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by Andrew Hodgson 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Hi. Test. Andrew.

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Anyone using the Juniper EX 4200 series virtual chassis
by Scott Granados 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

Hi all, Wondering if anyone is using these? How's the accessibility angle? How do they perform in general? Any issues with Junos I need to consider from an accessibility standpoint? Thanks Scott

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recovering data from linux hard drive
by John G. Heim 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

All, I need to try to recover data from a hard drive after its been reformateed. It was a linux x3 file system and it's been reformateed as x3. I find bzillions of tools that claim they can deal with that. But does any one have any experience with any of these tools?

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] [BlindLikeMe] Kapsys Signs an Agreement with Independent Living Aids
by Iamcardman2004＠aol.com 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

Doncha just love it when you ask a question and find out its been crossposted so much that you get 3 rejection notices from groups you don't even know of and a request to join another group!!! Our ILA friend should be slipper slapped by the moderator. If that foot is to dainty to get thru to him, you can bother my size 13... Mud In a message dated 11/9/2009 8:20:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Iamcardman2004(a)aol.com writes: Now for the Big Question... How Much? Mud In a message dated 11/9/2009 6:25:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, _stephen@independentstephen@in_ (mailto:stephen@independentliving.com) writes: KAPTEN, the first voice-controlled GPS, will be distributed in the USA through Independent Living Aids, retailer of blind, low vision, and hearing loss products. __http://www.prweb.http://www.http://www.prwhttp_ (http://www.prweb.http//www.http://wwhttp://w_) (_http://www.prweb.http://www.http://wwhttp://w_ (http://www.prweb.com/images_v4/quote_left.gif) ) <__http://www.independhttp://www.ind_ (http://www.independhttp//wwwhtt_) (_http://www.independhttp://wwwhttp_ (http://www.independentliving.com/) ) > The Kapten voice-controlled GPS is the most innovative product developed for the blind and low vision community in recent years. __http://www.prweb.http://www.http://www.prwhttp:_ (http://www.prweb.http//www.http://wwhttp://ww_) (_http://www.prweb.http://www.http://wwhttp://ww_ (http://www.prweb.com/images_v4/quote_right.gif) ) Jericho, NY ( <__http://www.prweb.http:_ (http://www.prweb.http_/) (_http://www.prweb.http_ (http://www.prweb.com/) ) > PRWEB) November 9, 2009 -- Kapsys, an innovative French company and inventor of the first voice-controlled GPS, announces a partnership with Independent Living Aids, one of the largest distributors of products for the blind and visually impaired in the US. This agreement is intended to develop distribution and market share in the United States. Launched in October 2008 in France, Kapten is currently distributed in western European countries such as the UK, Spain, Italy and Germany. Now, the first voice interactive GPS for smart urbanites will be available for larger networks of distribution in the US. Kapten Personal GPS Voice NavigatorKapten Personal GPS Voice Navigator “Our collaboration with Independent Living Aids sets the path of our development in the US. We are confident that we have the right partner to expand our distribution network in America”, says Marc Tastayre, Kapsys’ Sales and Marketing Director. Irwin Schneidmill, President of ILA says, “We are excited to have this opportunity to work with Kapsys. The Kapten voice-controlled GPS is the most innovative product developed for the blind and low vision community in recent years. We are confident the Kapten will be well received and anticipate tremendous sales in the US market.” The revolution § Kapsys has revolutionized the market by introducing the very first smart urban navigator with no screen. § The ultra-compact Kapten is 100% voice interactive, weighs 50 g and has a credit