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Hi Jamie
ok thanks for the explanation, it is much clearer now.
Adrien
-----Original Message-----
From: Plextalk
[mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
Of Jamie Cuthbertson
Sent: 03 October 2012 14:42
To: 'Plextalk User Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
Adrian,
In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification
Plextalk have the
following products which are in circulation:
PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and
playback device
with CD and PCMCIA slot options.
PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD
and CF card
options
PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option.
PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options.
PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal
memory options.
Can also stream on line DAISY content.
Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD
and mini USB
options.
PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1,
PTR2 and PTP1)
More information on the current products at the following
website:
http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/
I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but
at least you get
the general idea.
Regards,
Jamie
From: Plextalk
[mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
Of Clifford Blackwell
Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14
To: Plextalk User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160(a)googlemail.com>
To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'"
<plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
> Hi
>
> I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is
> this, the 1 or 2?
>
> Adrien
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Plextalk
> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
Behalf
> Of Aidan Maher
> Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I
> love the
> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little
> faster, when
> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general
its
> not nice
> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why
don't
> they also
> give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
>
> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson
> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Hi William,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your
> mains power supply.
>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of
> the upgrade
>> process
>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part
> way through the
>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier
> version so it's
>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and
the
> one you are
>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their
version.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade
> to a US firmware
>> if
>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why
> not just try to
>> upgrade direct to the French version?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Plextalk
> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
Behalf
>> Of william lomas
>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38
>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>
>>
>>
>> jamie thanks for all this
>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd
> folder with the
>> bin
>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card
>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it?
>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again,
if
> i can't even get
>> one firmware to update how will the french?
>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of
the
> sd card
>>
>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson"
>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi William,
>>>
>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you
> don't hear the
>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device
> assumes that the
>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the
> heading. If you
>> have
>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or
> other things like a
>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the
> device to treat them
>> as
>>> separate phrases.
>>>
>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then
> these will be what
>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
>>>
>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for
> inserting the
>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player
> does not
>> recognise
>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase.
> Often people press
>> the
>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay
> is what often
>> causes
>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
>>>
>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases,
> when using the PRS,
>> by
>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be
> careful, however,
>> to
>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or
> intake of breath and
>>> not some of your proper audio.
>>>
>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself.
> Basically,
>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at
> the start of the
>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which
> includes the click.
>>>
>>> You also asked a few other questions:
>>>
>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can
> easily get around
>>> 8-10 hours of playing time.
>>>
>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features
> on the unit,
>>> like
>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to
> go. In my view,
>> this
>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is
> far easier and
>> more
>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use
> the PRS
>>> software.
>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and
> playback device but was
>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know
that
> many folk will
>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the
> PRS available for
>>> all the heavy editing work.
>>>
>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade
> files in a sub
>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2
> files and they
>> should
>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Plextalk
> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Aidan Maher
>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25
>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>
>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick
> it up, you can
>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that
> contain the click
>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I
> think that
>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic
> so close to
>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the
heading
> number,
>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the
> recording,
>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading
> marker, but when
>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading
> number as you move
>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections
> and frazes, no
>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you
> can stil here
>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I
> forgot the
>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can
> also announce
>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key
> wile recording,
>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can
> easily loacate
>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if
> you have a
>>> long list of sections and frazes.
>>>
>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and
> press the go to
>>> key
>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that
is
> inserted in to
>>> the
>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software
and
> move by section
>> i
>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher
> <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage
> for sure. We
>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are
> plans. Plextalk
>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates.
They
> like to do a
>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and
that
> is because of
>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american
> printinghouse
>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features
> and we have seen
>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work.
> I'm not sure
>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use
the
> prs software,
>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your
> suggestions are good
>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a
> dam long time
>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that
> one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked
> on?
>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us
a
> fortune and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> updates happen?
>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit?
>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have
> made to them.
>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player
> itself? such as move
>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly
should
> we wish to do
>> so?
