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win10 update fail
by David Mehler 23 Jan '18

23 Jan '18

Hello, I've got a machine well it's an owner of same that is driving me insane. It's a win10 1607 box that is failing it's 1709 update. The machine using update assistant successfully downloads, verifies, and begins installation. On the first reboot installation continues, then stops at between 20 and 25% changes are reverted and the amachine reboots back in to win10. The update obviously fails. It is now to the point where the update comes daily and is not stopped, this is one reason why I don't like the new win10 update plan if there's an issue you face it repeatedly and can not defer. In an effort to halt the update until I can get a fix I disabled windows update, (didn't work 10 restarted the service), disabled windows update and set the failure action on the service to do nothing, (ditto restarted), removed the windows 10 update assistant and the win10 privacy settings update prereqs for 1709 update (these updates were put back and the system atempts the update at least once a day more now). I'd appreciate any suggestions. This machine is not running out of storage space, has a 1 tb drive. It's running a UEFI setup, so booting by thumb drive is not doable. Unless someone knows if a gigabyte motherboard ga-990fx has a boot menu and where the usb option is. I'd appreciate any help, some urgency! Thanks. Dave.

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win10 update fail
by David Mehler 23 Jan '18

23 Jan '18

Hello, I've got a machine well it's an owner of same that is driving me insane. It's a win10 1607 box that is failing it's 1709 update. The machine using update assistant successfully downloads, verifies, and begins installation. On the first reboot installation continues, then stops at between 20 and 25% changes are reverted and the amachine reboots back in to win10. The update obviously fails. It is now to the point where the update comes daily and is not stopped, this is one reason why I don't like the new win10 update plan if there's an issue you face it repeatedly and can not defer. In an effort to halt the update until I can get a fix I disabled windows update, (didn't work 10 restarted the service), disabled windows update and set the failure action on the service to do nothing, (ditto restarted), removed the windows 10 update assistant and the win10 privacy settings update prereqs for 1709 update (these updates were put back and the system atempts the update at least once a day more now). I'd appreciate any suggestions. This machine is not running out of storage space, has a 1 tb drive. It's running a UEFI setup, so booting by thumb drive is not doable. Unless someone knows if a gigabyte motherboard ga-990fx has a boot menu and where the usb option is. I'd appreciate any help, some urgency! Thanks. Dave.

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Azure and screen readers.
by Darragh Ó Héiligh 17 Jan '18

17 Jan '18

Hello, Can someone please tell me what is going on with Azure? Oh please tell me what is going on because I'm losing my mind. About a month ago, the interface went through a weird design change where there was a beautiful accessible combo box along with the weird expandable controls that Jaws can't get it's head around. In my head I thought "Perfect!!! They've hidden an accessible alternative control in response to the issues I encountered about 6 months ago". Today I go back with the expectation of undertaking a rather huge project for the next week or two and I find that those lovely combo boxes are gone and Jaws no longer reads 99% of the drop down list things that are used absolutely everywhere in the interface. I'm going crazy here. I know that they are making a lot of changes with this never ending development cycle thing they are doing these days but come on. Won't someone thinkof the sys admins who need to use this rubbish regularly? Why can't people just use a combobox! If it acts like a combobox, looks like a combobox, conveys all the consistency of a combobox, I fail to see why it can't just be a ......... combobox! Please tell me I'm not the only one encountering this frustration. On the topic of Jaws, If Microsoft are in bed with the HTML5 standards, is it too much of me to expect that the controls they are using in the Azure portal are in some way HTML5 based? If so, shouldn't Jaws pick them up and handle them correctly? I've spent the day in powershell now and I really dislike powershell when creating a full Azure implementation from scratch. It's great for regular administration but I hate it for this type of thing. Please help me. Tell me I'm not alone with this Azure stuff and that others out there are going through the same pain as I am. Oh then to top it all off, I had to submit a support request. The combo boxes for that are no longer accessible too but the tree view for picking the sub category is some weird custom control as well. The ramble about comboboxes remaining combobox's applies to treeviews too. I've been at this computer for 13 hours now. It's probably time I stop. Regards Darragh

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Azure and screen readers.
by Darragh Ó Héiligh 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Hello, Can someone please tell me what is going on with Azure? Oh please tell me what is going on because I'm losing my mind. About a month ago, the interface went through a weird design change where there was a beautiful accessible combo box along with the weird expandable controls that Jaws can't get it's head around. In my head I thought "Perfect!!! They've hidden an accessible alternative control in response to the issues I encountered about 6 months ago". Today I go back with the expectation of undertaking a rather huge project for the next week or two and I find that those lovely combo boxes are gone and Jaws no longer reads 99% of the drop down list things that are used absolutely everywhere in the interface. I'm going crazy here. I know that they are making a lot of changes with this never ending development cycle thing they are doing these days but come on. Won't someone thinkof the sys admins who need to use this rubbish regularly? Why can't people just use a combobox! If it acts like a combobox, looks like a combobox, conveys all the consistency of a combobox, I fail to see why it can't just be a ......... combobox! Please tell me I'm not the only one encountering this frustration. On the topic of Jaws, If Microsoft are in bed with the HTML5 standards, is it too much of me to expect that the controls they are using in the Azure portal are in some way HTML5 based? If so, shouldn't Jaws pick them up and handle them correctly? I've spent the day in powershell now and I really dislike powershell when creating a full Azure implementation from scratch. It's great for regular administration but I hate it for this type of thing. Please help me. Tell me I'm not alone with this Azure stuff and that others out there are going through the same pain as I am. Oh then to top it all off, I had to submit a support request. The combo boxes for that are no longer accessible too but the tree view for picking the sub category is some weird custom control as well. The ramble about comboboxes remaining combobox's applies to treeviews too. I've been at this computer for 13 hours now. It's probably time I stop. Regards Darragh

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Wire shark accessibility
by Barry Toner 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Hi all, Just wondering if any of you folks are using this and if you can comment on it's accessibility? Thanks, Barry.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Solarwinds Accessibility
by vic.pereira＠ssc-spc.gc.ca 15 Jan '18

15 Jan '18

Roughly five or six years ago I used the Solarwinds web interface. It worked very nicely with Window-eyes. Since I am no longer watching for alerts and managing servers over a wide area network, I am not able to speak to how recent versions work with JFW. If the web interfaces are the same I don't see it being a problem, because they were using standard HTML controls. Vic Pereira Project Manager, Networks and End Users Branch Shared Services Canada, Government of Canada vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tel: 204-781-5046 Gestionnaire de Projet, Direction Générale des Réseaux et des Utilisateurs Finaux Services partagés Canada, Gouvernement du Canada vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tél. : 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 06:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Wire shark accessibility Hi, How is solarwinds for accessibility? I've an interview coming up for a Cyber Security company and want to gather as much info prior to this. Thanks, Barry. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:09 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Kieran Little Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Wire shark accessibility I wouldn't know anything about that; I've ever only used it to examine packets. For network monitoring we use solarwinds On 15 January 2018 at 12:05, Barry Toner <barry(a)tonermail.co.uk> wrote: > Cheers. > How about having it email logs/alerts for analysis? > > Cheers, > Barry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily. > org] On Behalf Of Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 10:41 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Cc: Kieran Little > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Wire shark accessibility > > I haven't for a while. From what I remember though you could get > something out of it with jaws curser. Due to its nature it's quite > hard to get stuff out of it though as there is constantly new info coming in. > Regards, > Kieran. > > On 15 January 2018 at 10:38, Barry Toner <barry(a)tonermail.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering if any of you folks are using this and if you can > > comment on its accessibility? > > > > Thanks, > > Barry. > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > > > > -- > Kieran Little > IT Apprentice > Information Services > Northumberland County Council > County Hall > Morpeth > NE61 2EF > Service desk: 01670 627004 > Direct: 01670623699 > Email: kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk > Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk > > -- > <http://family.northumberland.gov.uk> > > *Save Time Do It Online!* > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services > easy to access. 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Before printing > this e-mail ask yourself: "Do I need a hard copy?"* > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- Kieran Little IT Apprentice Information Services Northumberland County Council County Hall Morpeth NE61 2EF Service desk: 01670 627004 Direct: 01670623699 Email: kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk -- <http://family.northumberland.gov.uk> *Save Time Do It Online!* We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. *Please, consider your environmental responsibility. 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Wire shark accessibility
by Barry Toner 15 Jan '18

15 Jan '18

Hi all, Just wondering if any of you folks are using this and if you can comment on it's accessibility? Thanks, Barry.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt
by Eigeldinger Simon 12 Jan '18

