Hi, I'd love to be proven wrong, but i think you need jaws or another screen reader in both locations. Someone please prove me wrong i'd love to get remote control apps such as remote desktop and terminal services working. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:24 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Good morning list, Has anyone ever done remote control of a windows machine without having jaws or some other screen reader installed in both locations. I am looking to do it with jaws installed on only one pc. Thanks Rick _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Narrator works, and I've used it successfully. However, a fair warning, your responsiveness will be very laggy. If the link between the two machines is bad, I'd avoid this at all costs. If it's a good link and your needs are short term then this will work, otherwise you'll probably need to just have a screen reader on both ends. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:24 AM To: dave.mehler@gmail.com; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Hi, If you use remote sound pipe on RDP or another remote desktop that uses remote sound you could use Narator. System Access also provide a solution to this whereby it uses a version of SA at the other end, this works very well, but at a price. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 05 September 2009 16:06 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Hi, I'd love to be proven wrong, but i think you need jaws or another screen reader in both locations. Someone please prove me wrong i'd love to get remote control apps such as remote desktop and terminal services working. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:24 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Good morning list, Has anyone ever done remote control of a windows machine without having jaws or some other screen reader installed in both locations. I am looking to do it with jaws installed on only one pc. Thanks Rick _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

hello: how can I do this via narrator? and which remote application work will and give me accessible to machine? thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Hodgson To: dave.mehler@gmail.com ; Blind sysadmins list Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen readeronly inone location Hi, If you use remote sound pipe on RDP or another remote desktop that uses remote sound you could use Narator. System Access also provide a solution to this whereby it uses a version of SA at the other end, this works very well, but at a price. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 05 September 2009 16:06 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Hi, I'd love to be proven wrong, but i think you need jaws or another screen reader in both locations. Someone please prove me wrong i'd love to get remote control apps such as remote desktop and terminal services working. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:24 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Good morning list, Has anyone ever done remote control of a windows machine without having jaws or some other screen reader installed in both locations. I am looking to do it with jaws installed on only one pc. Thanks Rick _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Hi, This gives you the information: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc775863(WS.10).aspx As was stated here earlier, not for use over slow links or slow machines :). Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ibraam Wahib Sent: 05 September 2009 22:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen readeronly inone location hello: how can I do this via narrator? and which remote application work will and give me accessible to machine? thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Hodgson To: dave.mehler@gmail.com ; Blind sysadmins list Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen readeronly inone location Hi, If you use remote sound pipe on RDP or another remote desktop that uses remote sound you could use Narator. System Access also provide a solution to this whereby it uses a version of SA at the other end, this works very well, but at a price. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 05 September 2009 16:06 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Hi, I'd love to be proven wrong, but i think you need jaws or another screen reader in both locations. Someone please prove me wrong i'd love to get remote control apps such as remote desktop and terminal services working. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:24 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Good morning list, Has anyone ever done remote control of a windows machine without having jaws or some other screen reader installed in both locations. I am looking to do it with jaws installed on only one pc. Thanks Rick _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Darragh, Just taking a quick look a the situation, couldn't you do a inner join on these tables which would serve to merge the information, of course that would make the select a little more complicated but as long as the tables aren't huge it should be able to be done or do you think I am "barking up the wrong tree". Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:57 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Hello, I'm kind of hitting a mental block with an SQL statement. I think I'll be restricted to only uisng one statement to accomplish this goal. I have four pieces of information in four tables. I need to merge all this information into one report. This is for a call management system that I'm in the process of installing. the tables are incidents incident-assets assets asset types. Assets are assigned to a type. for example. all the gx 745's will be assigned to the workstation type. I need the tool to be able to report on the number of incidents per asset type. here's a really high overview of the colums in each table. assets id, name, model and type. asset types type-id type-name incidents incident id. incident-assets incident-id and asset-id so, I have the incident and the asset id in the same table. Sorry, this next bit is as much for my thought process as it is to be descriptive. If I used nested select statements, could I select * from incidents and order by incident_assets my problem is I need to get information out of two different tables to complete the output. In english, it would have to be select everything from incidents where the incident.id field was the same as the id field in the incident-assets table. we'd then need to count the incidents that had been assigned to each type. Finally, we'd assign the name to that type. If I can dump this information out in some format that I can throw into EXCEL I may be able to do something with it in terms of compiling it into a report. Sorry. that was really long winded but my brain is fried thinking about it. