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Accessible project management tools.
by Darragh Ó Héiligh 29 Aug '19

29 Aug '19

Hello, I'm looking for a project management tool and I'm hoping someone here might have a suggestion. MS Project isn't a viable option at the moment. Required features: * Add contributors from within and outside this organization. * Standard fields such as task name, dependency, assigned to, start date, end date, total time, complete. * Add notes to tasks. * Highlight tasks assigned to the user. * Must be fully accessible. * Preferably web based. Any ideas? Thanks Darragh

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Re: Password managers
by Eigeldinger Simon 27 Aug '19

27 Aug '19

Normally it should work. Though it might be getting some conflicts when multiple people try to save the file. But that's a windows problem in general i guess. There is also an android app that seems to be pretty accessible. so you could drop the database on dropbox or google drive and might access it from there. though i don't know if that would work. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com> Gesendet: Montag, 26. August 2019 16:48 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Password managers Thanks, that's good to know. I didn't know that it handled that correctly. Chris On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 02:43:50PM +0000, Eigeldinger Simon wrote: > Hi, > > We are using that on multiple pcs accessing the same file. > Seems to work fine over here. > > Greetings, > Simon > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en > > Simon Eigeldinger > Informatik > Nebengeb?ude 1, OG1 > > Stadt Hohenems > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Stra?e 4 > 6845 Hohenems > T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | > www.hohenems.at > > Diese Nachricht und allf?llige angeh?ngte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur f?r den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com> > Gesendet: Montag, 26. August 2019 16:33 > An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Password managers > > I've had good success with KeePass 2, which stores its data in a > single file and has no cloud dependencies. As far as I know this does > not support multiple users accessing one store. > > I've also had good success with > 1Password which has local and cloud options. This does have a version > that allows multiple people to access one store. > > Chris > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:54:06AM +0000, Troy Hergert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am looking into password managers and wonder if anyone has found 1 to be accessible. I am trying out Dashlane because we have free licenses through our cyber insurance but it does not seem to be accessible. > > > > Thanks. > > ### > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Password managers
by Eigeldinger Simon 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Hi, We are using that on multiple pcs accessing the same file. Seems to work fine over here. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com> Gesendet: Montag, 26. August 2019 16:33 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Password managers I've had good success with KeePass 2, which stores its data in a single file and has no cloud dependencies. As far as I know this does not support multiple users accessing one store. I've also had good success with 1Password which has local and cloud options. This does have a version that allows multiple people to access one store. Chris On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:54:06AM +0000, Troy Hergert wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking into password managers and wonder if anyone has found 1 to be accessible. I am trying out Dashlane because we have free licenses through our cyber insurance but it does not seem to be accessible. > > Thanks. > ### > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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W2k19 no sound with screen reader and sound blaster
by Anatoliy Shudrya 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Hello Everyone, I am building ProLiant DL server with Windows server 2019, desktop experience setup. Everything went good so far until I started installing screen reader software. I have installed sound blaster sound card into the server, installed drivers and can hear windows sounds when working in desktop, but when screen reader software installed such JAWS or NVDA, there is no screen reader talking. Both screen readers installed but do not work with Sound blaster Audigy FX. Screen readers work with different portable USB sound card. Any ideas what am I missing? Audio service should be on as I hear desktop sounds no problem. Anatoliy

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Password managers
by Troy Hergert 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Hi, I am looking into password managers and wonder if anyone has found 1 to be accessible. I am trying out Dashlane because we have free licenses through our cyber insurance but it does not seem to be accessible. Thanks. ###

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Re: Password managers
by Eigeldinger Simon 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

Hi Troy, We are using KeePass 2. Works fine. The database sits on a share, the software is installed on each computer we need it on. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Troy Hergert <thergert(a)vision-forward.org> Gesendet: Montag, 26. August 2019 13:54 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Password managers Hi, I am looking into password managers and wonder if anyone has found 1 to be accessible. I am trying out Dashlane because we have free licenses through our cyber insurance but it does not seem to be accessible. Thanks. ### _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Affirmative action forms
by Samuel Barnes 26 Aug '19

