Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Barry Toner

21 Nov 2014 21 Nov '14

10:34 p.m.

Hi all, I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close. I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now. No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office. I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg! OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you! Cheers guys, Barry.

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Ryan Shugart

21 Nov 21 Nov

11:15 p.m.

Hi Barry: Unfortunately, there’s no really easy answer to this question, as there really is no one way to install applications on a server. It depends on the application, what it needs, etc. Some applications and server roles can be installed with Powershell remoting, others can be installed by being pushed to the server, etc. But without knowing more about the environment, unfortunately we just can’t give you any real advice. Honestly I’d be really nervous if I was supposed to manage a server they wouldn’t let me put a screen reader on. I’m going to get flogged here I know, but while there are remote administration tools, Powershell and the like, at the end of the day, that server is your responsibility and if it goes down you’re expected to recover it. If you can’t log into it to get what you need done, you’re out of luck, is that a position you want to be in? There are, again, exceptions, such as servers running Server Core and the like, but those are rather rare. So I’m sorry to say if they won’t let you load a screen reader on the server it probably won’t work. I’d try to find out what the fear is around loading a screen reader on the server and see if you can address that in any way, again, more information is really needed here. Where I work, we have Window-Eyes baked into our server images for both 2008R2 and 2012. Its set not to launch at the login screen or desktop, and when I login I have a hotkey I press to start it. This image is in use on all kinds of servers, ERP systems, domain controllers, even public facing web applications and has been in place for many years with no issues. This was done in case I need to backup for someone else, they don’t want the excuse of “I couldn’t manage this because there was no screen reader available” to be there, so problem easily solved. Ryan

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On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Barry Toner wrote:

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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Anatoliy Shudrya

23 Nov 23 Nov

8:32 p.m.

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice. Hi all, I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close. I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now. No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office. I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg! OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you! Cheers guys, Barry. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Ryan Shugart

24 Nov 24 Nov

5:35 a.m.

New subject: Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

If the screen reader supports access via RDP, which both JAWS and Window-Eyes do, you don’t need a sound card on the remote server. Your local machine will be generating the speech, the remote server will just be telling the local copy what to say. In general you can install some software via GPO, but only if the software is provided as a .MSI package or can be converted into one. In general server software is really complex, and usually is installed via RDP access to the server. Ryan

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On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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Anatoliy Shudrya

5:55 p.m.

New subject: Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hmm, interesting, never tried that route, never even knew that you can run JAWS or Window eyes on the remote server without sound card. I have remote access feature paid with my version of JAWS, but I always would need to install sound card and JAWS package on the server before remotely accessing it. Don't you need JAWS to be installed on the remote server in order to start it remotely with "remote access" feature in JAWS? Can you install JAWS without sound card on the server? Sorry, never new you can do such things. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:36 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice. If the screen reader supports access via RDP, which both JAWS and Window-Eyes do, you don’t need a sound card on the remote server. Your local machine will be generating the speech, the remote server will just be telling the local copy what to say. In general you can install some software via GPO, but only if the software is provided as a .MSI package or can be converted into one. In general server software is really complex, and usually is installed via RDP access to the server. Ryan

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On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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Andrew Hodgson

6:07 p.m.

New subject: Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi, Yes this is possible - JFW or WindowEyes can be installed without a soundcard so long as you know the key presses or can see enough to do it. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Anatoliy Shudrya Sent: 24 November 2014 17:56 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice. Hmm, interesting, never tried that route, never even knew that you can run JAWS or Window eyes on the remote server without sound card. I have remote access feature paid with my version of JAWS, but I always would need to install sound card and JAWS package on the server before remotely accessing it. Don't you need JAWS to be installed on the remote server in order to start it remotely with "remote access" feature in JAWS? Can you install JAWS without sound card on the server? Sorry, never new you can do such things. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:36 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice. If the screen reader supports access via RDP, which both JAWS and Window-Eyes do, you don’t need a sound card on the remote server. Your local machine will be generating the speech, the remote server will just be telling the local copy what to say. In general you can install some software via GPO, but only if the software is provided as a .MSI package or can be converted into one. In general server software is really complex, and usually is installed via RDP access to the server. Ryan

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On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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Andrew Hodgson

6:07 p.m.

New subject: Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

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On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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Ryan Shugart

25 Nov 25 Nov

2:25 a.m.

New subject: Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi: Yes, you can. I’m not sure as to the procedure since I don’t use JAWS but I know its supported. If you install JAWS on the server, then RDP to a server with JAWS from a client with the remote access feature, when you launch JAWS the server copy will see you’re accessing it through RDP and route the speech through to the client version of JAWS and it will be spoken through whatever synthesizer you have on the client. You won’t necessarily hear system sounds unless audio redirection is turned on in the RDP client, but speech redirection is different. Ryan

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On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

Hmm, interesting, never tried that route, never even knew that you can run JAWS or Window eyes on the remote server without sound card. I have remote access feature paid with my version of JAWS, but I always would need to install sound card and JAWS package on the server before remotely accessing it.

