Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.) This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration. IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions. I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible. Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing.
Hello. I'd be interested but I have to ask, is this something you'd plan to maintain once you received your desired career path? Thank you. Rajiv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: "Samuel Barnes" <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2026 8:52:58 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.) This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration. IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions. I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible. Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi. There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.) This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration. IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions. I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible. Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi. I would argue that email is still the most convenient,. Yes we could switch to platforms like PHPBB or facebook, or even WhatsApp. But not everyone knows how to use those platforms. Professionals probably would, I suppose it would depend how easy you want to make the process in terms of people actually interacting. I personally find Facebook cumbersome no matter what platform I use it on, the same applies to online forums especially in cases where I'd quickly like a summary of posts on a page etc. Very best wishes, Mo. On 23/02/2026 10:38, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi, I agree completely with Mobeen here. The decentral model of email is pretty nice. Other stuff is server hosted. When the server goes down, the whole data and knowledge is gone as well. With email i can have a lokal copy of the ddata. Maybe the people don't konw this mailing list or other mailing lists. A hybrid solution might also be platforms like groups.io. There you have a mailing list but you can also use it like a forum. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mobeen Iqbal via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2026 11:44 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? Hi. I would argue that email is still the most convenient,. Yes we could switch to platforms like PHPBB or facebook, or even WhatsApp. But not everyone knows how to use those platforms. Professionals probably would, I suppose it would depend how easy you want to make the process in terms of people actually interacting. I personally find Facebook cumbersome no matter what platform I use it on, the same applies to online forums especially in cases where I'd quickly like a summary of posts on a page etc. Very best wishes, Mo. On 23/02/2026 10:38, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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Am I incorrect in thinking that mailing lists are also centralized? You mail the server and it reflects that email to other members. On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 7:44 AM Eigeldinger Simon via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
I agree completely with Mobeen here. The decentral model of email is pretty nice. Other stuff is server hosted. When the server goes down, the whole data and knowledge is gone as well. With email i can have a lokal copy of the ddata. Maybe the people don't konw this mailing list or other mailing lists.
A hybrid solution might also be platforms like groups.io. There you have a mailing list but you can also use it like a forum.
Greetings, Simon
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mobeen Iqbal via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2026 11:44 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
Hi.
I would argue that email is still the most convenient,. Yes we could switch to platforms like PHPBB or facebook, or even WhatsApp. But not everyone knows how to use those platforms. Professionals probably would, I suppose it would depend how easy you want to make the process in terms of people actually interacting. I personally find Facebook cumbersome no matter what platform I use it on, the same applies to online forums especially in cases where I'd quickly like a summary of posts on a page etc.
Very best wishes,
Mo.
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind
On 23/02/2026 10:38, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote: professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind
professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a
subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like
traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts,
something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing.
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Hi, Sorry, Yu are correct. I actually just wanted to say that you can have a local copy of the messages on your machine if you want to. Doing two things at the same time while writing messages is not a good idea. 😉 Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2026 15:20 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? Am I incorrect in thinking that mailing lists are also centralized? You mail the server and it reflects that email to other members. On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 7:44 AM Eigeldinger Simon via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
I agree completely with Mobeen here. The decentral model of email is pretty nice. Other stuff is server hosted. When the server goes down, the whole data and knowledge is gone as well. With email i can have a lokal copy of the ddata. Maybe the people don't konw this mailing list or other mailing lists.
A hybrid solution might also be platforms like groups.io. There you have a mailing list but you can also use it like a forum.
Greetings, Simon
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mobeen Iqbal via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Montag, 23. Februar 2026 11:44 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
Hi.
I would argue that email is still the most convenient,. Yes we could switch to platforms like PHPBB or facebook, or even WhatsApp. But not everyone knows how to use those platforms. Professionals probably would, I suppose it would depend how easy you want to make the process in terms of people actually interacting. I personally find Facebook cumbersome no matter what platform I use it on, the same applies to online forums especially in cases where I'd quickly like a summary of posts on a page etc.
Very best wishes,
Mo.
