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IDE recommendation
by John G Heim 06 Feb '20

06 Feb '20

I am writing up some documentation for students who are developing code on a linux cluster I maintain. Any recommendations for multi-platform IDE that I should include? The only one I've got so far is microsoft Visual Studio Code. -- John G. Heim; jheim(a)math.wisc.edu; 608-263-4189

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espeakup on Ubuntu 18.04
by David Mehler 03 Feb '20

03 Feb '20

Hello, Does anyone have Espeakup working on Ubuntu 18.04lts in a cli? I've got Gui speech going with Orca and Voxin. I'd like to get espeakup and speakup or yasr or a console screen reader going so that when I flip between graphical and cli tty I'll always have speech. I'm getting an installation error with espeakup, this is on a fully updated Ubuntu 18.04lts amd64 virtual machine. #apt-get install espeakup Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: espeak espeak-data libespeak1 libportaudio2 The following NEW packages will be installed: espeak espeak-data espeakup libespeak1 libportaudio2 0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1,223 kB of archives. After this operation, 3,057 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 libportaudio2 amd64 19.6.0-1 [64.6 kB] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 espeak-data amd64 1.48.04+dfsg-5 [934 kB] Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 libespeak1 amd64 1.48.04+dfsg-5 [145 kB] Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 espeak amd64 1.48.04+dfsg-5 [61.6 kB] Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 espeakup amd64 1:0.80-9 [17.7 kB] Fetched 1,223 kB in 1s (1,198 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package libportaudio2:amd64. (Reading database ... 254811 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libportaudio2_19.6.0-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libportaudio2:amd64 (19.6.0-1) ... Selecting previously unselected package espeak-data:amd64. Preparing to unpack .../espeak-data_1.48.04+dfsg-5_amd64.deb ... Unpacking espeak-data:amd64 (1.48.04+dfsg-5) ... Selecting previously unselected package libespeak1:amd64. Preparing to unpack .../libespeak1_1.48.04+dfsg-5_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libespeak1:amd64 (1.48.04+dfsg-5) ... Selecting previously unselected package espeak. Preparing to unpack .../espeak_1.48.04+dfsg-5_amd64.deb ... Unpacking espeak (1.48.04+dfsg-5) ... Selecting previously unselected package espeakup. Preparing to unpack .../espeakup_1%3a0.80-9_amd64.deb ... Unpacking espeakup (1:0.80-9) ... Setting up libportaudio2:amd64 (19.6.0-1) ... Setting up espeak-data:amd64 (1.48.04+dfsg-5) ... Setting up libespeak1:amd64 (1.48.04+dfsg-5) ... Setting up espeak (1.48.04+dfsg-5) ... Setting up espeakup (1:0.80-9) ... Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/sound.target.wants/espeakup.service → /lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service. update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults Job for espeakup.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status espeakup.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. invoke-rc.d: initscript espeakup, action "start" failed. ● espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2020-02-02 20:37:15 EST; 10ms ago Docs: man:espeakup(8) Process: 1695 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup -V ${VOICE} (code=exited, status=2) dpkg: error processing package espeakup (--configure): installed espeakup package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 Processing triggers for systemd (237-3ubuntu10.33) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2ubuntu0.1) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-21) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.27-3ubuntu1) ... Errors were encountered while processing: espeakup E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave.

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Re: Visual Studio Code accessibility (was Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Microsoft C+AI accessibility team will be at CSUN)
by Jason White 01 Feb '20

