Any one else finding the gear coming out of Juniper more interesting than Cisco lately or actually for a while? I'm working on a big migration from Cisco / Foundry to Juniper and the Junos side is so much more flexable. I like the whole BSD vibe on the Juniper gear. They have really good version control for example and you can tell that's all based on a subversion back end with a wrapper. Recovering a corrupted OS is all about mount_msdosfs /dev/das1, copy your image to the temp directory and then add / reboot, bam! It's very clean and familiar some how. I guess I like products that use Unix environments as their OS, Checkpoint on Solaris was another example. I also like the fact that a gigabit interface for example can pass a gigabit's worth of normal traffic instead of say 300 megabits like your average Cisco product. Anyone else having a similar experience? What are other vendors doing interesting things. How are the Juniper security products? I will say I do like the Cisco ASA 5500 series. The whole group construction and policy / tunnel phase 1 / 2 thing is clever. I'm not inspired by what Cisco is doing in routing and switching though. Any other vendors that should be considered?
Hi, We are looking at several venders for a network refresh. We will probably stay with Cisco because of the trained staff on-site (I am not one of the Cisco guys). To me I feel that the Cisco side is lagging behind the likes of HP (especially after the 3Com/H3C takeover) and the smaller guys who are doing more with UTM devices than what is being done with the ASA devices currently. Cisco seem to be doing a lot with the Nexus stuff and high speed fibre stuff, but the interesting services based switches are still the 6500 based devices. I use an ASA here at home currently, and if I was to have my time again I probably wouldn't buy it because of the lack of UTM on the lower models. I haven't really had much experience with hardware firewalls up until now though, my previous system using Iptables on CentOS until mid 2007 when I got the Cisco box. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 17 July 2010 23:25 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Juniper V. Cisco Any one else finding the gear coming out of Juniper more interesting than Cisco lately or actually for a while? I'm working on a big migration from Cisco / Foundry to Juniper and the Junos side is so much more flexable. I like the whole BSD vibe on the Juniper gear. They have really good version control for example and you can tell that's all based on a subversion back end with a wrapper. Recovering a corrupted OS is all about mount_msdosfs /dev/das1, copy your image to the temp directory and then add / reboot, bam! It's very clean and familiar some how. I guess I like products that use Unix environments as their OS, Checkpoint on Solaris was another example. I also like the fact that a gigabit interface for example can pass a gigabit's worth of normal traffic instead of say 300 megabits like your average Cisco product. Anyone else having a similar experience? What are other vendors doing interesting things. How are the Juniper security products? I will say I do like the Cisco ASA 5500 series. The whole group construction and policy / tunnel phase 1 / 2 thing is clever. I'm not inspired by what Cisco is doing in routing and switching though. Any other vendors that should be considered? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, We are looking at several venders for a network refresh. We will probably stay with Cisco because of the trained staff on-site (I am not one of the Cisco guys). To me I feel that the Cisco side is lagging behind the likes of HP (especially after the 3Com/H3C takeover) and the smaller guys who are doing more with UTM devices than what is being done with the ASA devices currently. Cisco seem to be doing a lot with the Nexus stuff and high speed fibre stuff, but the interesting services based switches are still the 6500 based devices. I use an ASA here at home currently, and if I was to have my time again I probably wouldn't buy it because of the lack of UTM on the lower models. I haven't really had much experience with hardware firewalls up until now though, my previous system using Iptables on CentOS until mid 2007 when I got the Cisco box. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 17 July 2010 23:25 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Juniper V. Cisco Any one else finding the gear coming out of Juniper more interesting than Cisco lately or actually for a while? I'm working on a big migration from Cisco / Foundry to Juniper and the Junos side is so much more flexable. I like the whole BSD vibe on the Juniper gear. They have really good version control for example and you can tell that's all based on a subversion back end with a wrapper. Recovering a corrupted OS is all about mount_msdosfs /dev/das1, copy your image to the temp directory and then add / reboot, bam! It's very clean and familiar some how. I guess I like products that use Unix environments as their OS, Checkpoint on Solaris was another example. I also like the fact that a gigabit interface for example can pass a gigabit's worth of normal traffic instead of say 300 megabits like your average Cisco product. Anyone else having a similar experience? What are other vendors doing interesting things. How are the Juniper security products? I will say I do like the Cisco ASA 5500 series. The whole group construction and policy / tunnel phase 1 / 2 thing is clever. I'm not inspired by what Cisco is doing in routing and switching though. Any other vendors that should be considered? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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