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Hay Greg, Unfortunately, I cant make any changes to the database. during upgrades of the software, a checksum is validated. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Members Service desk Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 4444 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie "Greg B." Sent by: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org 09/09/2009 23:03 Please respond to Blind sysadmins list To "'Blind sysadmins list'" cc Subject Re: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Darragh, Just taking a quick look a the situation, couldn't you do a inner join on these tables which would serve to merge the information, of course that would make the select a little more complicated but as long as the tables aren't huge it should be able to be done or do you think I am "barking up the wrong tree". Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:57 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Hello, I'm kind of hitting a mental block with an SQL statement. I think I'll be restricted to only uisng one statement to accomplish this goal. I have four pieces of information in four tables. I need to merge all this information into one report. This is for a call management system that I'm in the process of installing. the tables are incidents incident-assets assets asset types. Assets are assigned to a type. for example. all the gx 745's will be assigned to the workstation type. I need the tool to be able to report on the number of incidents per asset type. here's a really high overview of the colums in each table. assets id, name, model and type. asset types type-id type-name incidents incident id. incident-assets incident-id and asset-id so, I have the incident and the asset id in the same table. Sorry, this next bit is as much for my thought process as it is to be descriptive. If I used nested select statements, could I select * from incidents and order by incident_assets my problem is I need to get information out of two different tables to complete the output. In english, it would have to be select everything from incidents where the incident.id field was the same as the id field in the incident-assets table. we'd then need to count the incidents that had been assigned to each type. Finally, we'd assign the name to that type. If I can dump this information out in some format that I can throw into EXCEL I may be able to do something with it in terms of compiling it into a report. Sorry. that was really long winded but my brain is fried thinking about it. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Hi, What about using SQL views? Thanks. Andrew. Andrew Hodgson Senior Systems Administrator/Projects Engineer Direct Line Tel: 01432 852332 Email: andrew.hodgson@allpay.net Please do not print this email unless absolutely necessary. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Greg B. Sent: 10 September 2009 12:02 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Darragh, Since you cannot use a join then your nested selects are the way to go but remember if the tables get big the processing could slow down and another unfortunate problem is that maintenance could be very problematic. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:35 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: 'Blind sysadmins list'; blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Hay Greg, Unfortunately, I cant make any changes to the database. during upgrades of the software, a checksum is validated. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Members Service desk Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 4444 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie "Greg B." Sent by: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org 09/09/2009 23:03 Please respond to Blind sysadmins list To "'Blind sysadmins list'" cc Subject Re: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Darragh, Just taking a quick look a the situation, couldn't you do a inner join on these tables which would serve to merge the information, of course that would make the select a little more complicated but as long as the tables aren't huge it should be able to be done or do you think I am "barking up the wrong tree". Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:57 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] SQL statement. Hello, I'm kind of hitting a mental block with an SQL statement. I think I'll be restricted to only uisng one statement to accomplish this goal. I have four pieces of information in four tables. I need to merge all this information into one report. This is for a call management system that I'm in the process of installing. the tables are incidents incident-assets assets asset types. Assets are assigned to a type. for example. all the gx 745's will be assigned to the workstation type. I need the tool to be able to report on the number of incidents per asset type. here's a really high overview of the colums in each table. assets id, name, model and type. asset types type-id type-name incidents incident id. incident-assets incident-id and asset-id so, I have the incident and the asset id in the same table. Sorry, this next bit is as much for my thought process as it is to be descriptive. If I used nested select statements, could I select * from incidents and order by incident_assets my problem is I need to get information out of two different tables to complete the output. In english, it would have to be select everything from incidents where the incident.id field was the same as the id field in the incident-assets table. we'd then need to count the incidents that had been assigned to each type. Finally, we'd assign the name to that type. If I can dump this information out in some format that I can throw into EXCEL I may be able to do something with it in terms of compiling it into a report. 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Hi, If you use remote sound pipe on RDP or another remote desktop that uses remote sound you could use Narator. System Access also provide a solution to this whereby it uses a version of SA at the other end, this works very well, but at a price. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 05 September 2009 16:06 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Hi, I'd love to be proven wrong, but i think you need jaws or another screen reader in both locations. Someone please prove me wrong i'd love to get remote control apps such as remote desktop and terminal services working. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:24 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] remote control of pc with screen reader only inone location Good morning list, Has anyone ever done remote control of a windows machine without having jaws or some other screen reader installed in both locations. I am looking to do it with jaws installed on only one pc. Thanks Rick _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins