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WE and RDP
by Scott Wheat 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

Hi Mika, It has been a while since I set it up. Basically, you have to get WE installed on the remote machine and then select the Virtual (remote desktop / terminal services) synthesizer and when you pick your Braille display make sure you choose the proper virtualization radio button. On the machine you are going to be sitting at, you need to go to start > windoweyes > advanced options and run Virtual channel maintenance. Here you need to enable Microsoft Virtual Channel Support. There may have been some other things, but that covers the basics. You can find some more info in the WE manual and in the knowledge base at gwmicro.com. As for remotely installing WE, I haven't looked at that. When I set up the servers here at work, I had the benefit of my co-workers eyes to help so we just logged in and installed it the normal way using a copy of the CD that I had put on a share. Good luck! Scott -----Original Message---From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:06 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi Scott, Can you describe any specific configuration needed to get WE running on the client system that you are trying to control? Also lets say you want to start using WE or I suppose any screen reader on a remote pc, lets say an end users machine or a server that you need to manage. Have you found a way to remotely install WE or another screen reader? At this point until its installed you would not have a screen reader on the target system. I'm thinking of eg using msiexec or a script etc to remotely install the AT software on a computer you will want to manage via RDP. Best, Mika -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Wheat Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi Mika, As for using WE for RDP, so far for me it is working quite well. Basically you install WE on the serer or other windows machine you want to connect to. Depending on your setup and requirements, you will have some configuration to do to get the local copy of WE talking, but it isn't all that complicated. After it is set up, you simply run Remote Desktop on your local computer, connect to the machine you want and WE starts reading everything on the host as if it were local. At work I have RDP set up so I can access 5 different Windows 2008R2 servers. On some of them I haven't got Braille working but it does on others. I am sure it is a setting I missed somewhere and I'll figure it out eventually. We could argue for days as to if using RDP and WE is the best thing to do in a production environment, but so far it is working for me. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:11 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, If you have another voice say from Jaws, NVDA, etc. would you need to buy it again in order to use with WE? I would also be interested how people use WE for RDP. Best, Mika -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:08 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, Yes it is the full version with the exception that it comes with no Braille hotkey guide, no unlimited tech support and Espeak and Microsoft Platform speech, so you have to buy other voices, such as Eloquence, Dectalk or Vocalizer if you want them. it's pretty exciting though. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve(a)comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 14 January 2014 23:02 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really? How could GW make moey from this? On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope. Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi all, Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there. Andrew. Jan-14-2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com<http://www.gwmicro.com>) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille. To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world. As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people. In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term. Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft. Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.com<http://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com>. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer. GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com<http://www.gwmicro.com>) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] drobo 5n NAS device accessibility
by Chris Nestrud 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

FYI the web GUI on at least the DS411 Synology model is almost unusable with JFW. It is possible to enable ssh and edit the Samba and other configuration files. Buyer beware. Chris On Wed, January 15, 2014 12:51 pm, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > Sinology also allow SSH access, I don't know if either has a usable web > GUI. I think Sinology has more use than the Drobo stuff, you can install > PHP websites on the device and set up mail servers and the like if you > want. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blind-sysadmins > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Philip Hall > Sent: 15 January 2014 18:25 > To: 'blind system admins' > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] drobo 5n NAS device accessibility > > Hi. > > Has anyone had any experience with the Drobo 5n NAS device? > > If so, how accessible is their dashboard application that runs on the pc? > > One reason I am looking at this particular NAS appliance is: > > Apparently it is possible to install ssh on the device and log in to > administer the device. It runs Linux. > > Thanks > > Phil > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >

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freeNAS
by Philip Hall 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

I have been following with much interest the thread about accessible NAS devices or solutions. I came across a project called FreeNAS. It looks like it is based on FreeBSD. The primary interface after installation is via a web interface. Has anyone looked at this solution? Phil

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drobo 5n NAS device accessibility
by Philip Hall 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hi. Has anyone had any experience with the Drobo 5n NAS device? If so, how accessible is their dashboard application that runs on the pc? One reason I am looking at this particular NAS appliance is: Apparently it is possible to install ssh on the device and log in to administer the device. It runs Linux. Thanks Phil

