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Greg B.

15 Apr 2013 15 Apr '13

10:02 p.m.

Hello, I will be taking a computer security class in the fall. I am trying to do some research for the class and have come up with a couple of things that could present problems. They are nmap, Backtrack Linux and Orca. Does any one have experience with any of the above software packages? Greg B.

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John G. Heim

15 Apr 15 Apr

10:31 p.m.

Orca is the screen reader for the linux graphical user interface. It works pretty well. It's pretty much all I ever use. I sometimes still use voiceover but I do 99% of my work with orca. On 04/15/13 17:02, Greg B. wrote:

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Ben Mustill-Rose

10:42 p.m.

Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Ben Mustill-Rose

10:42 p.m.

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Greg B.

16 Apr 16 Apr

12:11 a.m.

Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Darragh OHeiligh

7:30 a.m.

Just agreeing with what others have already said. Orca will work very well in Gnome and to a large extent in the gnome terminal as well. For a lot of console work, i recommend speakup. Your best bet would be to get a distribution that has speakup already compiled into the kernel. That's still a tricky business. I have been working with Linux via PuTTY for over a year now. I don't remember when I actually used Gnome last. How are they getting on with the Orca project? I realise I'm asking a question on another persons thread here so feel free to provide a kicking as necessary. and / or respond off list if you prefer. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: "Greg B." To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" , Date: 16/04/2013 01:11 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Greg B.

8:38 a.m.

Thanks for all the help. I will work on this information and also I will pass this on to the instructor for the class when I do my early meet and greet with them. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh OHeiligh Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:30 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Just agreeing with what others have already said. Orca will work very well in Gnome and to a large extent in the gnome terminal as well. For a lot of console work, i recommend speakup. Your best bet would be to get a distribution that has speakup already compiled into the kernel. That's still a tricky business. I have been working with Linux via PuTTY for over a year now. I don't remember when I actually used Gnome last. How are they getting on with the Orca project? I realise I'm asking a question on another persons thread here so feel free to provide a kicking as necessary. and / or respond off list if you prefer. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: "Greg B." To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" , Date: 16/04/2013 01:11 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Andrew Hodgson

10:33 a.m.

Hi, Look at Kali Linux instead of Backtrack, Backtrack is now replaced by Kali Linux. Kali is based on Debian, if it uses the stock Debian kernel it should have Speakup as well - enable at the boot prompt. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh OHeiligh [Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie] Sent: 16 April 2013 08:30 To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Just agreeing with what others have already said. Orca will work very well in Gnome and to a large extent in the gnome terminal as well. For a lot of console work, i recommend speakup. Your best bet would be to get a distribution that has speakup already compiled into the kernel. That's still a tricky business. I have been working with Linux via PuTTY for over a year now. I don't remember when I actually used Gnome last. How are they getting on with the Orca project? I realise I'm asking a question on another persons thread here so feel free to provide a kicking as necessary. and / or respond off list if you prefer. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: "Greg B." To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" , Date: 16/04/2013 01:11 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Greg B.

1:14 p.m.

I will look into Kali Linux but the problem is the instructor for the class and what he wants to do with the information I will give him. Do you know if Kali Linux has the same set of tools that Backtrack Linux does? Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:34 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Look at Kali Linux instead of Backtrack, Backtrack is now replaced by Kali Linux. Kali is based on Debian, if it uses the stock Debian kernel it should have Speakup as well - enable at the boot prompt. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh OHeiligh [Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie] Sent: 16 April 2013 08:30 To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Just agreeing with what others have already said. Orca will work very well in Gnome and to a large extent in the gnome terminal as well. For a lot of console work, i recommend speakup. Your best bet would be to get a distribution that has speakup already compiled into the kernel. That's still a tricky business. I have been working with Linux via PuTTY for over a year now. I don't remember when I actually used Gnome last. How are they getting on with the Orca project? I realise I'm asking a question on another persons thread here so feel free to provide a kicking as necessary. and / or respond off list if you prefer. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: "Greg B." To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" , Date: 16/04/2013 01:11 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Andrew Hodgson

3:02 p.m.

Hi, Yep, Kali is developed by the same people and it is a replacement to Backtrack. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Greg B. [gbobo@woh.rr.com] Sent: 16 April 2013 14:14 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca I will look into Kali Linux but the problem is the instructor for the class and what he wants to do with the information I will give him. Do you know if Kali Linux has the same set of tools that Backtrack Linux does? Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:34 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Look at Kali Linux instead of Backtrack, Backtrack is now replaced by Kali Linux. Kali is based on Debian, if it uses the stock Debian kernel it should have Speakup as well - enable at the boot prompt. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh OHeiligh [Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie] Sent: 16 April 2013 08:30 To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Just agreeing with what others have already said. Orca will work very well in Gnome and to a large extent in the gnome terminal as well. For a lot of console work, i recommend speakup. Your best bet would be to get a distribution that has speakup already compiled into the kernel. That's still a tricky business. I have been working with Linux via PuTTY for over a year now. I don't remember when I actually used Gnome last. How are they getting on with the Orca project? I realise I'm asking a question on another persons thread here so feel free to provide a kicking as necessary. and / or respond off list if you prefer. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: "Greg B." To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" , Date: 16/04/2013 01:11 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Greg B.