Don't you need JAWS to be installed on the remote server in order to start it remotely with "remote access" feature in JAWS? Can you install JAWS without sound card on the server?

Sorry, never new you can do such things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:36 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

If the screen reader supports access via RDP, which both JAWS and Window-Eyes do, you don’t need a sound card on the remote server. Your local machine will be generating the speech, the remote server will just be telling the local copy what to say. In general you can install some software via GPO, but only if the software is provided as a .MSI package or can be converted into one. In general server software is really complex, and usually is installed via RDP access to the server. Ryan

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On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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Thank you Ryan, I'll give it a try on the next server build. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:26 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice. Hi: Yes, you can. I’m not sure as to the procedure since I don’t use JAWS but I know its supported. If you install JAWS on the server, then RDP to a server with JAWS from a client with the remote access feature, when you launch JAWS the server copy will see you’re accessing it through RDP and route the speech through to the client version of JAWS and it will be spoken through whatever synthesizer you have on the client. You won’t necessarily hear system sounds unless audio redirection is turned on in the RDP client, but speech redirection is different. Ryan

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On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

Hmm, interesting, never tried that route, never even knew that you can run JAWS or Window eyes on the remote server without sound card. I have remote access feature paid with my version of JAWS, but I always would need to install sound card and JAWS package on the server before remotely accessing it.

Don't you need JAWS to be installed on the remote server in order to start it remotely with "remote access" feature in JAWS? Can you install JAWS without sound card on the server?

Sorry, never new you can do such things.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:36 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

If the screen reader supports access via RDP, which both JAWS and Window-Eyes do, you don’t need a sound card on the remote server. Your local machine will be generating the speech, the remote server will just be telling the local copy what to say. In general you can install some software via GPO, but only if the software is provided as a .MSI package or can be converted into one. In general server software is really complex, and usually is installed via RDP access to the server. Ryan

...
On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Anatoliy Shudrya wrote:

You can remote in, or via GPO either of those will work to install applications to the server, but the problem that most of the rack servers do not have sound cards installed. You'd definitely need physical access to attach like a USB sound card or PCIE sound card. I haven't heard of a screen reader that will work without sound card.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list (blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org)' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remotely installing applications onto Windows Servers and career advice.

Hi all,

I've a potential cracking, in fact life changing job coming up for a company. It's an FT100. Couldn't' come at a better time as my current 2yr contract is coming to a close.

I've passed my interview. I scored the highest out of everyone they interviewed. I have been explicitly been told this by HR. I spent 1hr:20mins on the phone with two Senior Tech Managers two weeks ago. They wanted to gage my current experience for themselves. I'm trying my best to keep the positive, upbeat attitude going. I want this job right? I don't want to allow it to enter my head, OK guys I'm open, I'm honest, let's go! There's a couple of things going on now.

No one for these entry level infrastructure roles have been hired yet, as far as I am aware. I keep being told there are 4 roles coming up. They interviewed a second time for this area, and there's a queue I'd imagine forming behind me! One person let slip that they are waiting for paperwork to be completed that is on a desk of someone who has been out of the office.

I had a phone call today from HR saying, there's one problem. The parent company refuses to allow a Screen Reader to be installed on their servers. And asked how would I install an application on a server with no screen reader. These are Windows Servers. 2008R2 and 2012. I've asked someone off list and they gave some suggestions, but also had concerns about no SR on a server. I'm getting tempted to say, after I go back to HR with ways I can do this, OK, I appreciate your position, let's take me on for a year, see what we can do and after that it it's not working out I can walk away and you don't' have a permanent member of staff if with all the red tape. However, give me the chance to prove to you I can work around barriers. I'll find a way to keep it positive and not begging. It's so frustrating because I'm walking a thin line here. I appreciate they want to make sure things are going to work, but they can't even tell me what the specifics of the roles are going to be, let alone what application they are talking about installing and if it's just installing. I'm talking to someone in HR who doesn't know tech, acg!

OK, can people please offer suggestions how I can install a program onto a remote server from a workstation? I've already heard PowerShell, and Group Policy. I'm not sure how I'd do this, as I don't' have a working knowledge of either of these technologies. I suspect at the level I'm going in at neither will the other candidates. I appreciate sometimes we need to be the best of the best and any skills I'll acquire by learning how to do this while more arduous than someone pointing and clicking on an RDP connection, but I need to start from somewhere. I'd also appreciate any advice on how to tread carefully here, I don't' want to blow my chances but equally I don't' want to be taken for a ride. Or despite passing their recruitment process be ton a old based ona hypothetical, we can't consider you!

Cheers guys, Barry.

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