26 Aug '19

When filling out job applications I often come across affirmative action or diversity forms that you must fill out in order to complete the application. These include sections relating to disability. The dropdown menus usually include an "I decline to answer" option, but you can't just leave it blank. I feel like this is forcing me to shoot myself in the foot in terms of my chances of getting an interview. Here's why: If I explicitly indicate that I have a disability, they won't consider me. Yeah yeah I know the standard response: "But discrimination is illegal, and they're incentivized to hire disabled people." There's zero chance of me proving I wasn't considered due to my disability vs any other reasons a candidate is filtered out. As for incentives. If they're going to hire a disabled person, they'll hire a book keeper in a wheelchair or something else where the disability has absolutely no effect on how the person does their job. If I say that I don't have a disability than I've lied on the job application, and it'll be obvious when I walk into the interview with a dog. If I say "I decline to answer" (this isn't the same as leaving the field blank, you usually can't continue until all fields are filled.) then I feel like not only will they know I have a disability, but I have one that I want to hide from potential employers. No able bodied person is going to decline to answer the question. There's no downside for them to say they don't have a disability. I've had four interviews in the last two months. Two of them went very badly. One was for a night shift at an NOC where the guy flat out told me I couldn't do the job. The other one crashed and burned because they wanted someone with a drivers license. (that's a frustratingly common requirement for these MSP and K-12 school jobs). Another interview was super short. They asked me a few boilerplate tech questions that anyone with an A+ could answer, and that was pretty much it. I don't think it was even 15 minutes. Sorry this turned into kind of a rant, but I wanted your opinion on these affirmative action forms. Am I crazy for thinking this?

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Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA
by Billy Irwin 24 Aug '19

24 Aug '19

Hi All, I have an issue on multiple PC's where when I login to the Mikrotiks or UBNT equipment, it freezes the browser because the interface tables are dynamically updating and the screen readers can't seem to handle it. Do you have any suggestions besides doing this all in SSH? Thanks, Billy

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Re: Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA
by Eigeldinger Simon 19 Aug '19

19 Aug '19

Hi, Yes i can confirm this sluggishness. NVDA 2019.2, Router OS 6.39.1. I don't know if that refreshing can be turned off in the settings of the router somehow. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Billy Irwin <billy.irwin(a)outlook.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2019 18:46 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA Hi, You will have to have a network configured with a couple of devices on the device. After loggin into it, go through the config tree and click on Interfaces. This is where it will become an issue. Sometimes after the devices are setup... after login, it will automatically put you in the interfaces page which keeps you from getting to anywhere else because it freezes. Thanks, Billy -----Original Message----- From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:18 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA Hi, In our office we have a few mikrotik products running RouterOS. I could do some tests if you want on Monday. I am using NVDA there. Just tell me how you did it so i can reproduce. Greetings, Simon Am 14.08.2019 um 18:13 schrieb vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca: > Hello Billy > > Unfortunately, I have no idea how to temporarily suspend a webpage with NVDA. This was a valuable feature in Window-Eyes that came in handy more often than I can count when managing systems that continued to update areas of the screen via their web interfaces. > > Hopefully someone on this list will come through for you. > > Vic Pereira > > Project Manager, Network, Security and Digital Services (NSDS) Shared > Services Canada, Government of Canada vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tel: > 204-781-5046 > > Gestionnaire de Projet, Réseaux, sécurité et services numériques > (RSSN) Services partagés Canada, Gouvernement du Canada > vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tél. : 204-781-5046 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Billy Irwin <billy.irwin(a)outlook.com> > Sent: August-14-19 10:54 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA > > Hi Vick, > > I am using Chrome and Waterfox with no success. I think it is real time updating and it is quite agrivating. It will simply just crash the browser if I try to navigate around. > > Thanks, > > Billy > > -----Original Message----- > From: vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:52 AM > To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA > > I do know that Internet Explorer likes to lock up systems running screen readers these days. However it seems as if Firefox and Chrome are more forgiving. This is also true when pages have dynamic content. > > Vic Pereira > > Project Manager, Network, Security and Digital Services (NSDS) Shared > Services Canada, Government of Canada vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tel: > 204-781-5046 > > Gestionnaire de Projet, Réseaux, sécurité et services numériques > (RSSN) Services partagés Canada, Gouvernement du Canada > vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tél. : 204-781-5046 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Billy Irwin <billy.irwin(a)outlook.com> > Sent: August-14-19 10:49 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Browser Issues with JAWS and NVDA > > Hi All, > > I have an issue on multiple PC's where when I login to the Mikrotiks or UBNT equipment, it freezes the browser because the interface tables are dynamically updating and the screen readers can't seem to handle it. Do you have any suggestions besides doing this all in SSH? > > Thanks, > > Billy > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Software for our documentation
by Eigeldinger Simon 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Sounds interesting. Will try that. Let's hope it also supports images to auto upload when pasting. *smile* Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. August 2019 16:48 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Software for our documentation I think Dokuwiki has an add-on editor plugin that allows for toggling between plaintext and WYSIWYG editing styles. https://www.dokuwiki.org Chris On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 02:43:04PM +0000, Eigeldinger Simon wrote: > Hi all, > > We need a Software, wiki, CMS or whatever to document our IT and our software tutorials. > At the moment we are using OneNote 2016 or at least my coleagues use OneNote and i am basically am lost. > We need something accessible, offline if possible solution to manage all that stuff. > Any ideas from the folks over here? > My sighted people like clicky things and pictures. *smile* > So i guess markdown and converting that to html using hugo or a wiki might be unfriendly for them. > Or a software with both a visual and a code based editor. > Prefered open source. > > So basically that they can write their stuff in word and paste it into the browser, software or whatever. > > Greetings and thanks, > Simon > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en > > Simon Eigeldinger > Informatik > Nebengeb?ude 1, OG1 > > [Hohenems_logo]Stadt Hohenems > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Stra?e 4 > 6845 Hohenems > T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at > > Diese Nachricht und allf?llige angeh?ngte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur f?r den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Software for our documentation
by Eigeldinger Simon 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Hi all, We need a Software, wiki, CMS or whatever to document our IT and our software tutorials. At the moment we are using OneNote 2016 or at least my coleagues use OneNote and i am basically am lost. We need something accessible, offline if possible solution to manage all that stuff. Any ideas from the folks over here? My sighted people like clicky things and pictures. *smile* So i guess markdown and converting that to html using hugo or a wiki might be unfriendly for them. Or a software with both a visual and a code based editor. Prefered open source. So basically that they can write their stuff in word and paste it into the browser, software or whatever. Greetings and thanks, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 [Hohenems_logo]Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.

