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Re: JAWS and Outlook very sluggish
by Guerra Access Technology LLC | Stephen Guerra 06 Dec '18

06 Dec '18

Troy, What version of JAWS are you running and outlook 2016? Respectfully, Stephen Guerra, President Guerra Access Technology Training LLC Blind, Low-Vision and Deaf-Blind Authorized State of Minnesota Vendor for Technology Training Contact by phone, Guerra Access Technology Training LLC, 507.722.2864 Email Guerra Access Technology Training LLC Visit Guerra Access Technology Training on the Web Disclaimer: The Information contained within this correspondence is solely the property of Guerra Access Technology Training LLC (GATT). This message may contain confidential information and should not be distributed without the written consent of Guerra access Technology Training LLC. -----Original Message----- From: Troy Hergert <thergert(a)vision-forward.org> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 1:59 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] JAWS and Outlook very sluggish Hi, Is anyone else encountering sluggishness with jaws when using office 365 Outlook 2016 desktop version? Two jaws users both noticed the same thing in my organization. Outlook moves a little bit better with nvda but not much. I have disabled add-ins for Skype for business, and Zoom video conferencing, but this is not helped. It takes about 4 seconds to open a message before jaws can begin reading it. Delays are also encountered when changing folders and browsing for files for attachments. I'm wondering if this is a screen reader issue or Office 365. Thanks. ### _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: JAWS and Outlook very sluggish
by vic.pereira＠ssc-spc.gc.ca 06 Dec '18

06 Dec '18

Greetings I am using Outlook in two situations. First when connected to Exchange, I noticed that JFW will stop talking from time to time. I suspect this is due to our WAN connection speeds being variable at best. Second, I am using Outlook to connect to email services using IMAP. For a while it was sluggish and JFW also stopped talking every now and then. In both scenarios JFW did begin talking again. As for the latter, the ISP tech came and found issues with the service. After correcting the cabling issues, attaching a booster and replacing the MODEM with a more up-to-date version performance improved tremendously and JFW rarely stops speaking and Outlook using IMAP seem rather robust. Vic Pereira Project Manager, Networks and End Users Branch Shared Services Canada, Government of Canada vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tel: 204-781-5046 Gestionnaire de Projet, Direction Générale des Réseaux et des Utilisateurs Finaux Services partagés Canada, Gouvernement du Canada vic.pereira(a)ssc-spc.gc.ca / Tél. : 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Troy Hergert <thergert(a)vision-forward.org> Sent: December-06-18 1:59 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] JAWS and Outlook very sluggish Hi, Is anyone else encountering sluggishness with jaws when using office 365 Outlook 2016 desktop version? Two jaws users both noticed the same thing in my organization. Outlook moves a little bit better with nvda but not much. I have disabled add-ins for Skype for business, and Zoom video conferencing, but this is not helped. It takes about 4 seconds to open a message before jaws can begin reading it. Delays are also encountered when changing folders and browsing for files for attachments. I'm wondering if this is a screen reader issue or Office 365. Thanks. ### _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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JAWS and Outlook very sluggish
by Troy Hergert 06 Dec '18

06 Dec '18

Hi, Is anyone else encountering sluggishness with jaws when using office 365 Outlook 2016 desktop version? Two jaws users both noticed the same thing in my organization. Outlook moves a little bit better with nvda but not much. I have disabled add-ins for Skype for business, and Zoom video conferencing, but this is not helped. It takes about 4 seconds to open a message before jaws can begin reading it. Delays are also encountered when changing folders and browsing for files for attachments. I'm wondering if this is a screen reader issue or Office 365. Thanks. ###

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Re: NVDA Updater Scripts for a corporate network
by Simon Eigeldinger 30 Nov '18