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind
On 23/02/2026 10:38, Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins wrote: professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind
professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind
professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a
subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like
traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts,
something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing.
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Mobeen Iqbal via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
I would argue that email is still the most convenient,. Yes we could switch to platforms like PHPBB or facebook, or even WhatsApp. But not everyone knows how to use those platforms.
As I recall, GNU Mailman 3 lets users interact entirely by email, or via a Web interface. Discourse has an email option, but when last I investigated, you had to subscribe to the entire forum - there was no means of subscribing just to a single subgroup. I think supporting email interaction is important. Some people have customized their email configuration to work efficiently with mailing lists, and requiring them to use Web-based forum software would simply slow them down. These tend to be among the more advanced users whom you would want in the community, and I don't think age is the issue here - it's more a question of technical knowledge. If there were a better protocol, I would recommend it. NNTP isn't widely used nowadays. ActivityPub could be an option, as there is forum software which supports it, but I don't know how accessible it is either on the administrative or the user's side. A Matrix room could be an option as well, but I've had mixed experiences with the accessibility of the Matrix Elements client, and I haven't devoted time to investigating alternative clients. I do agree that it's useful to have a Web interface among the access options; I'm simply making the case that it shouldn't be the only option.
I don't know many new mailing lists being created. I definitely want to avoid mainstream social media, admittedly for ideological reasons. While it would be inarguably easier to get people on board and easier to manage, I want to encourage a more human-focused decentralized web. Discord seems to be sucking up all the help forums, and I want to avoid that. Discord is a terrible place for a repository of information. Servers are not indexed by search engines, the way conversations are organized, as a never ending torrent of undifferentiated posts, is hard to search, and what search functionality does exist isn't very good. You get people asking the same questions over and over because the one good answer the first time the question was asked has disappeared down the cataract of previous replies, never to be seen again. The fediverse would seem to be a good alternative, but most federated platforms mimic established players in the social media space and inherit many of the same problems. Mastodon is just Twitter, Piefed and Lemmy are Reddit clones, etc. These platforms are biased toward new content rather than old but still relevant content. NodeBB is technically able to talk to other services that use ActivityPub, so we could leverage that to get more people involved, but it's first and foremost a traditional forum, built for long-term discussion rather than casual browsing. Of course this can't go anywhere if NodeBB turns out not to be accessible. I personally navigate it fine, but part of the reason I want to do this is to see if other blind people can also navigate it. Here's a demo forum set up by the developers: https://try.nodebb.org/ And here's a random production instance: https://basenjiforums.com/ On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 4:38 AM Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi. I would personally say this mailing list has too small a sample rate to be conclusive. Most of the young blind professionals I hang out with are on Mastodon so I would probably start there in gaining views. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 13:07 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? I don't know many new mailing lists being created. I definitely want to avoid mainstream social media, admittedly for ideological reasons. While it would be inarguably easier to get people on board and easier to manage, I want to encourage a more human-focused decentralized web. Discord seems to be sucking up all the help forums, and I want to avoid that. Discord is a terrible place for a repository of information. Servers are not indexed by search engines, the way conversations are organized, as a never ending torrent of undifferentiated posts, is hard to search, and what search functionality does exist isn't very good. You get people asking the same questions over and over because the one good answer the first time the question was asked has disappeared down the cataract of previous replies, never to be seen again. The fediverse would seem to be a good alternative, but most federated platforms mimic established players in the social media space and inherit many of the same problems. Mastodon is just Twitter, Piefed and Lemmy are Reddit clones, etc. These platforms are biased toward new content rather than old but still relevant content. NodeBB is technically able to talk to other services that use ActivityPub, so we could leverage that to get more people involved, but it's first and foremost a traditional forum, built for long-term discussion rather than casual browsing. Of course this can't go anywhere if NodeBB turns out not to be accessible. I personally navigate it fine, but part of the reason I want to do this is to see if other blind people can also navigate it. Here's a demo forum set up by the developers: https://try.nodebb.org/ And here's a random production instance: https://basenjiforums.com/ On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 4:38 AM Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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How about a sub Reddit? Granted concerns about using mainstream social media. Facebook and or WHatsapp would be a terrible idea for various reasons IMO. Not least being able to effectively search and copy information. A dedicated site with accessible forum software would be great but then you're looking at more overheads, time, money and what happens when the administrator wants to stop paying or give it up. Regards Chris Turner -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 10:38 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? Hi. There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.) This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration. IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions. I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible. Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
The overhead is part of the point. In addition to the stated purpose of being a hub for blind professionals, this is supposed to act as a portfolio that I can show to potential employers. If you'll forgive my bluntness, most people don't think we can wipe our own butts, let alone manage IT infrastructure. I build the system, design the network, host the services, manage backups, all that stuff. As for why not a subreddit, I also address this in my first post. I don't like centralized social media, and the decentralized platforms that seek to replace them still ape their format, which quickly sweeps old content away no matter how relevant and topical it is. That's why I'm aiming for a forum rather than something like Lemmy or Piefed. On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 7:33 AM Chris Turner via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
How about a sub Reddit? Granted concerns about using mainstream social media. Facebook and or WHatsapp would be a terrible idea for various reasons IMO. Not least being able to effectively search and copy information.
