Accessing Microsoft 365 mail from Linux
What is currently my best and most screen reader accessible option for working with Microsoft 365-hosted mail (Exchange Online) when running Linux? I’ve enabled IMAP and SMTP access in the Exchange Online configuration. It’s my Microsoft 365 subscription, which I recently upgraded to include e-mail, Microsoft Teams, etc., and intended for professional/career-related use. However, and for good reasons, Microsoft now requires the use of OAuth 2.0 authorization for both IMAP and SMTP connections. My options so far appear to be as follows. Mozilla Thunderbird, which I’m already using with my Linux-hosted IMAP account. Unfortunately, authentication in Microsoft 365 is currently an open bug which is being actively worked on by Mozilla, introduced in the most recent Thunderbird release. I expect this is my best option, and I can afford to wait a while for them to resolve the bug. Evolution: not very accessible with a screen reader, as I recall. DavMail: This is another possibility. It essentially accesses Microsoft servers and makes mail, contacts and calendar available locally via their respective protocols (IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV/CardDAV). I don’t know how reliably it works with Microsoft’s current authentication and authorization scheme, though. The outlook.office365.com <http://outlook.office365.com/> Web interface: probably workable, but not ideal - I would prefer to have both of my mail accounts in the same client. Comments welcome.
Hi. Everyone I talk to on Linux uses the OWA but they have fully working eyes. Another option is this: https://github.com/simonrob/email-oauth2-proxy Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 31 January 2023 17:42 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Accessing Microsoft 365 mail from Linux What is currently my best and most screen reader accessible option for working with Microsoft 365-hosted mail (Exchange Online) when running Linux? I’ve enabled IMAP and SMTP access in the Exchange Online configuration. It’s my Microsoft 365 subscription, which I recently upgraded to include e-mail, Microsoft Teams, etc., and intended for professional/career-related use. However, and for good reasons, Microsoft now requires the use of OAuth 2.0 authorization for both IMAP and SMTP connections. My options so far appear to be as follows. Mozilla Thunderbird, which I’m already using with my Linux-hosted IMAP account. Unfortunately, authentication in Microsoft 365 is currently an open bug which is being actively worked on by Mozilla, introduced in the most recent Thunderbird release. I expect this is my best option, and I can afford to wait a while for them to resolve the bug. Evolution: not very accessible with a screen reader, as I recall. DavMail: This is another possibility. It essentially accesses Microsoft servers and makes mail, contacts and calendar available locally via their respective protocols (IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV/CardDAV). I don’t know how reliably it works with Microsoft’s current authentication and authorization scheme, though. The outlook.office365.com <http://outlook.office365.com/> Web interface: probably workable, but not ideal - I would prefer to have both of my mail accounts in the same client. Comments welcome. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Thank you - I'll investigate that project as a further option. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:31 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Accessing Microsoft 365 mail from Linux Hi. Everyone I talk to on Linux uses the OWA but they have fully working eyes. Another option is this: https://github.com/simonrob/email-oauth2-proxy Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 31 January 2023 17:42 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Accessing Microsoft 365 mail from Linux What is currently my best and most screen reader accessible option for working with Microsoft 365-hosted mail (Exchange Online) when running Linux? I’ve enabled IMAP and SMTP access in the Exchange Online configuration. It’s my Microsoft 365 subscription, which I recently upgraded to include e-mail, Microsoft Teams, etc., and intended for professional/career-related use. However, and for good reasons, Microsoft now requires the use of OAuth 2.0 authorization for both IMAP and SMTP connections. My options so far appear to be as follows. Mozilla Thunderbird, which I’m already using with my Linux-hosted IMAP account. Unfortunately, authentication in Microsoft 365 is currently an open bug which is being actively worked on by Mozilla, introduced in the most recent Thunderbird release. I expect this is my best option, and I can afford to wait a while for them to resolve the bug. Evolution: not very accessible with a screen reader, as I recall. DavMail: This is another possibility. It essentially accesses Microsoft servers and makes mail, contacts and calendar available locally via their respective protocols (IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV/CardDAV). I don’t know how reliably it works with Microsoft’s current authentication and authorization scheme, though. The outlook.office365.com <http://outlook.office365.com/> Web interface: probably workable, but not ideal - I would prefer to have both of my mail accounts in the same client. Comments welcome. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
I'm not sure I understand... I am sending this message via Thunderbird from an O365 account I have through my job. I also have an outlook.com personal account. No problems. There was a problem some time ago but unless I am misunderstanding your question, its been long since fixed. On 1/31/23 11:41, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