30 Nov '18

I am fine with the current installer, though it should have a completely silent option. Am 30.11.2018 um 18:25 schrieb Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins: > That's why the installer that exists should completely go away, and it should either use MSI directly or, more modernly, MSIX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bram Duvigneau <bram(a)bramd.nl> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:28 AM > To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA Updater Scripts for a corporate network > > Hi, > > I maintain the Chocolatey package for NVDA and yes, the silent installer is not totally silent. Have you considered opening an NVDA issue for this to come up with some kind of extra silent option? > > Bram > > > On 4-10-2018 16:29, Eigeldinger Simon wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I promised to show you how I made the NVDA Updater i use here to get our chaotic NVDA installations in order. >> Should work. >> I tried that on a small scale at the moment. >> >> Prerequisites >> >> You need: >> * NVDA installer from the NV Access website. >> * NSIS installer from https://sf.net/projects/nsis/ >> * then you need psexec from the sysinternals tools from Microsoft: >> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ >> >> The following scripts are well commented out and so that shouldn't be a problem for someone who has a little bit a knowledge of some batch commands and some general commands and NSIS files. >> Please edit them that they fit your directory structure. >> >> The files >> >> makeupdate.bat: this file creates the silent installer out of the not so silent nvda installer. >> >> --- Begin --- >> >> @echo off >> >> rem clearing the screen >> >> cls >> >> rem deleting old temporary dirs and files >> >> rmdir /q /s nvda >> del nvdainstaller.exe >> >> rem installing a portable copy to a temp dir >> >> "%cd%\nvda_.exe" --create-portable-silent --portable-path "%cd%\nvda" >> >> rem because nvda silent portable isn't all that silent we need to >> restart the local installed copy >> >> "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r >> >> rem now delete the old uninstaller because its not needed and its useless. >> >> cd nvda >> del uninstall.exe >> cd .. >> >> rem generating the realy silent installer >> >> "c:\nsis\makensis.exe" "%cd%\nvdainstaller.nsi" >> >> rem deleting old temporary dirs and files >> >> rmdir /q /s nvda >> >> --- End --- >> >> nvdainstaller.nsi: the NSIS script for the really silent installer. Also needs updating to your needs and company names and versions. >> >> --- Begin --- >> >> ;Include Modern UI >> !include "MUI2.nsh" >> >> ;Name and file >> Name "NVDA Stadt Hohenems 2018.3.2" >> OutFile "nvdainstaller.exe" >> >> ;Default installation folder >> InstallDir "c:\nvda" >> >> ;request admin privileges >> RequestExecutionLevel admin >> >> ;Version Information >> >> VIProductVersion "2018.3.2.0" >> VIAddVersionKey "ProductName" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems" >> VIAddVersionKey "Comments" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems" >> VIAddVersionKey "CompanyName" "NVAccess and Stadt Hohenems" >> VIAddVersionKey "FileDescription" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems" >> VIAddVersionKey "FileVersion" "2018.3.2.0" >> >> ;Installer Sections >> >> Section Install >> >> ; Output path >> SetOutPath "$INSTDIR" >> >> ;Files >> File /r "c:\daten\nvdaupdate\nvda\*" >> >> ; Shortcuts >> CreateShortcut "c:\users\public\desktop\NVDA.lnk" "c:\nvda\nvda_slave.exe" "launchNVDA -r -c \\emsapp101\NVDA" >> >> ;Create uninstaller >> WriteUninstaller "$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe" >> >> ;Write the uninstall keys for Windows >> WriteRegStr HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "DisplayName" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems 2018.3.2" >> WriteRegStr HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "UninstallString" '"$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe /S"' >> WriteRegDWORD HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "NoModify" 1 >> WriteRegDWORD HKLM >> "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" >> "NoRepair" 1 >> >> SectionEnd >> >> ;Uninstaller Section >> >> Section "Uninstall" >> >> Delete "$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe" >> Delete "c:\users\public\desktop\NVDA.lnk" >> RMDir /r "$INSTDIR" >> >> ; Remove registry keys >> DeleteRegKey HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" >> >> SectionEnd >> >> ;Pages >> !insertmacro MUI_PAGE_INSTFILES >> >> !insertmacro MUI_UNPAGE_INSTFILES >> >> ;Languages >> !insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGE "English" >> >> --- End --- >> >> So. Now we have the installer. >> Then we copy that stuff on a share where people have access to. we have a software distribution share. >> We copy nvdainstaller.exe and installnvda.bat there. >> >> installnvda.bat: this script installs nvda on the computer and uninstalls the old one: >> >> --- Begin --- >> >> @echo off >> >> rem clearing the screen >> >> cls >> >> rem uninstalling old nvda installed normally and previous >> installations >> >> "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\uninstall.exe" /S c:\nvda\uninstall.exe >> /S >> >> rem let's delete the manually created desktop icon >> >> del c:\users\public\desktop\nvda.lnk >> >> rem copy the nvda installer to a temp directory. >> >> xcopy /y \\emsfi101\softwaredistribution$\nvda\nvdainstaller.exe >> c:\temp\ >> >> rem install it silently. >> >> c:\temp\nvdainstaller.exe /S >> >> rem clean up the mess >> >> del c:\temp\nvdainstaller.exe >> >> --- End --- >> >> Now we just need something to launch that silent and remote installation thing from our computer: >> >> updatenvda.bat: the script that launches all that chaos. Willl sit on our admin computer: >> >> --- Begin --- >> >> @echo off >> >> rem clearing the screen >> >> cls >> >> rem installing nvda using psexec on the remote machines. pcs.txt >> contains the list of machines >> >> psexec -h -u "mydomain\myadminuser" -p mypassword @c:\nvdaupdate\pcs.txt "\\emsfi101\softwaredistribution$\nvda\installnvda.bat" >> >> rem making a pause to view the output >> >> pause >> >> --- End --- >> >> You can also log the output to a file when executing the updatenvda.bat script like that: >> >> updatenvda.bat >> updatenvda.log >> >> Should work. >> >> pcs.txt is the list of pcs on which nvda should be installed: >> >> --- Begin --- >> >> mypc01 >> mypc02 >> mypc03 >> mypc04 >> >> >> --- End --- >> >> Hope you find these scripts useful. >> Please read those scripts carefully and edit as needed. >> >> >> Greetings, >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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NVDA Updater Scripts for a corporate network
by Eigeldinger Simon 30 Nov '18