A dedicated site with accessible forum software would be great but then you're looking at more overheads, time, money and what happens when the administrator wants to stop paying or give it up.
Regards
Chris Turner -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 10:38 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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One time I went to a job interview and when they called my name, I stood up and the woman who was supposed to interview me flat out refused to go ahead with the interview. "Blind people can't use computers," she said. After that I started bringing along a laptop so I could show the web servers and web apps I was responsible for. Anyway, I think if you want to do this you should just go ahead. Just be aware that it is going to be next to impossible to get buy-in from the blindIT professional community. You are almost certainly going to have to do everything yourself. One of the groups that tried something like this in the past got some buy-in by having an IT Professional Of the Month thing. It wasn't really an award. They just picked someone to talk about every month and did a profile of them. At least those people were engaged for a month. It's a win-win because the honoree can put on his resume that he was the IT Professional Of the Month and your web site gets some attention. I was part of a group that put something like this together maybe 15 or 20 years ago. We did it for the same reasons you talk about. We got 501C3 status and everything. We raised over $10,000 in donations the first year. But even that group died out for lack of interest. Oh, we got a lot of suggestions. You should do this or you should do that. But nobody seemed to want to actually do anything. Having said that though, if you need any help, you can count on me. On 2/24/26 5:03 PM, Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins wrote:
The overhead is part of the point. In addition to the stated purpose of being a hub for blind professionals, this is supposed to act as a portfolio that I can show to potential employers. If you'll forgive my bluntness, most people don't think we can wipe our own butts, let alone manage IT infrastructure. I build the system, design the network, host the services, manage backups, all that stuff.
As for why not a subreddit, I also address this in my first post. I don't like centralized social media, and the decentralized platforms that seek to replace them still ape their format, which quickly sweeps old content away no matter how relevant and topical it is. That's why I'm aiming for a forum rather than something like Lemmy or Piefed.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 7:33 AM Chris Turner via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
How about a sub Reddit? Granted concerns about using mainstream social media. Facebook and or WHatsapp would be a terrible idea for various reasons IMO. Not least being able to effectively search and copy information.
A dedicated site with accessible forum software would be great but then you're looking at more overheads, time, money and what happens when the administrator wants to stop paying or give it up.
Regards
Chris Turner -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 10:38 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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Fair enough. I think I missed the original post or skim read it. If you're happy to set a forum up and run it, I'd certainly be interested. Having some static content, sticky threads or however implemented for quick starts, FAQs, would be useful to everyone. Particularly those new VI sys admins or those learning. Cheers Chris Turner. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 24 February 2026 23:04 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum? The overhead is part of the point. In addition to the stated purpose of being a hub for blind professionals, this is supposed to act as a portfolio that I can show to potential employers. If you'll forgive my bluntness, most people don't think we can wipe our own butts, let alone manage IT infrastructure. I build the system, design the network, host the services, manage backups, all that stuff. As for why not a subreddit, I also address this in my first post. I don't like centralized social media, and the decentralized platforms that seek to replace them still ape their format, which quickly sweeps old content away no matter how relevant and topical it is. That's why I'm aiming for a forum rather than something like Lemmy or Piefed. On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 7:33 AM Chris Turner via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
How about a sub Reddit? Granted concerns about using mainstream social media. Facebook and or WHatsapp would be a terrible idea for various reasons IMO. Not least being able to effectively search and copy information.