12 Jan '18

Hi, The MBR was broken afterwards as well but has been fixed. Now everything works as expected. Greetings and thanks, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Hodgson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Jänner 2018 19:40 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi, Exactly. It is actually though valid to have a GPT partition in Windows 7 as it supports EFI, but it isn't a common configuration. If I were you I would verify the laptop is booting via mbr and then delete the GPT from the disk. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: 11 January 2018 14:08 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi Andrew, This laptop came with win 10 as far as I know and was downgraded to win 7. Seems the disk wasn't properly whiped. Thanks, Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Hodgson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Jänner 2018 13:11 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi, I saw this when installing Windows 7 on a machine that had Windows 8 on it and in that case I knew the machine was MBR so could fix this. The thing is you really need to know why the GPT partition table may be there in the first place to understand the implication of removing either of the partition tables. Every time I do a new installation like this now I do diskpart clean on the boot volume. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Eigeldinger Simon [simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at] Sent: 11 January 2018 06:52 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi all, I wanted to backup a win 7 64 bit laptop which has been recently been reinstalled. Now clonezilla gives me that error: The selected devices: sda This disk contains mismatched GPT and MBR partition: /dev/sda It will confuse Clonezilla and might make the saved image useless or fail to clo ne the disk. You can use gdisk or sgdisk to fix this issue. E.g. if you are sure only MBR par tition table is the one you want, you can run this command to destroy the GPT pa rtition table while keep the MBR partition table: sudo sgdisk -z /dev/sdx //NOTE// (1) Replace /dev/sdx with the above hard drive name. (2) ALL EXISTING D ATA ON THE DISK WILL BE LOST IF GIVING WRONG COMMAND. USE THIS COMMAND CAREFULLY ! Please fix this issue then restart Clonezilla again. Program terminated!! Press "Enter" to continue...... Is that dangerous when i remove the gpt partition? Has someone done that without any issues? Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt
by Eigeldinger Simon 11 Jan '18

11 Jan '18

Hi Andrew, This laptop came with win 10 as far as I know and was downgraded to win 7. Seems the disk wasn't properly whiped. Thanks, Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Hodgson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Jänner 2018 13:11 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi, I saw this when installing Windows 7 on a machine that had Windows 8 on it and in that case I knew the machine was MBR so could fix this. The thing is you really need to know why the GPT partition table may be there in the first place to understand the implication of removing either of the partition tables. Every time I do a new installation like this now I do diskpart clean on the boot volume. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Eigeldinger Simon [simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at] Sent: 11 January 2018 06:52 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi all, I wanted to backup a win 7 64 bit laptop which has been recently been reinstalled. Now clonezilla gives me that error: The selected devices: sda This disk contains mismatched GPT and MBR partition: /dev/sda It will confuse Clonezilla and might make the saved image useless or fail to clo ne the disk. You can use gdisk or sgdisk to fix this issue. E.g. if you are sure only MBR par tition table is the one you want, you can run this command to destroy the GPT pa rtition table while keep the MBR partition table: sudo sgdisk -z /dev/sdx //NOTE// (1) Replace /dev/sdx with the above hard drive name. (2) ALL EXISTING D ATA ON THE DISK WILL BE LOST IF GIVING WRONG COMMAND. USE THIS COMMAND CAREFULLY ! Please fix this issue then restart Clonezilla again. Program terminated!! Press "Enter" to continue...... Is that dangerous when i remove the gpt partition? Has someone done that without any issues? Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt
by Eigeldinger Simon 11 Jan '18

11 Jan '18

Hi Andrew, This laptop came with win 10 as far as I know and was downgraded to win 7. Seems the disk wasn't properly whiped. Thanks, Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Hodgson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Jänner 2018 13:11 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi, I saw this when installing Windows 7 on a machine that had Windows 8 on it and in that case I knew the machine was MBR so could fix this. The thing is you really need to know why the GPT partition table may be there in the first place to understand the implication of removing either of the partition tables. Every time I do a new installation like this now I do diskpart clean on the boot volume. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Eigeldinger Simon [simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at] Sent: 11 January 2018 06:52 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] missmatching mbr and gpt Hi all, I wanted to backup a win 7 64 bit laptop which has been recently been reinstalled. Now clonezilla gives me that error: The selected devices: sda This disk contains mismatched GPT and MBR partition: /dev/sda It will confuse Clonezilla and might make the saved image useless or fail to clo ne the disk. You can use gdisk or sgdisk to fix this issue. E.g. if you are sure only MBR par tition table is the one you want, you can run this command to destroy the GPT pa rtition table while keep the MBR partition table: sudo sgdisk -z /dev/sdx //NOTE// (1) Replace /dev/sdx with the above hard drive name. (2) ALL EXISTING D ATA ON THE DISK WILL BE LOST IF GIVING WRONG COMMAND. USE THIS COMMAND CAREFULLY ! Please fix this issue then restart Clonezilla again. Program terminated!! Press "Enter" to continue...... Is that dangerous when i remove the gpt partition? Has someone done that without any issues? Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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