February 2018 - Blind-sysadmins - lists.hodgsonfamily.org

Accessible MDM?
by Anatoliy Shudrya 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

Hi, Any recommendations for accessible MDM? I have tried Meraki, but the features are limited. I have also tried G Suite for Education MDM solution and it's not very accessible. If you manage mobile devices with a screen reader, what solution do you use? Kind Regards, Anatoliy

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Meraki Accessability
by Troy Hergert 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

A couple of weeks ago I commented on Meraki being fairly accessible. Most of it still is, but since they've made upgrades, it appears that the settings form controls are not reporting correctly to any screen reader. You can't determine which settings are checked or not. I needed a mouse click assistant to disable Imessaging on our iphones today. I could actually clear the checkmark with the keyboard, but screen readers couldn't report it.

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Meraki Accessability
by Troy Hergert 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

A couple of weeks ago I commented on Meraki being fairly accessible. Most of it still is, but since they've made upgrades, it appears that the settings form controls are not reporting correctly to any screen reader. You can't determine which settings are checked or not. I needed a mouse click assistant to disable Imessaging on our iphones today. I could actually clear the checkmark with the keyboard, but screen readers couldn't report it.

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SCCM with NVDA.
by Darragh Ó Héiligh 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Hello, I'm trying to transition from Jaws to NVDA for more day to day tasks but there are a few items that just don't work as expected. One of these is the SCCM main list view. Jaws reads this well but NVDA seems to get bogged down by something after reading a few items. For example: 1. Open SCCM. 2. Press control 1. 3. Press Control T to set focus to the treeview. 4. Press D twice to jump to the device collections view. 5. Press Control M to set focus to the list view. 6. Firstly NVDA reports unknown. This seems to be a problem with recognising that control but it's not a big deal. 7. Press tab a few times to get to the list view. 8. Arrow around using the up and down arrows. 9. NVDA speaks as expected. 10. Now press End. NVDA stops responding for a while. 11. Now when you arrow around the list it takes NVDA about 5 to 10 seconds to read out the currently focused list item. Say line doesn't update until the same 5 to 10 seconds time period as well. This could be a SCCM problem but I doubt it. I think it's NVDA related. If any of you have good contacts within the NVDA team would you mind bringing this up please? I assume that if I submit it via the NVDA Bugzilla site it will get put into a very long queue. I know they had an interest in making more system administration tools work with NVDA previously. I'm hoping that they are still interested in this. Thanks Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Websites: Personal: www.digitaldarragh.com<http://www.digitaldarragh.com> Professional: www.computersupportservices.ie<http://www.computersupportservices.ie> Music: www.ceol.fm<http://www.ceol.fm>

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LDAP/AD questions
by Jen Bottom 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Hi, Firstly apologies in advance for some of these questions. I am very new to LDAP/AD setup and administration. Background: I work for a company who have a couple of different LDAP/AD integrations, depending on the product. We are currently buying up other companies/products, and they sometimes come with their own LDAP/AD integrations. Recently the main person for LDAP knowledge in our team left to join IT, and I found my self for some reason offering to skill up on LDAP/AD. The problem: Most of the cases we get relating to LDAP, seem to result on the TSE getting on the customer's system via WebEx etc, to look at their tree, and other aspects of their configuration. There is some worry that I will not be able to do this, as there is not currently a remote desktop solution that works without the customer having to install a screen-reader. If I am wrong about this BTW then please post and let me know. For Linux boxes there is tmate etc, but I have found nothing like that for Windows. Also it is good to have a dump of the data, in case someone else takes over the case later on. So, I am looking for some useful commands that will dump the LDAP/AD tree info, so I can look at it with my screen reader/braille display. Also, I have looked in to setting up LDAP for test purposes. I want to use a Vagrant box or Docker image, but the implementations I saw in the past used puppet etc and looked fairly heacy. A lot of the tutorials I have looked at suggest to use the gui PHP admin tool. If anyone could point me to a command-line based resource for simple LDAP setup to get me started that would be great! Cheers, Jen!