card format. § Kapten is more than a GPS. It’s a multi-transport navigator. § Kapten adapts to the way you get around—on foot, bicycle, motorcycle, public transportation or car. It automatically adjusts your itinerary and directs you using the navigation mode you choose with a simple voice command. § Kapten is also an MP3 player, an FM radio and a hands-free kit for your mobile phones. About Kapsys Created in 2007 by Aram Hekimian, Kapsys is a young, innovative company based in Southeast France. Kapsys designs, develops and markets voice-centric solutions for personal mobility and navigation. Kapsys launches Kapten, the first voice GPS for smart urbanites featuring: multi transport navigation, geo-tagging, audio guide, MP3 player, FM radio, and community website platform. 790, avenue du Dr Maurice Donat - Le Marco Polo A1, 06 250 Mougins Sophia Antipolis – France / Tel : +33 4 92 28 88 88 / Fax : +33 4 92 28 88 89 / <__http://www.kapsys.http_ (http://www.kapsys.htt_/) (_http://www.kapsys.http_ (http://www.kapsys.com/) ) > www.kapsys.com About Independent Living Aids, LLC Independent Living Aids, LLC is the oldest privately-held mail-order company in the United States with products for individuals who are visually impaired or blind. With over 30 years of experience providing essential aids with superb service, ila has become a trusted source of products for this community. All items offered are carefully selected, quality products sold at reasonable prices. Helping customers remain independent is the goal, and every item is chosen with that goal in mind. 200 Robbins Lane, Jericho, New York 11753 (516) 937-1848 ### Link: __http://www.prweb.http://www.http://wwhttp://www.prwhttp_ (http://www.prweb.http//www.prhttp://www.prwebhttp://w_) (_http://www.prweb.http://www.prhttp://www.prwebhttp://w_ (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/11/prweb3173004.htm) ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ _Reply to sender_ (mailto:Iamcardman2004@aol.com?subject=Re: [BlindLikeMe] Kapsys Signs an Agreement with Independent Living Aids) | _Reply to group_ (mailto:blindlikeme@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re: [BlindLikeMe] Kapsys Signs an Agreement with Independent Living Aids) _Messages in this topic_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme/message/97555;_ylc=X3oDMTM3dHZobj… MTcwNTA0MzAxMQRtc2dJZAM5NzU1NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTc3ODM1NzkE dHBjSWQDOTc1NTU-) (2) Recent Activity: * _New Members_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnZmN2dDUxBF9T… zAxMQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMjU3NzgzNTc5?o=6) 1 _Visit Your Group_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme;_ylc=X3oDMTJmb2k4ZnYyBF9TAzk3MzU5… dnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNTc3ODM1Nzk-) _Start a New Topic_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaGxwc2RkBF9TAzk… ycElkAzEwNjcyOTY4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MzAxMQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE yNTc3ODM1Nzk-) e-mail commands. to go no mail enter, and hit send on the following links. blindlikeme-nomail(a)yahoogroups.com To return, blindlikeme-normal(a)yahoogroups.com For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Like Me list just send a blank message to: blindlikeme-help(a)yahoogroups.com MARKETPLACE _Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and home_ (http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14k9ln8mc/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D… 783579815632/K=DxBgw2pgeRA4lyxxm3tNEQ/A=5898843/R=0/SIG=11kkq36go/*http://ad vision.webevents.yahoo.com/parentingzone/) (http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYnIzbGFhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwN… OQ--) Switch to: _Text-Only_ (mailto:blindlikeme-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change Delivery Format: Traditional) , _Daily Digest_ (mailto:blindlikeme-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email Delivery: Digest) • _Unsubscribe_ (mailto:blindlikeme-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe) • _Terms of Use_ (http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/) . __,_._,___

