back in the c:\program files\windows resource kits\tools directory. I don't want to delete the target because it has some newer files than the source. However, one way i could work round it is copy the target to the source, delete the target then copy the source to what was the target, it seems very long-winded and wil take probably an additional six hours because this is USB to USB, both powered and USB 2.0, but still will take a while. Any suggestions for an alternative? I could probably use rsync, but don't want to drag this out as I'd have to read-up on it's syntax as it's been a few years. Thanks, Barry. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3957 (20090324) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3970 (20090327) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3971 (20090328) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3971 (20090328) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Check to see what format the drives are using. Are they NTFS? Or FAT32? FAT32 has a file size limit of 4GB. If it is NTFS, are the sector sizes the same, for example 512 bytes? The size of the allocation unit will calculate into the overall size of the drive, and how it can write files. What are the values for free space on each drive? Perhaps a chkdsk will find allocation issues? ~Joe
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