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Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code
by Jason White 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

I generally work from the command line anyway, using git diff, and would recommend it. I find the GitHub table-based diffs harder to read. On 2/8/19 9:52 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in the little more quicker to look at option as I think personally that anything else in relation to code may make us miss something especially if it is not obvious. Unfortunately if you view a diff in Github or Visual Studio, the changes are highlighted and can be easily seen, but even then it only works for a small subset of changes - anything large and people start complaining that they can't tell the differences easily. > > I do a Git diff on a specific commit myself and find that works well, though it probably isn't quicker than a sighted person looking at the diff in a pull request. I find it especially irritating when people do comments in PRs, as it can be a right mare to try and find the correct line the comment is refering to, then reply to the comment in context. > > Andrew. > > ________________________________________ > From: Jason White via Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] > Sent: 08 February 2019 13:07 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover; Jason White > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > > If you're working with a document rather than lines of code in Git, you can always use word-diff, which shows the differences word by word rather than line by line. It can also take account of the syntax of the source file (e.g., TeX/LaTeX). > > On 2/8/19, 04:54, "Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > > Hi, > Thank you for your advice everyone. > I tried the diff command and created the patch. This looks just like > what I use to do with SVN, by using the show unified diff option. > This solution works, but i'm looking for something else which may be a > little more faster to look at. > > Kind regards, > Chamandeep singh Grover > > On 1/21/19, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the details here - this is something I have struggled with a lot > > recently especially given the comments section in pull requests on specific > > lines of code. I usually end up messing something down the line because of > > this. I used Github before and it was bearly ok, but VSTS really isn't > > helpful in this regard at the moment. > > > > Andrew. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jared Stofflett <stofflet(a)gmail.com> > > Sent: 21 January 2019 20:25 > > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > > > > I use Bitbucket at work as well. After a pull request is open from the > > command-line I do the following git checkout develop git pull develop (these > > two commands insure I have the latest stable code for comparison.) git > > checkout pullrequestbranch git format-patch develop These last two commands > > will grab the code associated with a pull request, and for each commit not > > already in develop a patch file will be created with the differences between > > develop and the commit that has not been merged into develop. > > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jason White via Blind-sysadmins < > > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > > > >> I usually just run "git diff" from the shell, specifying the desired > >> revision or revisions, then review the output with my braille display. > >> > >> If it's a document rather than code, I use the --word-diff option. You > >> can also specify the desired syntax for word-diff, which is helpful if > >> you write LaTeX documents, as I do. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins > >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:16 AM > >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > >> Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789(a)googlemail.com> > >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> We have recently migrated over to git and using bitbucket. I am using > >> Jaws with Eclipse at the moment as my ide. > >> I wanted to ask for peoples' advice on carrying out code reviews and > >> seeing the differences between code versions. > >> > >> I am happy to try out a new ide such as visual studio code if it has > >> worked well for some people, but it is quite difficult at the moment > >> to understand the changes. > >> Previously when using SVN, I had this linked up with code compare, > >> which worked some what to alert changes. > >> > >> Any help/advice would be appreciated. > >> > >> Thank you > >> Chamandeep Singh Grover > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