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Question
by Greg B. 13 Nov '09

13 Nov '09

Hi everyone, Is anyone using an Android based cell phone? If so we can take the discussion offline and talk about it, I am very interested in the Android phones. My email is gbobo(a)woh.rr.com. Thanks, Greg B.

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outlook 2003 and Imap with gmail
by David Mehler 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Hello, Is anyone using outlook 2003 as an imap client to access their gmail? I'm getting ready to reload some .pst files from backup and want to set it back up. My problem from before and it occurred multiple times though never consistently. I have messages organized in to folders even though they are all in the "all messages" container, is there a way to clear that? Periodically an outlook automatic inbox cleaner would run and messages that were in my inbox were removed. The messages themselves were not as they were still in "All messages" folder, but they're presence in the inbox was gone. Does anyone know how to turn this off? Also, the customer experience improvement program links? Thanks. Dave.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] [BlindLikeMe] Kapsys Signs an Agreement with Independent Living Aids
by Iamcardman2004＠aol.com 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Now for the Big Question... How Much? Mud In a message dated 11/9/2009 6:25:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, stephen(a)independentliving.com writes: KAPTEN, the first voice-controlled GPS, will be distributed in the USA through Independent Living Aids, retailer of blind, low vision, and hearing loss products. _http://www.prweb.http://www.http://wwhttp://w_ (http://www.prweb.com/images_v4/quote_left.gif) <_http://www.independhttp://wwwhtt_ (http://www.independentliving.com/) > The Kapten voice-controlled GPS is the most innovative product developed for the blind and low vision community in recent years. _http://www.prweb.http://www.http://wwhttp://ww_ (http://www.prweb.com/images_v4/quote_right.gif) Jericho, NY ( <_http://www.prweb.http_ (http://www.prweb.com/) > PRWEB) November 9, 2009 -- Kapsys, an innovative French company and inventor of the first voice-controlled GPS, announces a partnership with Independent Living Aids, one of the largest distributors of products for the blind and visually impaired in the US. This agreement is intended to develop distribution and market share in the United States. Launched in October 2008 in France, Kapten is currently distributed in western European countries such as the UK, Spain, Italy and Germany. Now, the first voice interactive GPS for smart urbanites will be available for larger networks of distribution in the US. Kapten Personal GPS Voice NavigatorKapten Personal GPS Voice Navigator “Our collaboration with Independent Living Aids sets the path of our development in the US. We are confident that we have the right partner to expand our distribution network in America”, says Marc Tastayre, Kapsys’ Sales and Marketing Director. Irwin Schneidmill, President of ILA says, “We are excited to have this opportunity to work with Kapsys. The Kapten voice-controlled GPS is the most innovative product developed for the blind and low vision community in recent years. We are confident the Kapten will be well received and anticipate tremendous sales in the US market.” The revolution § Kapsys has revolutionized the market by introducing the very first smart urban navigator with no screen. § The ultra-compact Kapten is 100% voice interactive, weighs 50 g and has a credit card format. § Kapten is more than a GPS. It’s a multi-transport navigator. § Kapten adapts to the way you get around—on foot, bicycle, motorcycle, public transportation or car. It automatically adjusts your itinerary and directs you using the navigation mode you choose with a simple voice command. § Kapten is also an MP3 player, an FM radio and a hands-free kit for your mobile phones. About Kapsys Created in 2007 by Aram Hekimian, Kapsys is a young, innovative company based in Southeast France. Kapsys designs, develops and markets voice-centric solutions for personal mobility and navigation. Kapsys launches Kapten, the first voice GPS for smart urbanites featuring: multi transport navigation, geo-tagging, audio guide, MP3 player, FM radio, and community website platform. 790, avenue du Dr Maurice Donat - Le Marco Polo A1, 06 250 Mougins Sophia Antipolis – France / Tel : +33 4 92 28 88 88 / Fax : +33 4 92 28 88 89 / <_http://www.kapsys.htt_ (http://www.kapsys.com/) > www.kapsys.com About Independent Living Aids, LLC Independent Living Aids, LLC is the oldest privately-held mail-order company in the United States with products for individuals who are visually impaired or blind. With over 30 years of experience providing essential aids with superb service, ila has become a trusted source of products for this community. All items offered are carefully selected, quality products sold at reasonable prices. Helping customers remain independent is the goal, and every item is chosen with that goal in mind. 200 Robbins Lane, Jericho, New York 11753 (516) 937-1848 ### Link: _http://www.prweb.http://www.prhttp://www.prwebhttp://w_ (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/11/prweb3173004.htm) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ _Reply to sender_ (mailto:stephen@independentliving.com?subject=Kapsys Signs an Agreement with Independent Living Aids) | _Reply to group_ (mailto:blindlikeme@yahoogroups.com?subject=Kapsys Signs an Agreement with Independent Living Aids) _Messages in this topic_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme/message/97555;_ylc=X3oDMTM3MTJyaz… MTcwNTA0MzAxMQRtc2dJZAM5NzU1NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTc3NzY3MjUE dHBjSWQDOTc1NTU-) (1) Recent Activity: * _New Members_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJncnZyaDVpBF9T… zAxMQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMjU3Nzc2NzI1?o=6) 1 _Visit Your Group_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcDZlNWRrBF9TAzk3MzU5… dnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNTc3NzY3MjU-) _Start a New Topic_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindlikeme/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdG8wMmo0BF9TAzk… ycElkAzEwNjcyOTY4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MzAxMQRzZWMDZnRyBH NsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTc3NzY3MjU-) e-mail commands. to go no mail enter, and hit send on the following links. blindlikeme-nomail(a)yahoogroups.com To return, blindlikeme-normal(a)yahoogroups.com For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Like Me list just send a blank message to: blindlikeme-help(a)yahoogroups.com MARKETPLACE _Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other_ (http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14k87pfpu/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D… 783925/L=/B=snTCMUPDhEo-/J=1257776725514957/K=S5RnycLd7jYFZTziRPTSOQ/A=56973 81/R=0/SIG=11eaa5dke/*http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mompowergroup/) (http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZG9xaDd0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwN… NQ--) Switch to: _Text-Only_ (mailto:blindlikeme-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change Delivery Format: Traditional) , _Daily Digest_ (mailto:blindlikeme-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email Delivery: Digest) • _Unsubscribe_ (mailto:blindlikeme-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe) • _Terms of Use_ (http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/) . __,_._,___