>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on
a
> mobile phone so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part
of
> the player
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>> from recordings
>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the
> "click" as i move
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the
> go to button yet
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to
press
> spacebar for
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly
> about at plextalk)
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on
> the root of the
>>>>>> card,
>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the
> files to update
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses
>>>>>> WIll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Is the ptn1 stil available? I thought its replaced by the ptn2. Wel
that is what it looks like on the plextalk site.
On 03/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Adrian,
>
>
>
> In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification Plextalk have the
> following products which are in circulation:
>
>
>
> PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device
> with CD and PCMCIA slot options.
>
> PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and CF card
> options
>
> PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option.
>
> PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options.
>
> PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal memory options.
> Can also stream on line DAISY content.
>
> Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD and mini USB
> options.
>
> PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1, PTR2 and PTP1)
>
>
>
> More information on the current products at the following website:
>
>
>
> http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/
>
>
>
> I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but at least you
> get
> the general idea.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of Clifford Blackwell
> Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>
> The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160(a)googlemail.com>
> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is
>> this, the 1 or 2?
>>
>> Adrien
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Plextalk
>> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
>> Of Aidan Maher
>> Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10
>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>
>> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I
>> love the
>> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little
>> faster, when
>> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its
>> not nice
>> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't
>> they also
>> give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
>>
>> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson
>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Hi William,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your
>> mains power supply.
>>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of
>> the upgrade
>>> process
>>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part
>> way through the
>>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier
>> version so it's
>>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the
>> one you are
>>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade
>> to a US firmware
>>> if
>>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why
>> not just try to
>>> upgrade direct to the French version?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Plextalk
>> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
>>> Of william lomas
>>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38
>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jamie thanks for all this
>>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd
>> folder with the
>>> bin
>>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card
>>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it?
>>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if
>> i can't even get
>>> one firmware to update how will the french?
>>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the
>> sd card
>>>
>>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson"
>>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi William,
>>>>
>>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you
>> don't hear the
>>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device
>> assumes that the
>>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the
>> heading. If you
>>> have
>>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or
>> other things like a
>>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the
>> device to treat them
>>> as
>>>> separate phrases.
>>>>
>>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then
>> these will be what
>>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
>>>>
>>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for
>> inserting the
>>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player
>> does not
>>> recognise
>>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase.
>> Often people press
>>> the
>>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay
>> is what often
>>> causes
>>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
>>>>
>>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases,
>> when using the PRS,
>>> by
>>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be
>> careful, however,
>>> to
>>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or
>> intake of breath and
>>>> not some of your proper audio.
>>>>
>>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself.
>> Basically,
>>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at
>> the start of the
>>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which
>> includes the click.
>>>>
>>>> You also asked a few other questions:
>>>>
>>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can
>> easily get around
>>>> 8-10 hours of playing time.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features
>> on the unit,
>>>> like
>>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to
>> go. In my view,
>>> this
>>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is
>> far easier and
>>> more
>>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use
>> the PRS
>>>> software.
>>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and
>> playback device but was
>>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that
>> many folk will
>>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the
>> PRS available for
>>>> all the heavy editing work.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade
>> files in a sub
>>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2
>> files and they
>>> should
>>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Plextalk
>> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Aidan Maher
>>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25
>>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>>
>>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick
>> it up, you can
>>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that
>> contain the click
>>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I
>> think that
>>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic
>> so close to
>>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading
>> number,
>>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the
>> recording,
>>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading
>> marker, but when
>>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading
>> number as you move
>>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections
>> and frazes, no
>>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you
>> can stil here
>>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I
>> forgot the
>>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can
>> also announce
>>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key
>> wile recording,
>>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can
>> easily loacate
>>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if
>> you have a
>>>> long list of sections and frazes.
>>>>
>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and
>> press the go to
>>>> key
>>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is
>> inserted in to
>>>> the
>>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and
>> move by section
>>> i
>>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher
>> <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage
>> for sure. We
>>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are
>> plans. Plextalk
>>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They
>> like to do a
>>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that
>> is because of
>>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american
>> printinghouse
>>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features
>> and we have seen
>>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work.
>> I'm not sure
>>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the
>> prs software,
>>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your
>> suggestions are good
>>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a
>> dam long time
>>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that
>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked
>> on?
>>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a
>> fortune and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> updates happen?
