Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also give it guide speed and guide volume for example? On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your mains power supply. I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of the upgrade process but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware if ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to upgrade direct to the French version?
Jamie
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
jamie thanks for all this yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the bin and dat file in it, on the root part of the card when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get one firmware to update how will the french? the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you have an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as separate phrases.
If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often causes the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, by tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and not some of your proper audio.
You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click.
You also asked a few other questions:
Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around 8-10 hours of playing time.
Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, this kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and more efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS software. To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for all the heavy editing work.
Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should be in this folder and not in the root directory.
Hope this helps,
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a long list of sections and frazes.
by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to key for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote: the
recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section i hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software, could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then no updates happen? how do others find the battery life on this unit? also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so that when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player directly from recordings 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move through sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for this? 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) when i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the card, why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update the voices? kind regards to all and I look forward to responses WIll
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Hi again Aidan, I guess you are quite right about the delay when jumping around within a title on CD - there can sometimes be quite a delay whilst the drive gets moving. Regarding the guide volume and speed. I think I'm right in saying that, whilst the guide speed isn't able to be adjusted, you can adjust the guide volume separate from the normal playback volume. If you hold down the Information key whilst pressing the Up or Down Volume keys, this should adjust the guide volume separate from the playback volume. You're right though, it would be quite nice to be able to speed up the guide voice whilst leaving the playback speed at a different speed. All the best, Jamie From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 01 October 2012 16:10 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also give it guide speed and guide volume for example? On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your mains power supply. I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of the upgrade process but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware if ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to upgrade direct to the French version?
Jamie
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
jamie thanks for all this yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the bin and dat file in it, on the root part of the card when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get one firmware to update how will the french? the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you have an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as separate phrases.
If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often causes the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, by tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and not some of your proper audio.
You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click.
You also asked a few other questions:
Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around 8-10 hours of playing time.
Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, this kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and more efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS software. To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for all the heavy editing work.
Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should be in this folder and not in the root directory.
Hope this helps,
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a long list of sections and frazes.
by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to key for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote: the
recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section i hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software, could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then no updates happen? how do others find the battery life on this unit? also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so that when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player directly from recordings 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move through sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for this? 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) when i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the card, why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update the voices? kind regards to all and I look forward to responses WIll
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Hi William,
I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your
I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of
process but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware if ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to upgrade direct to the French version?
Jamie
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
jamie thanks for all this yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the bin and dat file in it, on the root part of the card when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get one firmware to update how will the french? the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the first phrase of the section contains the audio of the
have
an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as separate phrases.
If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then
you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often causes the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, by tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and not some of your proper audio.
You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at
real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click.
You also asked a few other questions:
Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around 8-10 hours of playing time.
Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, this kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and more efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use
software. To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and
never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for all the heavy editing work.
Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should be in this folder and not in the root directory.
Hope this helps,
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I
ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a long list of sections and frazes.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
by the click i mean say if i am recording something and
for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
key the
recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section i hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We don't no when the next update will be but there are
are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They
few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of aph working with them, so we should thank the american
that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure about your click question, do you mean when you use the
could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then no updates happen? how do others find the battery life on this unit? also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so that when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of
directly from recordings 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move through sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for this? 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) when i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on
Hi I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is this, the 1 or 2? Adrien -----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also give it guide speed and guide volume for example? On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote: mains power supply. the upgrade heading. If you these will be what the start of the the PRS playback device but was think that press the go to plans. Plextalk like to do a printinghouse prs software, the player the root of the
card, why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update the voices? kind regards to all and I look forward to responses WIll
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The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@googlemail.com> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
Hi
I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is this, the 1 or 2?
Adrien
-----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
Hi William,
I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your
I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of
process but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware if ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to upgrade direct to the French version?
Jamie
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
jamie thanks for all this yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the bin and dat file in it, on the root part of the card when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get one firmware to update how will the french? the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the first phrase of the section contains the audio of the
have
an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as separate phrases.
If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then
you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often causes the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, by tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and not some of your proper audio.
You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at
real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click.
You also asked a few other questions:
Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around 8-10 hours of playing time.
Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, this kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and more efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use
software. To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and
never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for all the heavy editing work.
Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should be in this folder and not in the root directory.
Hope this helps,
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I
ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a long list of sections and frazes.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
by the click i mean say if i am recording something and
for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
key the
recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section i hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We don't no when the next update will be but there are
are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They
few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of aph working with them, so we should thank the american
that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure about your click question, do you mean when you use the
could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then no updates happen? how do others find the battery life on this unit? also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so that when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of
directly from recordings 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move through sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for this? 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) when i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on
On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote: mains power supply. the upgrade heading. If you these will be what the start of the the PRS playback device but was think that press the go to plans. Plextalk like to do a printinghouse prs software, the player the root of the
card, why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update the voices? kind regards to all and I look forward to responses WIll
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Adrian, In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification Plextalk have the following products which are in circulation: PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and PCMCIA slot options. PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and CF card options PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option. PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options. PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal memory options. Can also stream on line DAISY content. Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD and mini USB options. PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1, PTR2 and PTP1) More information on the current products at the following website: http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/ I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but at least you get the general idea. Regards, Jamie From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Clifford Blackwell Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@googlemail.com> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
Hi
I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is this, the 1 or 2?
Adrien
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Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also give it guide speed and guide volume for example?
Hi William,
I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one.
The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your
I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of
process but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess.
I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version.
I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware if ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to upgrade direct to the French version?
Jamie
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
jamie thanks for all this yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the bin and dat file in it, on the root part of the card when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get one firmware to update how will the french? the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card
On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi William,
In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the first phrase of the section contains the audio of the
have
an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as separate phrases.
If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then
you hear when you jump from heading to heading.
One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often causes the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound.
As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, by tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and not some of your proper audio.
You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at
real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click.
You also asked a few other questions:
Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around 8-10 hours of playing time.
Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, this kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and more efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use
software. To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and
never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for all the heavy editing work.
Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should be in this folder and not in the root directory.
Hope this helps,
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I
ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a long list of sections and frazes.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
by the click i mean say if i am recording something and
for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to
key the
recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section i hear the clicks but not the name of the heading
On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We don't no when the next update will be but there are
are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They
few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of aph working with them, so we should thank the american
that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure about your click question, do you mean when you use the
could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one.
On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then no updates happen? how do others find the battery life on this unit? also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so that when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of
directly from recordings 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move through sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for this? 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) when i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on
On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> wrote: mains power supply. the upgrade heading. If you these will be what the start of the the PRS playback device but was think that press the go to plans. Plextalk like to do a printinghouse prs software, the player the root of the
card, why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update the voices? kind regards to all and I look forward to responses WIll
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