Hi, Thank you for your advice everyone. I tried the diff command and created the patch. This looks just like what I use to do with SVN, by using the show unified diff option. This solution works, but i'm looking for something else which may be a little more faster to look at. Kind regards, Chamandeep singh Grover On 1/21/19, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the details here - this is something I have struggled with a lot > recently especially given the comments section in pull requests on specific > lines of code. I usually end up messing something down the line because of > this. I used Github before and it was bearly ok, but VSTS really isn't > helpful in this regard at the moment. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jared Stofflett <stofflet(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 21 January 2019 20:25 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > > I use Bitbucket at work as well. After a pull request is open from the > command-line I do the following git checkout develop git pull develop (these > two commands insure I have the latest stable code for comparison.) git > checkout pullrequestbranch git format-patch develop These last two commands > will grab the code associated with a pull request, and for each commit not > already in develop a patch file will be created with the differences between > develop and the commit that has not been merged into develop. > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jason White via Blind-sysadmins < > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > >> I usually just run "git diff" from the shell, specifying the desired >> revision or revisions, then review the output with my braille display. >> >> If it's a document rather than code, I use the --word-diff option. You >> can also specify the desired syntax for word-diff, which is helpful if >> you write LaTeX documents, as I do. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:16 AM >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789(a)googlemail.com> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code >> >> Hi All, >> >> We have recently migrated over to git and using bitbucket. I am using >> Jaws with Eclipse at the moment as my ide. >> I wanted to ask for peoples' advice on carrying out code reviews and >> seeing the differences between code versions. >> >> I am happy to try out a new ide such as visual studio code if it has >> worked well for some people, but it is quite difficult at the moment >> to understand the changes. >> Previously when using SVN, I had this linked up with code compare, >> which worked some what to alert changes. >> >> Any help/advice would be appreciated. >> >> Thank you >> Chamandeep Singh Grover >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Jason White 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

In Linux, development appears to be moving toward Pipewire (an audio/video routing service) and Wayland to enable remote desktop access. As far as I know, accessibility work hasn't been undertaken yet, but there is potential for it. The move from X11 to Wayland is not about to eliminate remote desktop access, contrary to the expectations of some observers. Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? > > Discuss. > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Can Kırca 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Thank you. How can I install it? Is RDP connection to a windows server is enough? Best. 2019-02-07 11:56 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk>: > No, if you have the remote access addon, it pulls over your licence from the > client. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 07 February 2019 08:56 > To: Kieran.Little <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk> > Cc: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; > Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > Do I need to activate with my license key on the same server as well? > So ıt needs 2 activation count, am I right? > Best. > > > 2019-02-07 11:27 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little > <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk>: >> It's an extra addon that you purchase. It'll tell you in the about >> dialog if you've got it. >> You can install the server through a command line switch, or if you >> just run the setup it should detect if you are running on a server and >> install the right components. I just use the command line switches to >> perform a silent server install >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: 07 February 2019 05:18 >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com>; Kieran.Little >> <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >> >> Hello, >> >> Could you share some details about JFW remote license? I have >> professional version and I think Remote license is included. Do I need >> to make a full installation to my remote server for Jaws? >> >> Best. >> >> 2019-02-06 18:45 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: >>> We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just >>> have the server components installed on the servers I am responsible >>> for. >>> We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver >>> (workspace) client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW >>> on there as I don't use it. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins >>> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 >>> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> >>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >>> >>> RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I >>> use it both at the company where I work, or at least the company does >>> (both straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), >>> as well as using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of >>> communicating with servers on my local and off site networks for >>> personal projects, on which I can actually be productive since my >>> servers have screen readers. Haven't figured out the best method for >>> me to remote at work yet. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM >>> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >>> >>> My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host >>> you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd >>> be interested to know otherwise. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to >>>> ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today >>>> giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix >>>> capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix >>>> implementations these days, and more and more is being done with >>>> custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. >>>> What potential options do we have going forward, are the current >>>> access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is >>>> now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? >>>> >>>> Discuss. >>>> Andrew. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >>> Save Time Do It Online! >>> We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services >>> easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council >>> tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >>> www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access >>> the relevant forms. >>> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >>> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged >>> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that >>> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on >>> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email >>> in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >>> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or >>> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. >>> >>> [Northumberland County Council] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> Can Kırca >> >> Save Time Do It Online! >> We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services >> easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council >> tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the >> relevant forms. >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that >> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on >> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in >> error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or >> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. >> >> [Northumberland County Council] >> > > > -- > Can Kırca > > Save Time Do It Online! > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to > access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting > a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click > 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. > This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it > is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact > the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication > may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal > policy and relevant legislation. > > [Northumberland County Council] > -- Can Kırca