>>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit?
>>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have
>> made to them.
>>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player
>> itself? such as move
>>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should
>> we wish to do
>>> so?
>>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a
>> mobile phone so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of
>> the player
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>> from recordings
>>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the
>> "click" as i move
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the
>> go to button yet
>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press
>> spacebar for
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly
>> about at plextalk)
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on
>> the root of the
>>>>>>> card,
>>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the
>> files to update
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses
>>>>>>> WIll
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Is the ptn1 stil available? I thought its replaced by the ptn2. Wel
that is what it looks like on the plextalk site.
On 03/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Adrian,
>
>
>
> In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification Plextalk have the
> following products which are in circulation:
>
>
>
> PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device
> with CD and PCMCIA slot options.
>
> PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and CF card
> options
>
> PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option.
>
> PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options.
>
> PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal memory options.
> Can also stream on line DAISY content.
>
> Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD and mini USB
> options.
>
> PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1, PTR2 and PTP1)
>
>
>
> More information on the current products at the following website:
>
>
>
> http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/
>
>
>
> I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but at least you
> get
> the general idea.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of Clifford Blackwell
> Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>
> The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160(a)googlemail.com>
> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is
>> this, the 1 or 2?
>>
>> Adrien
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Plextalk
>> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
>> Of Aidan Maher
>> Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10
>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>
>> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I
>> love the
>> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little
>> faster, when
>> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its
>> not nice
>> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't
>> they also
>> give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
>>
>> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson
>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Hi William,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your
>> mains power supply.
>>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of
>> the upgrade
>>> process
>>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part
>> way through the
>>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier
>> version so it's
>>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the
>> one you are
>>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade
>> to a US firmware
>>> if
>>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why
>> not just try to
>>> upgrade direct to the French version?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Plextalk
>> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
>>> Of william lomas
>>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38
>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jamie thanks for all this
>>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd
>> folder with the
>>> bin
>>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card
>>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it?
>>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if
>> i can't even get
>>> one firmware to update how will the french?
>>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the
>> sd card
>>>
>>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson"
>>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi William,
>>>>
>>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you
>> don't hear the
>>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device
>> assumes that the
>>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the
>> heading. If you
>>> have
>>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or
>> other things like a
>>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the
>> device to treat them
>>> as
>>>> separate phrases.
>>>>
>>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then
>> these will be what
>>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
>>>>
>>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for
>> inserting the
>>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player
>> does not
>>> recognise
>>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase.
>> Often people press
>>> the
>>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay
>> is what often
>>> causes
>>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
>>>>
>>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases,
>> when using the PRS,
>>> by
>>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be
>> careful, however,
>>> to
>>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or
>> intake of breath and
>>>> not some of your proper audio.
>>>>
>>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself.
>> Basically,
>>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at
>> the start of the
>>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which
>> includes the click.
>>>>
>>>> You also asked a few other questions:
>>>>
>>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can
>> easily get around
>>>> 8-10 hours of playing time.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features
>> on the unit,
>>>> like
>>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to
>> go. In my view,
>>> this
>>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is
>> far easier and
>>> more
>>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use
>> the PRS
>>>> software.
>>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and
>> playback device but was
>>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that
>> many folk will
>>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the
>> PRS available for
>>>> all the heavy editing work.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade
>> files in a sub
>>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2
>> files and they
>>> should
>>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Plextalk
>> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Aidan Maher
>>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25
>>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>>
>>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick
>> it up, you can
>>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that
>> contain the click
>>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I
>> think that
>>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic
>> so close to
>>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading
>> number,
>>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the
>> recording,
>>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading
>> marker, but when
>>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading
>> number as you move
>>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections
>> and frazes, no
>>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you
>> can stil here
>>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I
>> forgot the
>>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can
>> also announce
>>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key
>> wile recording,
>>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can
>> easily loacate
>>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if
>> you have a
>>>> long list of sections and frazes.
>>>>
>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and
>> press the go to
>>>> key
>>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is
>> inserted in to
>>>> the
>>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and
>> move by section
>>> i
>>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher
>> <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage
>> for sure. We
>>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are
>> plans. Plextalk
>>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They
>> like to do a
>>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that
>> is because of
>>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american
>> printinghouse
>>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features
>> and we have seen
>>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work.