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Advice on GPS talk
by John G Heim 07 Aug '19

07 Aug '19

I am giving a talk about GPS for the blind at a convention fro blind people. I want to make sure my talk is complete. If you were giving such a talk, what items would you cover? Hardware? Software? -- John G. Heim; jheim(a)math.wisc.edu; 608-263-4189

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Loading a javascript module
by John G Heim 07 Aug '19

07 Aug '19

Can you load a javascript module in a script embedded in a web page? If so how? I am trying to write a web page to display values in a yaml data file. I want to read this yaml data, parse it, and display the values. I found there is a javascript module available to do that. I installed it on my linux machine with the command 'apt-get install node-js-yaml'. The examples that come with the code don't work when embedded in a script on a web page. The line where it fails looks like this: var yaml = require('js-yaml'); I have been googling all day but all I can find are more examples that do not appear to be embedded in a web page. -- John G. Heim; jheim(a)math.wisc.edu; 608-263-4189

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Terminal improvements are coming to NVDA 2019.3!
by Bill Dengler 07 Aug '19

07 Aug '19

Hello, I’ve been working as a Google Summer of Code student with NV Access over the past couple of months. My project <https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5317267756154880/> involves improving NVDA performance and stability in the Windows Console used by Command Prompt, PowerShell, and the Windows Subsystem for Linux on Windows 10 version 1803 and later. The new console support is set to ship as part of NVDA 2019.3, to be released later this year. In the mean time, I’d greatly appreciate your testing of, and feedback from, the latest master (alpha) snapshots, which can be found on this page <http://nvda-project.org/snapshots>. A limited version of the new support will also ship in 2019.2 within the next few weeks behind a feature flag. Thanks in advance for testing, and be sure to let me know what you think! Bill

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Re: Terminal improvements are coming to NVDA 2019.3!
by Bill Dengler 07 Aug '19

07 Aug '19

Wow, what a coincidence! Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2019, at 01:58, Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >

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setting up 2fa?
by David Mehler 01 Aug '19

01 Aug '19

Hello, To those of you who use 2fa on your accounts how did you get it set up? Most setups I've read about seem to indicate that you have to scan a qr code which periodically changes so your second factor can generate a one-time use key, problem with me is my computer has no monitor attached, I've got it running headless. I'd like to secure all services that I've got with 2fa, is this doable without a monitor? Services include: ebay yahoo amazon audible linux/bsd secure shell access linux roundcube webmail Thanks for any pointers. Thanks. Dave.

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Verizon phishing emails, 2fa securing?
by David Mehler 01 Aug '19

01 Aug '19

Hello, I've got some people who have verizon email addresses and they keep getting what I know to be fake/phishing verizon emails. They're getting a little peranoid and doing password change isn't calming them even though they do it everytime. Is there a way to tighten up verizon's email access on their side, maybe 2fa? I'm assuming they're accessing either via phone (it would be an iPhone if it is) or pc browser webmail access. Thanks. Dave.

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