Hi all, I really want to try this, and I'd like to do it with as few eyes as possible. Has anyone gotten NVDA to work on server Core? If so, how? And is the audio service able to run on it? I can access it remotely through server manager and PSRemoting just fine, but it's that initial stuff that I might have some issues with. Thoughts and insights would be awesome. Thanks!
I have gotten JAWS to run on Server Core--Server 2012.
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I have gotten JAWS to run on Server Core--Server 2012.
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That's amazing. How did you do that? I'd assume then, if Jaws can run, then nvda should be able to as well.
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Hmm, been a long long time and not sure I remember all the steps.
In short, I think I did most of it remotely.
- used psexec from sysinternals to open a remote command prompt on the server--I'm sure you can do all of this with PowerShell
- Enable the auto service to start automatically with the SC.exe command. I think it was something like this: sc audiosrv start= auto (please notice the spacing in the start= parameter s it is important
- Then I think I ran the installation for JAWS since you can do it totally from a command prompt and without an UI
That is what I sort of remember.
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Hmm, been a long long time and not sure I remember all the steps.
In short, I think I did most of it remotely.
- used psexec from sysinternals to open a remote command prompt on the server--I'm sure you can do all of this with PowerShell
- Enable the auto service to start automatically with the SC.exe command. I think it was something like this: sc audiosrv start= auto (please notice the spacing in the start= parameter s it is important
- Then I think I ran the installation for JAWS since you can do it totally from a command prompt and without an UI
That is what I sort of remember.
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This is going to be interesting. I wonder if nvda has a silent mode? I've heard it doesn't actually work. I'll have to check about that.
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From: Timothy Spaulding
I don't think you can do this in 2016, but in 2012 and 2012R2 you could do a normal server install, get your screen reader up and running or even set up the networking for remote access, then run a powershell cmdlet that removed the GUI and left you with a server core installation. That's how I've done it. That being said, I'd recommend for 2016 figuring out how to do a scripted install of server core to get it to a point where you can launch remote powershell. I haven't done this, but I'd imagine this would be possible, and in the real world this would be the route you'd want to go. One of the advantages of a server core install would be to have a very light footprint, and have as little software that needs updating on the environment as possible, and this includes screen readers. So my challenge would be, can you do it without eyes completely remotely and get a setup going? I believe the answer is yes but am not 100% sure.
Ryan
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I don't think you can do this in 2016, but in 2012 and 2012R2 you could do a normal server install, get your screen reader up and running or even set up the networking for remote access, then run a powershell cmdlet that removed the GUI and left you with a server core installation. That's how I've done it. That being said, I'd recommend for 2016 figuring out how to do a scripted install of server core to get it to a point where you can launch remote powershell. I haven't done this, but I'd imagine this would be possible, and in the real world this would be the route you'd want to go. One of the advantages of a server core install would be to have a very light footprint, and have as little software that needs updating on the environment as possible, and this includes screen readers. So my challenge would be, can you do it without eyes completely remotely and get a setup going? I believe the answer is yes but am not 100% sure.
Ryan
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Hi,
I am impressed with JFW installation on Server Core. I really didn't think that was possible.
One of the goals of Server Core though is to minimise the amount of times you need to get into the RDP access, and for this reason I would seriously look at scripting as much as you can. We are obviously looking at Nano server, which is the next level down from Core, and that doesn't have RDP even.
Andrew.
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Hi,
I am impressed with JFW installation on Server Core. I really didn't think that was possible.
One of the goals of Server Core though is to minimise the amount of times you need to get into the RDP access, and for this reason I would seriously look at scripting as much as you can. We are obviously looking at Nano server, which is the next level down from Core, and that doesn't have RDP even.
Andrew.
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Surprises me too … My personal preference is of course NVDA, but I suppose I could work JAWS into the mix. Would kind of make for difficulties in our remote areas, though, considering this is just a bunch of us having fun and not a business environment. The other thing I’m not quite as familiar with is installing the OS accessibly. I know that Narrator works for installs, now, though how to tell whether the answer file you added actually took? (SCCM is coming, but God knows when.)
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Hi,
I am impressed with JFW installation on Server Core. I really didn't think that was possible.
One of the goals of Server Core though is to minimise the amount of times you need to get into the RDP access, and for this reason I would seriously look at scripting as much as you can. We are obviously looking at Nano server, which is the next level down from Core, and that doesn't have RDP even.
Andrew.
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