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Microsoft SCCM 2007
by Ryan Shugart 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Hi all: A few weeks ago I asked about the accessibility of SCCM 2007. Well in case anyone's interested, I've had the last week to mess around with it, and the good news is that its very accessible, just the standard MMC treeview/listview structure. The one problem I've found accessibilitywise is that there are a lot of unlabled buttons, the type you tab to and your screen reader just says "button." There is no text lables, and even sighted SCCM admins get frustrated over these because they have no way of knowing what the icons represent. So others share the paine, but still naughty naughty Microsoft. The other thing to note as that the app is extremely slow. Its one of the slowest MMC apps I've seen. Running the Configuration Manager console on the SCCM server itself, you need to wait two or three seconds after down arrowing through the tree view before the view refreshes and you can continue moving. I'm not enough of an SCCM expert to know why, but I do know the console talks directly to the backend SQL database and not to the SCCM server, so perhaps pulling info out of SQL is slow. I wouldn't think so but hey. So for screen reader users, you hit your down arrow, and your screen reader may read the wrong item. You need to down arrow, wait a few seconds, then hit your read current command, I'm familiar with Window-Eyes so for that product I use speak summary. You need to also watch expanding and collapsing brantches in the tree, because sometimes you'll hit right arrow to expand a branch, then down arrow to go into the branch you just expanded, accept the branch hasn't expanded yet so you will be further down in the tree than you think, hopefully that makes sense. So, keyboard navigation is frustrating, but doable if you are just very slow about it. I can't wait to run this app over our company's WAN (that's sarcasm right there.) I'm stil learning the product, so there are likely faster ways to get around I don't know about yet. And my current project is to see how difficult it will be to distribute Window-Eyes using SCCM, so far looks relatively easy, for an SCCM admin. Ryan

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Microsoft SCCM 2007
by Ryan Shugart 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Hi all: A few weeks ago I asked about the accessibility of SCCM 2007. Well in case anyone's interested, I've had the last week to mess around with it, and the good news is that its very accessible, just the standard MMC treeview/listview structure. The one problem I've found accessibilitywise is that there are a lot of unlabled buttons, the type you tab to and your screen reader just says "button." There is no text lables, and even sighted SCCM admins get frustrated over these because they have no way of knowing what the icons represent. So others share the paine, but still naughty naughty Microsoft. The other thing to note as that the app is extremely slow. Its one of the slowest MMC apps I've seen. Running the Configuration Manager console on the SCCM server itself, you need to wait two or three seconds after down arrowing through the tree view before the view refreshes and you can continue moving. I'm not enough of an SCCM expert to know why, but I do know the console talks directly to the backend SQL database and not to the SCCM server, so perhaps pulling info out of SQL is slow. I wouldn't think so but hey. So for screen reader users, you hit your down arrow, and your screen reader may read the wrong item. You need to down arrow, wait a few seconds, then hit your read current command, I'm familiar with Window-Eyes so for that product I use speak summary. You need to also watch expanding and collapsing brantches in the tree, because sometimes you'll hit right arrow to expand a branch, then down arrow to go into the branch you just expanded, accept the branch hasn't expanded yet so you will be further down in the tree than you think, hopefully that makes sense. So, keyboard navigation is frustrating, but doable if you are just very slow about it. I can't wait to run this app over our company's WAN (that's sarcasm right there.) I'm stil learning the product, so there are likely faster ways to get around I don't know about yet. And my current project is to see how difficult it will be to distribute Window-Eyes using SCCM, so far looks relatively easy, for an SCCM admin. Ryan

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windows 7, xpm, and jfw
by Philip 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Hi. I tried out windows 7 beta, but my system is far too old to support the windows virtual pc feature. I have a few questions. 1. when running applications using xpm, do you have to install adaptive programs such as jfw also under xpm, or will the adaptive software running under windows 7 still work with applications running in xpm? The reason I am asking, I read an article that seems to indicate that applications running in xpm, communicate with windows 7 via rdp. Secondly, I work for an organization that teaches visually impaired students to use computers. we will be adding windows 7 to the mix very soon. Since we need to teach xp, vista and windows 7, along with office 2003, 2007 and eventually 2010, this gives us 9 possible combinations. The question is, can xp and/or vista be installed say 3 times under windows 7, each running a different version of office? Many thanks. Phil

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