>> I'm not sure
>>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the
>> prs software,
>>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your
>> suggestions are good
>>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a
>> dam long time
>>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that
>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked
>> on?
>>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a
>> fortune and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> updates happen?
>>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit?
>>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have
>> made to them.
>>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player
>> itself? such as move
>>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should
>> we wish to do
>>> so?
>>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a
>> mobile phone so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of
>> the player
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>> from recordings
>>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the
>> "click" as i move
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the
>> go to button yet
>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press
>> spacebar for
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly
>> about at plextalk)
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on
>> the root of the
>>>>>>> card,
>>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the
>> files to update
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses
>>>>>>> WIll
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Plextalk mailing list
>>>>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org
>>>>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the
ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when
you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice
that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also
give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi William,
>
>
>
> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
>
>
>
> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your mains power supply.
> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of the upgrade
> process
> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the
> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
>
>
>
> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's
> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are
> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
>
>
>
> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware
> if
> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to
> upgrade direct to the French version?
>
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of william lomas
> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>
> jamie thanks for all this
> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the
> bin
> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card
> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it?
> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get
> one firmware to update how will the french?
> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
>
> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson"
> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi William,
>>
>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the
>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the
>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you
> have
>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a
>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them
> as
>> separate phrases.
>>
>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what
>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
>>
>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the
>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not
> recognise
>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press
> the
>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often
> causes
>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
>>
>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS,
> by
>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however,
> to
>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and
>> not some of your proper audio.
>>
>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically,
>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the
>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click.
>>
>> You also asked a few other questions:
>>
>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around
>> 8-10 hours of playing time.
>>
>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit,
>> like
>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view,
> this
>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and
> more
>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS
>> software.
>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was
>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will
>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for
>> all the heavy editing work.
>>
>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub
>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they
> should
>> be in this folder and not in the root directory.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Aidan Maher
>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25
>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>
>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can
>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click
>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that
>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to
>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number,
>> because you here it only when you insert it into the recording,
>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when
>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move
>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no
>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here
>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the
>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce
>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording,
>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate
>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a
>> long list of sections and frazes.
>>
>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to
>> key
>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
>> the
>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section
> i
>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
>>>
>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We
>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk
>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a
>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of
>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse
>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen
>>>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure
>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software,
>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good
>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time
>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
>>>>
>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on?
>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and
>>>>> then
>>>>> no
>>>>> updates happen?
>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit?
>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them.
>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move
>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do
> so?
>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so
>>>>> that
>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player
>>>>> directly
>>>>> from recordings
>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move
>>>>> through
>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet
>>>>> i
>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for
>>>>> this?
>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk)
>>>>> when
>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the
>>>>> card,
>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update
>>>>> the
>>>>> voices?
>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses
>>>>> WIll
>>>>>
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Ed Lopez back here. It has ben a wile sense I ben on this list, it sounds like you may have a bad sell in the battery. I only use memory cards made by Sandisc. I get the hyer speed memory cards. That is, the memory on the cards has a more faster transfer rate. This also may save on battery life as well. I get about 7 to 8 hours on my PTP1 in recording and playing. Try giving the battery a good drain and charging it for a good 8 hours. If this doesn't help, I would get another battery.
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A very good point there.
On 02/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi Emma,
>
> I can't compare battery life as I don't have a Victor Stream but my PTP1
> gives a lot more than 3-4 hours of playing time (more like 8-10 hours I
> reckon). I also think you pay a premium for longer battery life on the
> Stream because the battery and the unit is considerably larger than the
> PTP1.
>
> I suppose all of these things boil down to balancing the conflicting
> issues.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jamie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of emma goodwin
> Sent: 02 October 2012 09:31
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] battery drain significatnly on ptp
>
> Yes, the victor stream battery is much better and can hold for much
> longer. I also notice that when I listen to alot of content on my
> device, the device drops significantly. You are absolutely right
> there. I am not sure if there is anything we can do about it though. I
> still can get a good 3 or 4 hours listening time out my device but it
> depends what you doing with it.