What is currently my best and most screen reader accessible option for working with Microsoft 365-hosted mail (Exchange Online) when running Linux? I’ve enabled IMAP and SMTP access in the Exchange Online configuration. It’s my Microsoft 365 subscription, which I recently upgraded to include e-mail, Microsoft Teams, etc., and intended for professional/career-related use. However, and for good reasons, Microsoft now requires the use of OAuth 2.0 authorization for both IMAP and SMTP connections. My options so far appear to be as follows. Mozilla Thunderbird, which I’m already using with my Linux-hosted IMAP account. Unfortunately, authentication in Microsoft 365 is currently an open bug which is being actively worked on by Mozilla, introduced in the most recent Thunderbird release. I expect this is my best option, and I can afford to wait a while for them to resolve the bug. Evolution: not very accessible with a screen reader, as I recall. DavMail: This is another possibility. It essentially accesses Microsoft servers and makes mail, contacts and calendar available locally via their respective protocols (IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV/CardDAV). I don’t know how reliably it works with Microsoft’s current authentication and authorization scheme, though. The outlook.office365.com <http://outlook.office365.com/> Web interface: probably workable, but not ideal - I would prefer to have both of my mail accounts in the same client. Comments welcome. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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Apparently, the problem is with Thunderbird 102.7.0, which Arch Linux (running on my machine) now has. We're awaiting the fix. So, if you haven't upgraded to 102.7 yet, and you want access to Microsoft 365 accounts, it would be prudent to skip that version. https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/01/important-message-for-microsoft-office-... -----Original Message----- From: John G. Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2023 11:43 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Accessing Microsoft 365 mail from Linux I'm not sure I understand... I am sending this message via Thunderbird from an O365 account I have through my job. I also have an outlook.com personal account. No problems. There was a problem some time ago but unless I am misunderstanding your question, its been long since fixed. On 1/31/23 11:41, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
What is currently my best and most screen reader accessible option for working with Microsoft 365-hosted mail (Exchange Online) when running Linux? I’ve enabled IMAP and SMTP access in the Exchange Online configuration. It’s my Microsoft 365 subscription, which I recently upgraded to include e-mail, Microsoft Teams, etc., and intended for professional/career-related use. However, and for good reasons, Microsoft now requires the use of OAuth 2.0 authorization for both IMAP and SMTP connections. My options so far appear to be as follows. Mozilla Thunderbird, which I’m already using with my Linux-hosted IMAP account. Unfortunately, authentication in Microsoft 365 is currently an open bug which is being actively worked on by Mozilla, introduced in the most recent Thunderbird release. I expect this is my best option, and I can afford to wait a while for them to resolve the bug. Evolution: not very accessible with a screen reader, as I recall. DavMail: This is another possibility. It essentially accesses Microsoft servers and makes mail, contacts and calendar available locally via their respective protocols (IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV/CardDAV). I don’t know how reliably it works with Microsoft’s current authentication and authorization scheme, though. The outlook.office365.com <http://outlook.office365.com/> Web interface: probably workable, but not ideal - I would prefer to have both of my mail accounts in the same client. Comments welcome. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
-- John .G. Heim jheim@math.wisc.edu
Update: Thunderbird 102.7.1 just reached the Arch Linux repository, and it appears to have solved the bug. It still took several attempts to get the configuration right, including manually editing the configuration file due to errors with outbound SMTP authentication. On 1/2/23 17:38, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
Apparently, the problem is with Thunderbird 102.7.0, which Arch Linux (running on my machine) now has. We're awaiting the fix. So, if you haven't upgraded to 102.7 yet, and you want access to Microsoft 365 accounts, it would be prudent to skip that version. https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/01/important-message-for-microsoft-office-...
-----Original Message----- From: John G. Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2023 11:43 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Accessing Microsoft 365 mail from Linux
I'm not sure I understand... I am sending this message via Thunderbird from an O365 account I have through my job. I also have an outlook.com personal account. No problems. There was a problem some time ago but unless I am misunderstanding your question, its been long since fixed.
On 1/31/23 11:41, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
What is currently my best and most screen reader accessible option for working with Microsoft 365-hosted mail (Exchange Online) when running Linux? I’ve enabled IMAP and SMTP access in the Exchange Online configuration. It’s my Microsoft 365 subscription, which I recently upgraded to include e-mail, Microsoft Teams, etc., and intended for professional/career-related use. However, and for good reasons, Microsoft now requires the use of OAuth 2.0 authorization for both IMAP and SMTP connections. My options so far appear to be as follows. Mozilla Thunderbird, which I’m already using with my Linux-hosted IMAP account. Unfortunately, authentication in Microsoft 365 is currently an open bug which is being actively worked on by Mozilla, introduced in the most recent Thunderbird release. I expect this is my best option, and I can afford to wait a while for them to resolve the bug. Evolution: not very accessible with a screen reader, as I recall. DavMail: This is another possibility. It essentially accesses Microsoft servers and makes mail, contacts and calendar available locally via their respective protocols (IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV/CardDAV). I don’t know how reliably it works with Microsoft’s current authentication and authorization scheme, though. The outlook.office365.com <http://outlook.office365.com/> Web interface: probably workable, but not ideal - I would prefer to have both of my mail accounts in the same client. Comments welcome. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org -- John .G. Heim jheim@math.wisc.edu
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