01 Feb '20

Chromium accessibility under Linux with Orca is working reasonably well at this point, but it hasn't been officially released, and I don't know whether Electron (used by Visual Studio Code) has caught up yet with the latest Linux accessibility-related changes. You may have to try it with the very latest builds of Electron. I tried VS Code recently on a Windows machine with JAWS. One difficulty that I discovered is that even with word-wrap turned on, if I write long lines of text in the editor, the up/down arrow keys treat each logical line as though it were a single "physical" line (i.e., with no soft line breaks). This makes navigation within long lines awkward. Obviously, when writing Markdown, HTML, LaTeX, etc., one doesn't wish to press enter to end each line. There may be a configuration option that I'm missing. I tried setting word wrap to 80 characters, and also to the size of the viewport, with identical results. On 1/31/20, 09:42, "John G Heim" <jheim(a)math.wisc.edu> wrote: Well, I want to make it clear I am not trying to tell Microsoft how to run it's business but your reasons rely on things that are factually incorrect. Orca is not immature. It is older and approximately as stable as voiceover and nvda. Also, the linux programming cummunity is huge. I don't know the percentage of developers there are for each platform, Windows, Linux, and Mac but I would be shocked if Linux was far behind Windows and even more shocked if it wasn't way ahead of Mac. The internet infrastructure in this country runs on Linux. Every super computer in the world runs Linux. That's where development is heading. On 1/30/20 5:20 PM, Ryan Shugart wrote: > Hi John: > Thanks for your feedback. At this point, we are not targeting accessibility on Linux due to the low usage numbers, and the relative immaturity of the Orca screen reader itself when compared to VoiceOver on mac, or NVDA and JAWS and Narrator on Windows. You can try VS Code on either Mac or Windows and we are actively working on accessibility on both of those platforms, and we have people using the product effectively in both environments. We are also monitoring Linux usage and as it goes up and as the AT solutions mature more, we will reinvestigate making VS Code work there as well. > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: John G Heim <jheim(a)math.wisc.edu> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:07 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar(a)microsoft.com> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Microsoft C+AI accessibility team will be at CSUN > > I just took part in a usability survey for Visual Studio Code. I wasn't able to get any further than task 1, installation on my Ubuntu Linux system. VSC installed okay on Ubuntu but it seemed completely unusable with the orca screen reader. > > > I haven't found a good IDE for linux yet. > > On 1/30/20 11:56 AM, Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins wrote: >> Hello everyone: >> As in years past, the Microsoft Cloud + AI accessibility team will be at CSUN this year in Anaheim, CA from March 10TH through the 13TH. We won't be running any presentations this year, although we encourage anyone going to check out the many presentations Microsoft is running. As before, I'm extending the offer, if anyone wishes to talk with us about any issues they are running into with C+AI products, please let me know and we can set up lunch or some other time to chat. Products we work with include: >> * Visual Studio >> * Azure Devops >> * Azure >> * Dynamics >> * System Center accept for System Center Configuration Manager >> * Identity related products including consumer Microsoft Account and work or school Azure Active Directory. >> We also have some influence over Windows, including some of the classic Windows Server administration tools such as the MMC-based admin tools. >> If you want to set something up, please reach out to me offlist and we'll make something happen. >> Thanks. >> Ryan >> >> Ryan Shugart >> Program Manager II, Cloud+AI Accessibility Microsoft Corporation >> 425-705-1262 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Microsoft C+AI accessibility team will be at CSUN
by Ryan Shugart 31 Jan '20

31 Jan '20

Hello everyone: As in years past, the Microsoft Cloud + AI accessibility team will be at CSUN this year in Anaheim, CA from March 10TH through the 13TH. We won't be running any presentations this year, although we encourage anyone going to check out the many presentations Microsoft is running. As before, I'm extending the offer, if anyone wishes to talk with us about any issues they are running into with C+AI products, please let me know and we can set up lunch or some other time to chat. Products we work with include: * Visual Studio * Azure Devops * Azure * Dynamics * System Center accept for System Center Configuration Manager * Identity related products including consumer Microsoft Account and work or school Azure Active Directory. We also have some influence over Windows, including some of the classic Windows Server administration tools such as the MMC-based admin tools. If you want to set something up, please reach out to me offlist and we'll make something happen. Thanks. Ryan Ryan Shugart Program Manager II, Cloud+AI Accessibility Microsoft Corporation 425-705-1262

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VMware Horizon Client
by Jared Stofflett 28 Jan '20

28 Jan '20

I'm a software developer and am interviewing at a company that uses VMware Horizon Client to provide virtual desktops where development is done. Looking at the VPAT did not fill me with confidence that this is something I could use. Does anyone have experience using the client to connect to Windows machines using either NVDA or Jaws as a screen reader?

