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by Eigeldinger Simon 09 Jan '20

09 Jan '20

Thanks.

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Re: Office 365 2 factor authentication
by Jason White 09 Jan '20

09 Jan '20

I don't have administrative access to Office 365, but I did notice that there at least used to be a PowerShell solution: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/blogs/office365/powershell-enablee… You may be able to adapt this if you don't want to apply it to all users. On 1/8/20, 18:07, "Anatoliy Shudrya" <anatoliyshudrya(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Ryan, Unfortunately, some areas of admin center still work better with old Internet Explore. I recall my last experience just a few days ago. I needed to change billing notifications email. First tried Firefox, no luck, then tried Chrome, still wasn't getting anyware. After falling to the last resort of using IE, I was able to find the section and made necessary changes. It's interesting, sometimes the navigation menu does not get read by neither screen reader and the right-side configurations work okay, and sometimes it's vice versa, the navigation menu works good with screen readers and the configuration side glitching. I even had to play the game of turning on and turning off the old/new admin center to get the job done. Well, I probably don't work enough in admin center to find the ultimate combination and that sweet spot. New Edge chromium was still pretty rough when I tried it several month ago. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 1:37 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar(a)microsoft.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Office 365 2 factor authentication Troy: I'd recommend not using the admin center with Internet Explorer. I'd either use Google Chrome or the new Edge Chromium (not the old Edge) with either JAWS or NVDA. In all honesty, you should be moving away from IE unless there's a site that won't work without it. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Troy Hergert <thergert(a)vision-forward.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 11:00 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Blind-sysadmins] Office 365 2 factor authentication Hello, I'm having difficulty in the office 365 admin center. I have been unable to turn on multi factor authentication for users with my screen reader. I know where the settings are located and I can bring up the users page but there seems to be no way a screen reader can find the controls to a enable or enforce 2 factor authentication. I use jaws with Internet explorer. In the admin center, I go to active users, more settings, multi-factor authentication setup, click the check box for a user. But then there is no way to locate the enable or enforce controls. Has anyone been able to manage this feature in office 365 with a screen reader? Thanks. ### Troy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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starting a career in IT
by Mike Fulton 08 Jan '20

08 Jan '20

Hello, I have been subscribed to this list for quite some time but haven't posted much. My name is Mike, and I graduated with a B.S. degree in IT about a year and a half ago. I have been struggling to get a job in IT to start my career. I am now in the process of studying for my CompTIA A+ certification, and then I'm going to start studying for MCSA. I was fortunate enough to ge able to get these costs covered by my state rehab agency. I have a few questions about starting my career, and am mainly looking for pointers, tips, tricks, etc. Would you agree that I'm getting the correct certs? My goal is to specialise in sysadmin or network admin. What general tips, tricks, and pointers do you have? What screen reader have you found works best to have on a thumb drive for accessing other systems? What other tools and techniques have you found useful? Any help and info you can provide is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mike

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Microsoft Teams help
by Andrew Hodgson 07 Jan '20

07 Jan '20

Hi, Moving from Slack to Teams. Am getting on with the interface but wondered if anyone else was using it? I am members of a few different teams and I am struggling to work out what I need to read or not at the start of the day, i.e, unread messages. Also I am not sure exactly what is going on in the left hand pane where I can switch between teams and direct messages. Any idea of the best way of doing this? Thanks. Andrew.

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not recieving digest e-mails
by startrektech＠techie.com 25 Dec '19

25 Dec '19

hi. not receiving any e-mails or confirmations. can the admin please make sure that I am not bouncing. also with windows server, wondering, with windows 10, which control panel items will be moving from control panel to settings for windows 10, and also windows server.also what other accessible software tools do you use to remote into other systems and to connect other machines, servers, and other products. thanks.ps: and what screen readers works with those tools or products.

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Samsung's Mac Address Vendor prefix?
by David Mehler 16 Dec '19

16 Dec '19

Hello, Does anyone know if Samsung has got a new Mac address vendor prefix? I just checked my router and noticed something my s7 and a new s9 has a completely different vendor prefix. In the case of my s7 it is: 4C:66:41 while the s9 is: 10:98:C3 Just curious. Thanks. Dave.