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Can Kırca 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Do I need to activate with my license key on the same server as well? So ıt needs 2 activation count, am I right? Best. 2019-02-07 11:27 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk>: > It's an extra addon that you purchase. It'll tell you in the about dialog if > you've got it. > You can install the server through a command line switch, or if you just run > the setup it should detect if you are running on a server and install the > right components. I just use the command line switches to perform a silent > server install > > -----Original Message----- > From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 07 February 2019 05:18 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com>; Kieran.Little > <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > Hello, > > Could you share some details about JFW remote license? I have professional > version and I think Remote license is included. Do I need to make a full > installation to my remote server for Jaws? > > Best. > > 2019-02-06 18:45 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: >> We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just have >> the server components installed on the servers I am responsible for. >> We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver >> (workspace) client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW >> on there as I don't use it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >> >> RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I use >> it both at the company where I work, or at least the company does >> (both straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), >> as well as using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of >> communicating with servers on my local and off site networks for >> personal projects, on which I can actually be productive since my >> servers have screen readers. Haven't figured out the best method for me to >> remote at work yet. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >> >> My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host >> you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be >> interested to know otherwise. >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask >>> this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving >>> enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, >>> but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these >>> days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, >>> especially in the VDI space. >>> What potential options do we have going forward, are the current >>> access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is >>> now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? >>> >>> Discuss. >>> Andrew. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >> Save Time Do It Online! >> We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services >> easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council >> tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the >> relevant forms. >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that >> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on >> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in >> error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or >> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. >> >> [Northumberland County Council] >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > > > -- > Can Kırca > > Save Time Do It Online! > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to > access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting > a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click > 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. > This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it > is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact > the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication > may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal > policy and relevant legislation. > > [Northumberland County Council] > -- Can Kırca

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Can Kırca 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Hello, Could you share some details about JFW remote license? I have professional version and I think Remote license is included. Do I need to make a full installation to my remote server for Jaws? Best. 2019-02-06 18:45 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: > We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just have the > server components installed on the servers I am responsible for. > We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver (workspace) > client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW on there as I don't > use it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I use it > both at the company where I work, or at least the company does (both > straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), as well as > using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of communicating with servers > on my local and off site networks for personal projects, on which I can > actually be productive since my servers have screen readers. Haven't figured > out the best method for me to remote at work yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host you're > connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be interested > to know otherwise. > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask >> this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving >> enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, >> but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these >> days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially >> in the VDI space. >> What potential options do we have going forward, are the current >> access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is >> now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? >> >> Discuss. >> Andrew. >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > Save Time Do It Online! > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to > access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting > a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click > 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. > This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it > is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact > the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication > may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal > policy and relevant legislation. > > [Northumberland County Council] > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > -- Can Kırca

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Kieran.Little 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just have the server components installed on the servers I am responsible for. We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver (workspace) client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW on there as I don't use it. -----Original Message----- From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I use it both at the company where I work, or at least the company does (both straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), as well as using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of communicating with servers on my local and off site networks for personal projects, on which I can actually be productive since my servers have screen readers. Haven't figured out the best method for me to remote at work yet. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be interested to know otherwise. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask > this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving > enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, > but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these > days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. > What potential options do we have going forward, are the current > access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is > now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? > > Discuss. > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Save Time Do It Online! We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. [Northumberland County Council]

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Samuel Barnes 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be interested to know otherwise. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this > question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in > accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be > honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and > more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. > What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access > methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now > responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? > > Discuss. > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Andrew Hodgson 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

Hi, The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? Discuss. Andrew.

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Citrix web plug-in with JAWS
by Iaen Cordell 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

Good morning list, I am going for a job and they are using Citrix with the web plug-in, from what I have read JFW will only work with the Citrix receiver client and not the plug-in. Can someone please confirm this? A support call and email to freedom scientific gave mixed results, that is the phone call said no and the email said yes. Thanking you in advance Iaen Cordell.

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