11:31 p.m.

This sounds better and better. Thanks, Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:03 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Yep, Kali is developed by the same people and it is a replacement to Backtrack. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Greg B. [gbobo@woh.rr.com] Sent: 16 April 2013 14:14 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca I will look into Kali Linux but the problem is the instructor for the class and what he wants to do with the information I will give him. Do you know if Kali Linux has the same set of tools that Backtrack Linux does? Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:34 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Look at Kali Linux instead of Backtrack, Backtrack is now replaced by Kali Linux. Kali is based on Debian, if it uses the stock Debian kernel it should have Speakup as well - enable at the boot prompt. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh OHeiligh [Darragh.OHeiligh@Oireachtas.ie] Sent: 16 April 2013 08:30 To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Just agreeing with what others have already said. Orca will work very well in Gnome and to a large extent in the gnome terminal as well. For a lot of console work, i recommend speakup. Your best bet would be to get a distribution that has speakup already compiled into the kernel. That's still a tricky business. I have been working with Linux via PuTTY for over a year now. I don't remember when I actually used Gnome last. How are they getting on with the Orca project? I realise I'm asking a question on another persons thread here so feel free to provide a kicking as necessary. and / or respond off list if you prefer. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: "Greg B." To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" , Date: 16/04/2013 01:11 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" Thanks for the Nmap information. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Pretty sure you should be ok with nmap unless I'm missing something? I've used it on quite a few different platforms over the years; I think theres even an iOs port for those of us who are jailbroken. Cheers, Ben. On 4/15/13, John G. Heim wrote:

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Andrew Hodgson

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Andrew Hodgson

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Darragh OHeiligh

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Greg B.

15 Apr 15 Apr

10:44 p.m.

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Thanks for the information but I have another question. How does Orca do with a command line interface? Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:31 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Orca is the screen reader for the linux graphical user interface. It works pretty well. It's pretty much all I ever use. I sometimes still use voiceover but I do 99% of my work with orca. On 04/15/13 17:02, Greg B. wrote: packages?

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David Mehler

11:45 p.m.

Hi, Nmap won't present a problem, I've used it on many platforms. Orca, works with the graphical interface, but if your going commandline interface speakup is where you'll want to go. Hth Dave. On 4/15/13, Greg B. wrote:

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David Mehler

11:45 p.m.

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Greg B.

16 Apr 16 Apr

12:10 a.m.

Thanks for the information. I will check out Speakup. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:45 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Hi, Nmap won't present a problem, I've used it on many platforms. Orca, works with the graphical interface, but if your going commandline interface speakup is where you'll want to go. Hth Dave. On 4/15/13, Greg B. wrote:

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Sean Murphy

17 Apr 17 Apr

10:01 a.m.

What is Map and what do you use it for? Speakup can be used to access the CLI of Linux. Emacspeak is another solution. There is another screen reader which I don't remember. Brltty is the braille CLI program that allows you to use the CLI. Sean On 16/04/2013, at 9:45 AM, David Mehler wrote:

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Darragh OHeiligh

19 Apr 19 Apr

8:13 a.m.

Good morning, Can I install Kali linux using speech? I've downloaded the ISO but I haven't had a chance to install it yet. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: Sean Murphy To: Blind sysadmins list , Date: 17/04/2013 11:01 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" What is Map and what do you use it for? Speakup can be used to access the CLI of Linux. Emacspeak is another solution. There is another screen reader which I don't remember. Brltty is the braille CLI program that allows you to use the CLI. Sean On 16/04/2013, at 9:45 AM, David Mehler wrote:

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Darragh OHeiligh

8:13 a.m.

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Greg B.

8:50 a.m.

Darragh, I am in the same spot. I am trying to find a Kali package with Speakup as a part of it. I am installing Kali to a USB drive but I have had a few problems. When I get either problem solved, the Kali package or the install problems I will let you know. Greg B. Email: gbobo@woh.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh OHeiligh Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:13 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Good morning, Can I install Kali linux using speech? I've downloaded the ISO but I haven't had a chance to install it yet. Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Fujitsu Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas, Fredrick Building, South Fredrick Street, Dublin2 Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559 Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie From: Sean Murphy To: Blind sysadmins list , Date: 17/04/2013 11:01 Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Backtrack Linux and Orca Sent by: "Blind-sysadmins" What is Map and what do you use it for? Speakup can be used to access the CLI of Linux. Emacspeak is another solution. There is another screen reader which I don't remember. Brltty is the braille CLI program that allows you to use the CLI. Sean On 16/04/2013, at 9:45 AM, David Mehler wrote:

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