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Re: nvdaremote.com down
by Eigeldinger Simon 13 Dec '19

13 Dec '19

As did his other software projects like chicken nugget and the qube. No announcement or whatever. Just stopping. Oh well. Maybe the main NVDA development team might work on a implementation in newer nvda main releases. at least according to one ticket i have read though i have no url at the moment. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2019 15:36 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: nvdaremote.com down Hi, This always seems to be the problem with the software that this individual (Chris) works on, and is why I never used the software after I found out that he wasn't making the server available. I guess we are now stuck with hosting our own unofficial server. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Jackie McBride [abletec(a)gmail.com] Sent: 12 December 2019 13:36 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: nvdaremote.com down Domain seems to have expired, in fact. Nice! On 12/12/19, Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who where using the remote relay server on nvdaremote.com. > The website seems to be offline for a few days now. > I guess that also might stay that way. > No updates since september 2018. > > Greetings, > Simon > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Simon Eigeldinger > Informatik > Nebengebäude 1, OG1 > > [Hohenems_logo]Stadt Hohenems > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 > 6845 Hohenems > T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at > > Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur > für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request(a)freelists.org with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brighter-vision.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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nvdaremote.com down
by Eigeldinger Simon 12 Dec '19

12 Dec '19

Hi all, For those who where using the remote relay server on nvdaremote.com. The website seems to be offline for a few days now. I guess that also might stay that way. No updates since september 2018. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 [Hohenems_logo]Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.

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Re: nvdaremote.com down
by Eigeldinger Simon 12 Dec '19

12 Dec '19

btw. here is one of the relay servers. i guess it is still active: https://jc-hosting.me/nvdaremote.php If someone needs the repos: Server: https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/ Though i guess thats not the official server. Addon: https://github.com/nvdaremote/nvdaremote/ Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jackie McBride <abletec(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2019 14:37 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: nvdaremote.com down Domain seems to have expired, in fact. Nice! On 12/12/19, Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who where using the remote relay server on nvdaremote.com. > The website seems to be offline for a few days now. > I guess that also might stay that way. > No updates since september 2018. > > Greetings, > Simon > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Simon Eigeldinger > Informatik > Nebengebäude 1, OG1 > > [Hohenems_logo]Stadt Hohenems > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 > 6845 Hohenems > T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at > > Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur > für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request(a)freelists.org with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brighter-vision.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: NVDA remote
by Anatoliy Shudrya 06 Dec '19