A dedicated site with accessible forum software would be great but then you're looking at more overheads, time, money and what happens when the administrator wants to stop paying or give it up.
Regards
Chris Turner -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 10:38 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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I haven't abandoned this idea, I'm still mulling over details. Email is a bear to set up, too. Moderation is also a big question. I'm sure many of us got into IT because we don't like dealing with people. Resolving conflicts isn't exactly my specialty. But good moderation can make or break a community. On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 4:23 AM Chris Turner via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Fair enough. I think I missed the original post or skim read it. If you're happy to set a forum up and run it, I'd certainly be interested. Having some static content, sticky threads or however implemented for quick starts, FAQs, would be useful to everyone. Particularly those new VI sys admins or those learning.
Cheers
Chris Turner.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 24 February 2026 23:04 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
The overhead is part of the point. In addition to the stated purpose of being a hub for blind professionals, this is supposed to act as a portfolio that I can show to potential employers. If you'll forgive my bluntness, most people don't think we can wipe our own butts, let alone manage IT infrastructure. I build the system, design the network, host the services, manage backups, all that stuff.
As for why not a subreddit, I also address this in my first post. I don't like centralized social media, and the decentralized platforms that seek to replace them still ape their format, which quickly sweeps old content away no matter how relevant and topical it is. That's why I'm aiming for a forum rather than something like Lemmy or Piefed.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 7:33 AM Chris Turner via Blind-sysadmins < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
How about a sub Reddit? Granted concerns about using mainstream social media. Facebook and or WHatsapp would be a terrible idea for various reasons IMO. Not least being able to effectively search and copy information.
A dedicated site with accessible forum software would be great but then you're looking at more overheads, time, money and what happens when the administrator wants to stop paying or give it up.
Regards
Chris Turner -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 10:38 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
Hi.
There have been a few attempts to do this before, most haven't gone anywhere. However I don't see that as a reason for not trying. I have often wondered what a successor to this mailing list would look like, as I realise it's a bit outdated now. I think even young blind professionals have moved away from email these days.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 23 February 2026 01:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes@gmail.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Would anyone be interested in a blind professionals forum?
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind or for blind people seeking employment outside the "blind employment ghetto" (you know, O&M instructor, VI or special ed teacher, government case worker, lawyer, musician, etc.)
This would host discussions about adaptive strategies for blind professionals in specialized fields, advocacy for blind people in the workforce, and just commiseration.
IT industry topics like those discussed on this mailing list would be a subset of these discussions.
I also have two ulterior motives for doing this. First, I really like traditional forums as a platform and think nodeBB is a promising successor to the venerable (and surprisingly still around) phpBB. I'd like to have other blind folks use it day to day and provide the devs with feedback on how to make it more accessible.
Second, as I mentioned in a previous email, all my certs are expiring next month, and I'm too exhausted to try to renew them. Adminning (and possibly self-hosting) this forum would serve as a personal portfolio of sorts, something I can show potential employers to demonstrate I know what the heck I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Moderation is also a big question. I'm sure many of us got into IT because we don't like dealing with people. Resolving conflicts isn't exactly my specialty. But good moderation can make or break a community.
Perhaps having a few volunteer moderators at the outset to spread the workload would help to solve that problem. I can't make a commitment at the moment.
Samuel Barnes via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
I'm thinking of spinning up an instance of nodeBB to serve as a forum for blind people working in fields not traditionally associated with the blind
This might be useful, though preferably not as a substitute for this mailing list. I do system administration on my own systems, but it isn't a field in which I'm seeking employment. It's valuable to have a forum in which to discuss the screen reader-accessibility of administrative tools without relating the conversation to anyone's career goals. Of course, I may well use system administration skills incidentally as part of my work, but it isn't my profession or career aspiration.
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