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Re: EasyBCD
by Eigeldinger Simon 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Hi Ibraam, I don't understand why you want to have the live media on the hd. whats the sense of that? that you could use the cd drive? You also might be interested in using a USB Stick that contains the live media plus a persistent partition to save programs and documents. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Jänner 2020 16:19 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: EasyBCD hi Simon i don't want to install it i want to add live linux to boot instad of booting from USP flash or dvd, like we do in winPe thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:16 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: EasyBCD Hi, Most distributions have a installer themself. that works pretty well. which distribution of linux do you want to install? Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Jänner 2020 01:05 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] EasyBCD hello dears I usually use easy BCD to add WinPe to boot menu. instead of booting from DVD or usp ... could I do the same with live Linux? I mean extract live Linux to HD, then ad it to boot menu and boot to live Linux directly from hd instead of using usp? I'm installing windows-32 bit. thanks very much. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Unable to access a Asus router web ui
by Jason White 16 Jan '20

16 Jan '20

If the router supports OpenWRT, you could install that firmware and then configure everything via a Web interface or with an ssh connection on the command line. On 1/13/20, 03:25, "Barry Toner" <barry(a)tonermail.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I keep getting this message, "This AiCloud account has been locked. “ Wired and wireless connections are working fine, I just can’t even get to the authentication page and need to admin this router. Initial online searches seem to suggest something about WAN http Vs https connections. Trying either or with the Gateway address, and several Asus aliases aren’t loading the admin page. Any suggestions? Resetting the router and setting it back up is very much a last resort…. Cheers, Barry. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: EasyBCD
by Eigeldinger Simon 15 Jan '20

15 Jan '20

Hi Ibraam, I don't know. though you might try it. But first backup the PC before you touch anything or try it on a spare pc if you have one around. Also the command that Jason provided might be useful under linux to change the boot order. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Jänner 2020 23:35 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: EasyBCD hi simon my computer need sighted to rearange boot menu. i found this program able to do this for windows-pe so, thought that could be done with live linux. i don't recommend using dvd, as it read only i can't save seetings or document inside it. so, could i use easy BCD to boot live linux directly from hd throw boot menu? thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:45 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: EasyBCD Hi Ibraam, I don't understand why you want to have the live media on the hd. whats the sense of that? that you could use the cd drive? You also might be interested in using a USB Stick that contains the live media plus a persistent partition to save programs and documents. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Jänner 2020 16:19 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: EasyBCD hi Simon i don't want to install it i want to add live linux to boot instad of booting from USP flash or dvd, like we do in winPe thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:16 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: EasyBCD Hi, Most distributions have a installer themself. that works pretty well. which distribution of linux do you want to install? Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ibraam Wahib <ibraam.wahib(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Jänner 2020 01:05 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] EasyBCD hello dears I usually use easy BCD to add WinPe to boot menu. instead of booting from DVD or usp ... could I do the same with live Linux? I mean extract live Linux to HD, then ad it to boot menu and boot to live Linux directly from hd instead of using usp? I'm installing windows-32 bit. thanks very much. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Unable to access a Asus router web ui
by Barry Toner 14 Jan '20

14 Jan '20

Hi all, I keep getting this message, "This AiCloud account has been locked. “ Wired and wireless connections are working fine, I just can’t even get to the authentication page and need to admin this router. Initial online searches seem to suggest something about WAN http Vs https connections. Trying either or with the Gateway address, and several Asus aliases aren’t loading the admin page. Any suggestions? Resetting the router and setting it back up is very much a last resort…. Cheers, Barry.

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Office 365 2 factor authentication
by Troy Hergert 14 Jan '20

14 Jan '20

Hello, I'm having difficulty in the office 365 admin center. I have been unable to turn on multi factor authentication for users with my screen reader. I know where the settings are located and I can bring up the users page but there seems to be no way a screen reader can find the controls to a enable or enforce 2 factor authentication. I use jaws with Internet explorer. In the admin center, I go to active users, more settings, multi-factor authentication setup, click the check box for a user. But then there is no way to locate the enable or enforce controls. Has anyone been able to manage this feature in office 365 with a screen reader? Thanks. ### Troy

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