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For those in here who use Microsoft Teams
by Katherine M. Moss 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Hello all, Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the Teams keystrokes don't often work as expected or not at all? For instance, I should be able to go immediately to the activity application bar via CTRL+1 (these worked for me at the very beginning, and then they just randomly quit.) I love Teams, and I find it one of the more accessible collaboration programs out there (with the seeming exception that copying messages via CTRL+C seems to work for everyone else but me). Not to mention, the awesome integrations and how they don't cost you anything for the feature. I find that most integrations work better on Teams mobile, though, than they do on the desktop (screen readers, I've tried both JAWS as well as NVDA and the result is the same, will say "You have received a card" whenever a new message comes in that's part of another application; does it all the time when we get JIRA updates posted to our community, drives me crazy). If others have noticed these issues, would love to see what we can do; mentioned them via Microsoft Tech community, but no responses there. If I send to the answer desk, which I've done in the past, it seems that I often never receive a response.

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For those in here who use Microsoft Teams
by Katherine M. Moss 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Hello all, Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the Teams keystrokes don't often work as expected or not at all? For instance, I should be able to go immediately to the activity application bar via CTRL+1 (these worked for me at the very beginning, and then they just randomly quit.) I love Teams, and I find it one of the more accessible collaboration programs out there (with the seeming exception that copying messages via CTRL+C seems to work for everyone else but me). Not to mention, the awesome integrations and how they don't cost you anything for the feature. I find that most integrations work better on Teams mobile, though, than they do on the desktop (screen readers, I've tried both JAWS as well as NVDA and the result is the same, will say "You have received a card" whenever a new message comes in that's part of another application; does it all the time when we get JIRA updates posted to our community, drives me crazy). If others have noticed these issues, would love to see what we can do; mentioned them via Microsoft Tech community, but no responses there. If I send to the answer desk, which I've done in the past, it seems that I often never receive a response.

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SCCM with NVDA.
by Darragh Ó Héiligh 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Hello, I'm trying to transition from Jaws to NVDA for more day to day tasks but there are a few items that just don't work as expected. One of these is the SCCM main list view. Jaws reads this well but NVDA seems to get bogged down by something after reading a few items. For example: 1. Open SCCM. 2. Press control 1. 3. Press Control T to set focus to the treeview. 4. Press D twice to jump to the device collections view. 5. Press Control M to set focus to the list view. 6. Firstly NVDA reports unknown. This seems to be a problem with recognising that control but it's not a big deal. 7. Press tab a few times to get to the list view. 8. Arrow around using the up and down arrows. 9. NVDA speaks as expected. 10. Now press End. NVDA stops responding for a while. 11. Now when you arrow around the list it takes NVDA about 5 to 10 seconds to read out the currently focused list item. Say line doesn't update until the same 5 to 10 seconds time period as well. This could be a SCCM problem but I doubt it. I think it's NVDA related. If any of you have good contacts within the NVDA team would you mind bringing this up please? I assume that if I submit it via the NVDA Bugzilla site it will get put into a very long queue. I know they had an interest in making more system administration tools work with NVDA previously. I'm hoping that they are still interested in this. Thanks Regards Darragh Ó Héiligh Websites: Personal: www.digitaldarragh.com<http://www.digitaldarragh.com> Professional: www.computersupportservices.ie<http://www.computersupportservices.ie> Music: www.ceol.fm<http://www.ceol.fm>

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casting a phone to a tablet
by David Mehler 04 Feb '18

04 Feb '18

Hello, I'm wanting to do an android upgrade on my phone. I don't have a pair of eyes around for this task. I was wondering if it were possible to cast the screen to my tablet, also running android, and have the tablet's talkback version work with the phone upgrade? Thanks. Dave.

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casting a phone to a tablet
by David Mehler 04 Feb '18

04 Feb '18

Hello, I'm wanting to do an android upgrade on my phone. I don't have a pair of eyes around for this task. I was wondering if it were possible to cast the screen to my tablet, also running android, and have the tablet's talkback version work with the phone upgrade? Thanks. Dave.

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