>
> On 10/2/12, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi i noted my battery drain drops like a stone as i play books on my ptp
>> i
>> think the victor stream battery is far more superior?
>> or will it take a few 4 hour charges to get it right?
>> surely a significant battery drain shouldn't be noted in playing normal
>> speed and wireless off?
>>
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A very good point there.
On 02/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi Emma,
>
> I can't compare battery life as I don't have a Victor Stream but my PTP1
> gives a lot more than 3-4 hours of playing time (more like 8-10 hours I
> reckon). I also think you pay a premium for longer battery life on the
> Stream because the battery and the unit is considerably larger than the
> PTP1.
>
> I suppose all of these things boil down to balancing the conflicting
> issues.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jamie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of emma goodwin
> Sent: 02 October 2012 09:31
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] battery drain significatnly on ptp
>
> Yes, the victor stream battery is much better and can hold for much
> longer. I also notice that when I listen to alot of content on my
> device, the device drops significantly. You are absolutely right
> there. I am not sure if there is anything we can do about it though. I
> still can get a good 3 or 4 hours listening time out my device but it
> depends what you doing with it.
>
> On 10/2/12, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi i noted my battery drain drops like a stone as i play books on my ptp
>> i
>> think the victor stream battery is far more superior?
>> or will it take a few 4 hour charges to get it right?
>> surely a significant battery drain shouldn't be noted in playing normal
>> speed and wireless off?
>>
>>
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Hi, yes, you rite, sorry I forgot about that it actually have guide
volume, I just were quickly trying to think of an example to give you
and ended up mentioning something that was already there. But I can
also on the other hand understand why the machine is a bit slow with
cd's, but they should make things faster wich don't depend on the
drive spinning, like when editing on a cf card, and when pressing the
volume up or down keys rapidly and move faster in the menu and so on.
No its maybe not a big thing, but I just notice how that was improved
on ptp1 and I no on ptn2 its stil a bit slow. But I love ptr2 and I
would use it alot even if they don't improve it at all. Thank you for
your thoughts.
On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi again Aidan,
>
>
>
> I guess you are quite right about the delay when jumping around within a
> title on CD - there can sometimes be quite a delay whilst the drive gets
> moving.
>
>
>
> Regarding the guide volume and speed. I think I'm right in saying that,
> whilst the guide speed isn't able to be adjusted, you can adjust the guide
> volume separate from the normal playback volume.
>
>
>
> If you hold down the Information key whilst pressing the Up or Down Volume
> keys, this should adjust the guide volume separate from the playback
> volume.
>
>
>
> You're right though, it would be quite nice to be able to speed up the
> guide
> voice whilst leaving the playback speed at a different speed.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of Aidan Maher
> Sent: 01 October 2012 16:10
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>
> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the
> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when
> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice
> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also
> give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
>
> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Hi William,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your mains power
>> supply.
>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of the upgrade
>> process
>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the
>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's
>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are
>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware
>> if
>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to
>> upgrade direct to the French version?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of william lomas
>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38
>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>
>>
>>
>> jamie thanks for all this
>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the
>> bin
>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card
>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it?
>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even
> get
>> one firmware to update how will the french?
>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
>>
>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson"
>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi William,
>>>
>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the
>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the
>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you
>> have
>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like
>>> a
>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them
>> as
>>> separate phrases.
>>>
>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be
>>> what
>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
>>>
>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the
>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not
>> recognise
>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press
>> the
>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often
>> causes
>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
>>>
>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the
>>> PRS,
>> by
>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however,
>> to
>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath
>>> and
>>> not some of your proper audio.
>>>
>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically,
>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the
>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the
>>> click.
>>>
>>> You also asked a few other questions:
>>>
>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around
>>> 8-10 hours of playing time.
>>>
>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit,
>>> like
>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view,
>> this
>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and
>> more
>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS
>>> software.
>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but
>>> was
>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will
>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available
>>> for
>>> all the heavy editing work.
