Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hmm. Now that's puzzling. Okay here's another suggestion concerning this issue. Try backing up the file without the offensive word then delete the original file from your computer. Then recreate the file on your computer by putting the new file or files on your computer without the swear termonology and I think that might take care of the swear word issue for good. Pam In God we trust! He is my Resurrection forever! -----Original Message----- From: Peter Wilkins Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:49 AM To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED Hello Pam. I did delete the word and accompanying noises of me rewinding a tape, etc, which lasts about thirty seconds. I block marked it on the PTP, then deleted that heading, and on the card of that recording the offensive part is not there. However, when I copied the folder to a memory stick, using my computer, it reinstated the deletion. Peter _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk
Hi Pam and Peter and all, Actually, this is exactly what you would expect when using a Pocket to edit your recording. This is because, when you delete sections in the recording, it is simply marking sections of the audio which are not to be played. This action does not remove the original audio from the MP3 file. When you play the edited recording, the timing files (SMIL) tell the player to simply ignore the bits you have nominally deleted. As Andrew mentioned, if you want to properly remove the edits from the final MP3 file, you need to use the PRS software on your computer to run an Audio Export process which then matches your edited recording with the matching MP3 file. Once you do this, you can happily lift the resulting MP3 files out of the DAISY recording in the sure knowledge that the DAISY version and the individual MP3 files will match each other! Hope this helps. Jamie P.S. I would also highly recommend that you get to know how to use the PRS software in any case as it is much easier and quicker to do editing with it rather than on the Pocket itself. -----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Pam Bilton Sent: 30 December 2013 00:45 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED Hmm. Now that's puzzling. Okay here's another suggestion concerning this issue. Try backing up the file without the offensive word then delete the original file from your computer. Then recreate the file on your computer by putting the new file or files on your computer without the swear termonology and I think that might take care of the swear word issue for good. Pam In God we trust! He is my Resurrection forever! -----Original Message----- From: Peter Wilkins Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:49 AM To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED Hello Pam. I did delete the word and accompanying noises of me rewinding a tape, etc, which lasts about thirty seconds. I block marked it on the PTP, then deleted that heading, and on the card of that recording the offensive part is not there. However, when I copied the folder to a memory stick, using my computer, it reinstated the deletion. Peter _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk
Hi, Which PRS software does one need to add/download to the PC for most editing of files? Standard or PRO? And does it (or do they) work accessibly and in a usual way, in Windows? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hi Pam and Peter and all,
Actually, this is exactly what you would expect when using a Pocket to edit your recording. This is because, when you delete sections in the recording, it is simply marking sections of the audio which are not to be played. This action does not remove the original audio from the MP3 file. When you play the edited recording, the timing files (SMIL) tell the player to simply ignore the bits you have nominally deleted.
As Andrew mentioned, if you want to properly remove the edits from the final MP3 file, you need to use the PRS software on your computer to run an Audio Export process which then matches your edited recording with the matching MP3 file. Once you do this, you can happily lift the resulting MP3 files out of the DAISY recording in the sure knowledge that the DAISY version and the individual MP3 files will match each other!
Hope this helps.
Jamie
P.S. I would also highly recommend that you get to know how to use the PRS software in any case as it is much easier and quicker to do editing with it rather than on the Pocket itself.
-----Original Message-----
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Pam Bilton Sent: 30 December 2013 00:45 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hmm. Now that's puzzling. Okay here's another suggestion concerning this issue. Try backing up the file without the offensive word then delete the original file from your computer. Then recreate the file on your computer by
putting the new file or files on your computer without the swear termonology
and I think that might take care of the swear word issue for good.
Pam
In God we trust! He is my Resurrection forever!
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wilkins Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:49 AM To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hello Pam.
I did delete the word and accompanying noises of me rewinding a tape, etc, which lasts about thirty seconds. I block marked it on the PTP, then deleted that heading, and on the card of that recording the offensive part is not there. However, when I copied the folder to a memory stick, using my computer, it reinstated the deletion.
Peter
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Hello All, It is indeed with the PRS software and audio import that you can remove the deleted sections with the Pocket. When you edit with the device (Pocket or PTR1/2), the section is deleted when played in DAISY players. However, physically the deleted section stays on the media and therefore with computer or non-DAISY devices, the deleted content is played. In the PRS, (does not matter PRS standard or PRO) one can use from the Menu - Tool - Audio Import. PRS does have an accessible guidance (Option - Voice guidance on/off) to run you through it. If you don't have PRS software: you can download it from the website and install it: - if you need it only once: 30-day trial = http://www.plextalk.com/dl/prs/PRSPsetup2_05_02_00ET.zip - if you have a Pocket: http://www.plextalk.com/dl/prs/setup.exe when installing you need to connect the Pocket via USB, this is the license. (it is similar for PTR1/2) Kindly Regards, DAISY-support Marc Van der Aa Marc.vanderaa@DAISY-support.be Tel +32 478 616263 -----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:24 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED Hi, Which PRS software does one need to add/download to the PC for most editing of files? Standard or PRO? And does it (or do they) work accessibly and in a usual way, in Windows? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson@ntlworld.com> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hi Pam and Peter and all,
Actually, this is exactly what you would expect when using a Pocket to edit your recording. This is because, when you delete sections in the recording, it is simply marking sections of the audio which are not to be played. This action does not remove the original audio from the MP3 file. When you play the edited recording, the timing files (SMIL) tell the player to simply ignore the bits you have nominally deleted.
As Andrew mentioned, if you want to properly remove the edits from the final MP3 file, you need to use the PRS software on your computer to run an Audio Export process which then matches your edited recording with the matching MP3 file. Once you do this, you can happily lift the resulting MP3 files out of the DAISY recording in the sure knowledge that the DAISY version and the individual MP3 files will match each other!
Hope this helps.
Jamie
P.S. I would also highly recommend that you get to know how to use the PRS software in any case as it is much easier and quicker to do editing with it rather than on the Pocket itself.
-----Original Message-----
From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Pam Bilton Sent: 30 December 2013 00:45 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hmm. Now that's puzzling. Okay here's another suggestion concerning this issue. Try backing up the file without the offensive word then delete the original file from your computer. Then recreate the file on your computer by
putting the new file or files on your computer without the swear termonology
and I think that might take care of the swear word issue for good.
Pam
In God we trust! He is my Resurrection forever!
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wilkins Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:49 AM To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] EXPLETIVE NOT DELETED
Hello Pam.
I did delete the word and accompanying noises of me rewinding a tape, etc, which lasts about thirty seconds. I block marked it on the PTP, then deleted that heading, and on the card of that recording the offensive part is not there. However, when I copied the folder to a memory stick, using my computer, it reinstated the deletion.
Peter
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