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FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
by Andrew Hodgson 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hi all, Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there. Andrew. Jan-14-2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com<http://www.gwmicro.com>) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille. To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world. As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people. In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term. Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft. Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.com<http://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com>. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer. GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com<http://www.gwmicro.com>) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions. Contact: Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing dan(a)gwmicro.com<mailto:dan@gwmicro.com> (260) 489-3671 All the best, Ibrahim. -- To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/ To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email moderator(a)bcab.org.uk.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
by Chris Smart 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Yes, very very interesting. That, plus NVDA, plus the Mac/VoiceOver competition must be making the shark look over its shoulder nervously. If I had the usability with a few specific applications with WE or NVDA that I currently enjoy with Jaws and some very extensive scripting, I would uh, jump the shark. LOL At 10:26 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote: >& I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an >absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is >kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who >downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW >entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could >see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of >customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm >actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. >I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new >computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded >screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office >2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? >Guess not! > >Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe. > >On 1/14/14, Chris Smart <csmart8(a)cogeco.ca> wrote: > > At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote: > > > >>How could GW make money from this? > > > > I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact > > that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > > >-- >Jackie McBride >Author of the Upcoming Book >"Beyond Baffled: the Technophobe's Guide to Creating a Website" >www.brighter-vision.com Where Visionaries & Technology Unite >Jaws Scripting training >www.screenreaderscripting.com > >_______________________________________________ >Blind-sysadmins mailing list >Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
by Andrew Hodgson 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hi all, Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there. Andrew. Jan-14-2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com<http://www.gwmicro.com>) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille. To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world. As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people. In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term. Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft. Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.com<http://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com>. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer. GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com<http://www.gwmicro.com>) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions. Contact: Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing dan(a)gwmicro.com<mailto:dan@gwmicro.com> (260) 489-3671 All the best, Ibrahim. -- To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/ To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email moderator(a)bcab.org.uk.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Weastern Hard disk problem
by Chris Smart 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

There are restoration services that will try to recover your data for you, but they aren't cheap. Is your data more valuable monetarily than the cost of a new drive? and, DON'T FORGET TO BACK UP REGULARLY next time. At 08:52 AM 1/9/2014, you wrote: >hello dears > >please, which program do the image for such unalocated disk to try to >access it by data-back or another? >another thing, am i find a software scan the disk to identify the >problem for me? > many thanks > >On 1/9/14, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben(a)benmr.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yes, Vinux and most other Linux distributions will contain the DD > > command, although you will have to run this through the terminal as it > > doesn't have a gui. > > > > Cheers, > > Ben. > > > > On 1/9/14, Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> dear ben > >> thanks for your care > >> please, which program let me image it sector by sector as you mentioned > >> another thing is vinux live cd contain dd app you told me about? > >> sorry i've not background in such problems > >> thanks > >> > >> On 1/8/14, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben(a)benmr.com> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I would suggest imaging it, sector by sector, to a known good 80GB or > >>> larger drive then using software like Get Data Back or rStudio to > >>> attempt to recover the files. > >>> > >>> If you can boot into something like Vinux, dd should be able to handle > >>> the imaging, although if the drive has physical problems, bare in mind > >>> that attempting to access the drive may cause the problems to get > >>> worse, to the point where you will have to send it to a data recovery > >>> company if you require the data. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Ben. > >>> > >>> On 1/8/14, Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> hello sirs > >>>> please, i've big problem hope i found one help me > >>>> > >>>> suddenly my hard disk at home stope working and i wasn't make back-up > >>>> for my data > >>>> it gave me unalocated disk > >>>> don't know what's wrong, any solve for this problem? > >>>> what i shall use to identify the problem and how i get my data. > >>>> note: hard disk is 80 gb, c is ntfs, and the another partations fat32, > >>>> hard disk is data caple. > >>>> wait your guide if you please > >>>> thanks > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list > >>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list > >>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list > >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blind-sysadmins mailing list >Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Accessible NAS box software
by Steve Matzura 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

I want to upgrade my network-attached storage devices' controlling software so they can support the newer larger 3TB drives, but alas, said software is no longer accessible, so it looks like I've got to spend more money and get at least one new box, maybe two, only because of accessibility issues. I've been told Netgear's NAS boxes has accessible software, but only one person has told me this. Anyone have any experience or can recommend something? The boxes I'm replacing are Synology Cubestations, model CS411, which have served me quite well for four years. Any thoughts? I've even thought about a FreeNAS home-built system, but more computers around here I really don't want or need, and I'd spend about the same money either way on a suitable motherboard, power supply, processor and case, but then I'd have to build the thing, which in and of itself is not a problem, but I want something and I want it now, I don't want to have to tinker and tweak and fuss and fumfer for a week or two just to get everything right.

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Weastern Hard disk problem
by Ibraam Wahib 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

hello sirs please, i've big problem hope i found one help me suddenly my hard disk at home stope working and i wasn't make back-up for my data it gave me unalocated disk don't know what's wrong, any solve for this problem? what i shall use to identify the problem and how i get my data. note: hard disk is 80 gb, c is ntfs, and the another partations fat32, hard disk is data caple. wait your guide if you please thanks

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