06 Dec '19

Hi, I don’t want to resurrect old topic, just wanted to share my findings. I was able to configure NVDA remote on a server without sound card and get it to work. On a controlling machine. I have configured NVDA remote as a server, control another machine, generated key, saved key, okay. On a remote machine, installed NVDA remote, configured the machine as client, allow this machine to be controlled. Pasted key entered host name, okay. Went to NVDA remote options and checked enable auto startup/auto-connect. In the NVDA options, I have enabled NVDA to start on the logon screen and after logon. F11 does not work no matter what. Windows firewalls off, it says controlling remote server but nothing happens. I am on the same local network, not even via VPN or anything like that. The NVDA 2019 is working now over RDP. When everything is configured to start automatically, all I have to do, is just connect via RDP and I have working NVDA. In my case I didn’t have to start audio service and no sound card on server 2008. Basically establish NVDA remote connection first and then RDP in. It’s not that bad if you don’t have access to the JAWS screen reader. I am happy to see it working via remote desktop protocol. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:17 AM To: Anatoliy Shudrya <anatoliyshudrya(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA remote Hi, Now i see which problem you seem to have. When you have some connection you go to the nvda menu and go to tools and then to nvda remote. then you go to options. then you can enable to start the remote plugin at start up of nvda and connect to a server. then enter the host and a defined key. that should fix it. Greetings, Simon Am 30.11.2019 um 20:13 schrieb Anatoliy Shudrya: > Hi, > > I have tested again via VPN, waited for about 15 mins, the client still did not connect to server. > > Tested on a local network, connected no problem and was able to control remote machine within couple of seconds. > > It is really inconvenient to start NVDA on the remote machine, navigate to remote control and generate new key every time I’d like to control machine remotely. Not only that, I need to think of a way how to transfer the key to the client machine. Every time NVDA restarted, it loses its generated key, bummer! > > This kind of setup does not seem to be very practical for me. I probably better off be using team viewer or LogMeIn when JAWS and remote desktop gives me hard time. > > I still want to test setup without sound card. I have one old 2008 server at work. I will RDP in, use JAWS 2020 to configure NVDA remote settings and then try to connect with client. I will see where it gets me next week. > > So far, JAWS is the king in remote controlling. They even fixed where you don’t have to turn off and turn on JAWS on the remote machine when ever you reconnect, simply Awesome! > > Thank you Simon for the NVDA remote tips. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:59 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; > Anatoliy Shudrya <anatoliyshudrya(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA remote > > Hi, > > Should actually work as you describe. > What i have noticed is that NVDA needs a longer time to connect when using win 10 or server 2016 and 2019. > I had to wait around 30 seconds up to 1 minute to get a connection. > > Greetings, > Simon > > > Am 30.11.2019 um 07:18 schrieb Anatoliy Shudrya: >> Hi, >> >> I have ran a quick test this evening. >> >> VPN into my work network, windows firewalls off. Installed NVDA remote on my office PC, generated key, selected server option. >> >> On my home PC, installed NVDA remote, selected client, control remote computer, okay, connected successful. >> >> When I press F11, it says controlling remote computer, but nothing happens with my keyboard. I tried to tab, error keys, windows key, just nothing. Am I missing something? I press F11 one more time and it says controlling local computer. >> >> Scripts and share drive sounds like a great idea, but I don’t work very often deploying new servers or remotely controlling desktops. Just small projects here and there, mostly with physical servers/desktops. I guess wanted to try out NVDA remote options and experience out of the box experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> >> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 12:05 PM >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; >> mattias jonsson <mj(a)mjw.se> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA remote >> >> Hi, >> >> On my servers we also don't have sound. >> I let my sighted friends install NVDA. >> I also made a script that installs nvda silently. >> then i let copy the nvda icon on the public desktop which loads the shared nvda settings from a server so you can press a shortcut when logged in which automatically connects to the nvda remote server. >> >> Greetings, >> Simon >> >> >> Am 29.11.2019 um 18:15 schrieb mattias jonsson: >>> My vm dont have any sound drivers >>> But you have to do: >>> Net start audiosrv >>> >>> Skickades från >>> E-post<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A% >>> 2 >>> F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252 >>> F >>> &data=02%7C01%7C%7C701caaf296034a3626f808d775b6ae5a%7C84df9e7fe9 >>> f >>> 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637107299776371123&sdata=5rvN8ra >>> P >>> F60pjWt8Misigyoimnh9toH6OwW%2F7ukSQU4%3D&reserved=0 >>> %2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7 >>> C >>> % >>> 7C56971eff598944edd82008d77507a8ce%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa >>> a >>> % >>> 7C1%7C0%7C637106548060844057&sdata=IC%2BlrdwU8l97rLDf7Knc%2FvYUg >>> d L GALK9307rJ1pE7HA%3D&reserved=0> för Windows 10 >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Från: Anatoliy Shudrya <anatoliyshudrya(a)hotmail.com> >>> Skickat: Friday, November 29, 2019 6:00:04 PM >>> Till: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Ämne: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA remote >>> >>> I was going to try NVDA remote in my recent server 2019 setup/builds but wasn't sure if it will work without sound card on a server. With JAWS, I setup JAWS on the server, RDP in and continue my work, really awesome. With NVDA remote, it seamed to have way too many steps to setup and connect to. >>> >>> Does anybody know if NVDA remote will work without sound card/drivers on the remote server? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mattias jonsson <mj(a)mjw.se> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:25 AM >>> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA remote >>> >>> Yes i Think i have asked this Before But lets say you have a windows >>> vps I have a server 2012 vps with NVDA 2018.2 And try to get the >>> impossible nvdaremote to work I set allow this pc to be controled on >>> the server 2012 And set Control Another machine on my laptop >>> Relay: nvdaremote.com >>> I Think i can connect >>> But cant do nothing.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Skickades från >>> E-post<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A% >>> 2 >>> F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252 >>> F >>> &data=02%7C01%7C%7C701caaf296034a3626f808d775b6ae5a%7C84df9e7fe9 >>> f >>> 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637107299776381128&sdata=xMzmV3Y >>> 9 >>> kakJF6IZkUi%2B5Mtp1lYrFraPRed6g62YIYw%3D&reserved=0 >>> %2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7 >>> C >>> % >>> 7C56971eff598944edd82008d77507a8ce%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa >>> a >>> % >>> 7C1%7C0%7C637106548060844057&sdata=IC%2BlrdwU8l97rLDf7Knc%2FvYUg >>> d L GALK9307rJ1pE7HA%3D&reserved=0> för Windows 10 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>

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