From simon.eigeldinger@vol.at Sun Jan 12 18:04:45 2020
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Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Fwd: [Special] [nvda] The Status of NVDA Remote and
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-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: [Special] [nvda] The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3 -=20
The "Last Word" until there's New Information
Datum: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:03:29 -0800
Von: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
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An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

*The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3* :

The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the=20
earlier topic NVDA remote (=20
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/nvda_remote/69323538?p=3D,,,20,0,0,0::rec=
entpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,60,69323538=20
) , which can be reviewed in the NVDA Group Archive by activating the=20
link given.=C2=A0 The single message with the greatest detail regarding the=20
current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee (=20
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/68245 ).

The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA=20
2019.2 release.

When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be=20
assured that it will be announced here.=C2=A0 Until and unless that happens, =

if you must have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA=20
release that is earlier than NVDA 2019.3.=C2=A0 There is currently no=20
projected date for getting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and=20
later, but the need is recognized.

You can find contact information for the NVDA Remote developers at the=20
bottom of the NVDA Remote Access ( https://nvdaremote.com/ ) Home Page.=C2=A0=
=20
Search for the link, =E2=80=9CChristopher Toth and Tyler Spivey,=E2=80=9D whi=
ch is a=20
mailto link for the developers.=C2=A0 Questions regarding NVDA Remote should =

be directed to them unless the functionality were to be integrated into=20
NVDA itself.

I have previously stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until=20
or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked.

I am begging the membership at large to simply "watch this space" for=20
updated information once it becomes available rather than continuing to=20
churn out topic after topic regarding NVDA Remote.=C2=A0 Also, please review =

the document: Searching_the_NVDA_Group_Archive.docx (=20
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3JCmWa_=20
)

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From anatoliyshudrya@hotmail.com Mon Jan 13 00:59:49 2020
From: Anatoliy Shudrya <anatoliyshudrya@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Fwd: [Special] [nvda] The Status of NVDA Remote
 and NVDA 2019.3 - The "Last Word" until there's New Information
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It=E2=80=99s probably not new to any of you.

Last time I tested NVDA 2019 on a Windows server 2019, no remote ad-on was ne=
cessary. It=E2=80=99s working flawlessly via RDP. Install NVDA on a remote ma=
chine, connect via RDP, start NVDA and good to go. Even without sound card.

Does not work though on the older 2008 OS.

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Antwort an: nvda@nvda.groups.io
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

*The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3* :

The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the earlie=
r topic NVDA remote (
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnvda.grou=
ps.io%2Fg%2Fnvda%2Ftopic%2Fnvda_remote%2F69323538%3Fp%3D%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2=
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) , which can be reviewed in the NVDA Group Archive by activating the link gi=
ven.=C2=A0 The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current =
status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee (
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnvda.grou=
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=3D0 ).

The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA
2019.2 release.

When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured th=
at it will be announced here.=C2=A0 Until and unless that happens, if you mus=
t have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that is=
 earlier than NVDA 2019.3.=C2=A0 There is currently no projected date for get=
ting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is reco=
gnized.

You can find contact information for the NVDA Remote developers at the bottom=
 of the NVDA Remote Access ( https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?=
url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnvdaremote.com%2F&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C6e22947125ce425=
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d=3D0 ) Home Page. Search for the link, =E2=80=9CChristopher Toth and Tyler S=
pivey,=E2=80=9D which is a mailto link for the developers.=C2=A0 Questions re=
garding NVDA Remote should be directed to them unless the functionality were =
to be integrated into NVDA itself.

I have previously stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or u=
nless something changes, so this topic is now locked.

I am begging the membership at large to simply "watch this space" for updated=
 information once it becomes available rather than continuing to churn out to=
pic after topic regarding NVDA Remote.=C2=A0 Also, please review the document=
: Searching_the_NVDA_Group_Archive.docx (
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From simon.eigeldinger@vol.at Mon Jan 13 17:54:12 2020
From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at>
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Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Fwd: [Special] [nvda] The Status of NVDA Remote
 and NVDA 2019.3 - The "Last Word" until there's New Information
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Hi Anatoliy,

I would still recommend the addon though.
With the addon you also get braille support.
also you get no lag when using machines over poor lines.
also connecting to computers of users it might be more convenient to use=20
the addon.
you can turn off speech on their pc and use the addon to receive all=20
outputs.
additionally you can focus a window on your local machine and toggle=20
between local and remote with f11.
Nice if you have to do things locally and remotely at the same time.

Greetings,
Simon



Am 13.01.2020 um 01:59 schrieb Anatoliy Shudrya:
> It=E2=80=99s probably not new to any of you.
>=20
> Last time I tested NVDA 2019 on a Windows server 2019, no remote ad-on was =
necessary. It=E2=80=99s working flawlessly via RDP. Install NVDA on a remote =
machine, connect via RDP, start NVDA and good to go. Even without sound card.
>=20
> Does not work though on the older 2008 OS.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>
> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Fwd: [Special] [nvda] The Status of NVDA Remote =
and NVDA 2019.3 - The "Last Word" until there's New Information
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: [Special] [nvda] The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3 - The "=
Last Word" until there's New Information
> Datum: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:03:29 -0800
> Von: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
> Antwort an: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>=20
> *The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3* :
>=20
> The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the earl=
ier topic NVDA remote (
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnvda.gr=
oups.io%2Fg%2Fnvda%2Ftopic%2Fnvda_remote%2F69323538%3Fp%3D%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0=
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x7seLcz%2BWZwYeE%3D&amp;reserved=3D0
> ) , which can be reviewed in the NVDA Group Archive by activating the link =
given.=C2=A0 The single message with the greatest detail regarding the curren=
t status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee (
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnvda.gr=
oups.io%2Fg%2Fnvda%2Fmessage%2F68245&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C6e22947125ce425d=
75ae08d79789f261%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637144491044673=
657&amp;sdata=3DRgTykLtpttGKd8WB6sX11T9fcCa%2BNd5Ogk%2B2acT9fOE%3D&amp;reserv=
ed=3D0 ).
>=20
> The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA
> 2019.2 release.
>=20
> When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured =
that it will be announced here.=C2=A0 Until and unless that happens, if you m=
ust have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that =
is earlier than NVDA 2019.3.=C2=A0 There is currently no projected date for g=
etting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is re=
cognized.
>=20
> You can find contact information for the NVDA Remote developers at the bott=
om of the NVDA Remote Access ( https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com=
/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnvdaremote.com%2F&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C6e22947125ce4=
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673657&amp;sdata=3D9wKKMbEG6LVF5bFpoht%2FzVppW2u2Bhi53zJdqRzFhwQ%3D&amp;reser=
ved=3D0 ) Home Page. Search for the link, =E2=80=9CChristopher Toth and Tyler=
 Spivey,=E2=80=9D which is a mailto link for the developers.=C2=A0 Questions =
regarding NVDA Remote should be directed to them unless the functionality wer=
e to be integrated into NVDA itself.
>=20
> I have previously stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or=
 unless something changes, so this topic is now locked.
>=20
> I am begging the membership at large to simply "watch this space" for updat=
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