>>>
>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub
>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they
>> should
>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Aidan Maher
>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25
>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>
>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can
>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click
>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that
>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to
>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number,
>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the recording,
>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when
>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move
>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no
>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here
>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the
>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce
>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording,
>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate
>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a
>>> long list of sections and frazes.
>>>
>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to
>>> key
>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
>>> the
>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by
>>>> section
>> i
>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We
>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk
>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a
>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of
>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse
>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen
>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure
>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software,
>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good
>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time
>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on?
>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> updates happen?
>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit?
>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them.
>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move
>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do
>> so?
>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>> from recordings
>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at
>>>>>> plextalk)
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the
>>>>>> card,
>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses
>>>>>> WIll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Hi, yes, you rite, sorry I forgot about that it actually have guide
volume, I just were quickly trying to think of an example to give you
and ended up mentioning something that was already there. But I can
also on the other hand understand why the machine is a bit slow with
cd's, but they should make things faster wich don't depend on the
drive spinning, like when editing on a cf card, and when pressing the
volume up or down keys rapidly and move faster in the menu and so on.
No its maybe not a big thing, but I just notice how that was improved
on ptp1 and I no on ptn2 its stil a bit slow. But I love ptr2 and I
would use it alot even if they don't improve it at all. Thank you for
your thoughts.
On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi again Aidan,
>
>
>
> I guess you are quite right about the delay when jumping around within a
> title on CD - there can sometimes be quite a delay whilst the drive gets
> moving.
>
>
>
> Regarding the guide volume and speed. I think I'm right in saying that,
> whilst the guide speed isn't able to be adjusted, you can adjust the guide
> volume separate from the normal playback volume.
>
>
>
> If you hold down the Information key whilst pressing the Up or Down Volume
> keys, this should adjust the guide volume separate from the playback
> volume.
>
>
>
> You're right though, it would be quite nice to be able to speed up the
> guide
> voice whilst leaving the playback speed at a different speed.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf
> Of Aidan Maher
> Sent: 01 October 2012 16:10
> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>
>
>
> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the
> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when
> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice
> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also
> give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
>
> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Hi William,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your mains power
>> supply.
>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of the upgrade
>> process
>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the
>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's
>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are
>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware
>> if
>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to
>> upgrade direct to the French version?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of william lomas
>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38
>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>
>>
>>
>> jamie thanks for all this
>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the
>> bin
>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card
>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it?
>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even
> get
>> one firmware to update how will the french?
>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
>>
>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson"
>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi William,
>>>
>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the
>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the
>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you
>> have
>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like
>>> a
>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them
>> as
>>> separate phrases.
>>>
>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be
>>> what
>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
>>>
>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the
>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not
>> recognise
>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press
>> the
>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often
>> causes
>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
>>>
>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the
>>> PRS,
>> by
>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however,
>> to
>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath
>>> and
>>> not some of your proper audio.
>>>
>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically,
>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the
>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the
>>> click.
>>>
>>> You also asked a few other questions:
>>>
>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around
>>> 8-10 hours of playing time.
>>>
>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit,
>>> like
>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view,
>> this
>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and
>> more
>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS
>>> software.
>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but
>>> was
>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will
>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available
>>> for
>>> all the heavy editing work.
>>>
>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub
>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they
>> should
>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Aidan Maher
>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25
>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
>>>
>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can
>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click
>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that
>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to
>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number,
>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the recording,
>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when
>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move
>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no
>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here
>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the
>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce
>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording,
>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate
>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a
>>> long list of sections and frazes.
>>>
>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to
>>> key
>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
>>> the
>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by
>>>> section
>> i
>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We
>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk
>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a
>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of
>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse
>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen
>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure
>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software,
>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good
>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time
>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on?
>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> updates happen?
>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit?
>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them.
>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move
>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do
>> so?
>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>> from recordings
>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at
>>>>>> plextalk)
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the
>>>>>> card,
>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> voices?
>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses
>>>>>> WIll
>>>>>>
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hi i noted my battery drain drops like a stone as i play books on my ptp i think the victor stream battery is far more superior?
or will it take a few 4 hour charges to get it right?
surely a significant battery drain shouldn't be noted in playing normal speed and wireless off?
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