30 Nov '18

Hi all, I promised to show you how I made the NVDA Updater i use here to get our chaotic NVDA installations in order. Should work. I tried that on a small scale at the moment. Prerequisites You need: * NVDA installer from the NV Access website. * NSIS installer from https://sf.net/projects/nsis/ * then you need psexec from the sysinternals tools from Microsoft: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ The following scripts are well commented out and so that shouldn't be a problem for someone who has a little bit a knowledge of some batch commands and some general commands and NSIS files. Please edit them that they fit your directory structure. The files makeupdate.bat: this file creates the silent installer out of the not so silent nvda installer. --- Begin --- @echo off rem clearing the screen cls rem deleting old temporary dirs and files rmdir /q /s nvda del nvdainstaller.exe rem installing a portable copy to a temp dir "%cd%\nvda_.exe" --create-portable-silent --portable-path "%cd%\nvda" rem because nvda silent portable isn't all that silent we need to restart the local installed copy "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r rem now delete the old uninstaller because its not needed and its useless. cd nvda del uninstall.exe cd .. rem generating the realy silent installer "c:\nsis\makensis.exe" "%cd%\nvdainstaller.nsi" rem deleting old temporary dirs and files rmdir /q /s nvda --- End --- nvdainstaller.nsi: the NSIS script for the really silent installer. Also needs updating to your needs and company names and versions. --- Begin --- ;Include Modern UI !include "MUI2.nsh" ;Name and file Name "NVDA Stadt Hohenems 2018.3.2" OutFile "nvdainstaller.exe" ;Default installation folder InstallDir "c:\nvda" ;request admin privileges RequestExecutionLevel admin ;Version Information VIProductVersion "2018.3.2.0" VIAddVersionKey "ProductName" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems" VIAddVersionKey "Comments" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems" VIAddVersionKey "CompanyName" "NVAccess and Stadt Hohenems" VIAddVersionKey "FileDescription" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems" VIAddVersionKey "FileVersion" "2018.3.2.0" ;Installer Sections Section Install ; Output path SetOutPath "$INSTDIR" ;Files File /r "c:\daten\nvdaupdate\nvda\*" ; Shortcuts CreateShortcut "c:\users\public\desktop\NVDA.lnk" "c:\nvda\nvda_slave.exe" "launchNVDA -r -c \\emsapp101\NVDA" ;Create uninstaller WriteUninstaller "$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe" ;Write the uninstall keys for Windows WriteRegStr HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "DisplayName" "NVDA Stadt Hohenems 2018.3.2" WriteRegStr HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "UninstallString" '"$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe /S"' WriteRegDWORD HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "NoModify" 1 WriteRegDWORD HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" "NoRepair" 1 SectionEnd ;Uninstaller Section Section "Uninstall" Delete "$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe" Delete "c:\users\public\desktop\NVDA.lnk" RMDir /r "$INSTDIR" ; Remove registry keys DeleteRegKey HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\NVDAEms" SectionEnd ;Pages !insertmacro MUI_PAGE_INSTFILES !insertmacro MUI_UNPAGE_INSTFILES ;Languages !insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGE "English" --- End --- So. Now we have the installer. Then we copy that stuff on a share where people have access to. we have a software distribution share. We copy nvdainstaller.exe and installnvda.bat there. installnvda.bat: this script installs nvda on the computer and uninstalls the old one: --- Begin --- @echo off rem clearing the screen cls rem uninstalling old nvda installed normally and previous installations "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\uninstall.exe" /S c:\nvda\uninstall.exe /S rem let's delete the manually created desktop icon del c:\users\public\desktop\nvda.lnk rem copy the nvda installer to a temp directory. xcopy /y \\emsfi101\softwaredistribution$\nvda\nvdainstaller.exe c:\temp\ rem install it silently. c:\temp\nvdainstaller.exe /S rem clean up the mess del c:\temp\nvdainstaller.exe --- End --- Now we just need something to launch that silent and remote installation thing from our computer: updatenvda.bat: the script that launches all that chaos. Willl sit on our admin computer: --- Begin --- @echo off rem clearing the screen cls rem installing nvda using psexec on the remote machines. pcs.txt contains the list of machines psexec -h -u "mydomain\myadminuser" -p mypassword @c:\nvdaupdate\pcs.txt "\\emsfi101\softwaredistribution$\nvda\installnvda.bat" rem making a pause to view the output pause --- End --- You can also log the output to a file when executing the updatenvda.bat script like that: updatenvda.bat >> updatenvda.log Should work. pcs.txt is the list of pcs on which nvda should be installed: --- Begin --- mypc01 mypc02 mypc03 mypc04 --- End --- Hope you find these scripts useful. Please read those scripts carefully and edit as needed. Greetings, Simon

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reset
by Marvin Hunkin 30 Nov '18

30 Nov '18

Hi andrew. Well. Is there a way to keep all my programs and then reset, so then I don't lose them. If so, let me know how to do this. With jaws 2019. Been trying a week or two trying to get it to work. And noticed this issue. So, let me know. How to do this. Okay, well. Hope it then keeps my programs and settings. And how long will it take. A Toshiba satellite pro c-50-a 8 gb ram, intel I 7 3 quad core 2.5 ghz, 750 gb hard disk, 700 gb hidden particion. Running windows 10 1809. So, if there's a way, where it will then keep my programs, let me know. Okay, this may take a few hours, but might fix this. Marvin. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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sql management studio 2017 cannot launch
by Marvin Hunkin 30 Nov '18

30 Nov '18

Hi. using sql management studio 2017 64 bit pro, windows 10 64 bit pro Toshiba laptop. Was upgrading visual studio community 2017 15.9.1 when my machine crashed,and then had to then repair or reinstall. Tried repairing the 2015 vc++ isolated shell, and used control panel \ programs and features and then tried to click on change in that and use alt r for repair. As jaws or nvda would not read it at all. Unless I have a corrupted isolated shell. Visual studio 2017 community is working fine . now when I try to then repair sql management studio 2017. And when I launch, will post the error below. Have tried googling. But most of the proglsolutions, either repairing the isolated shell, or remove the registry items. And not really want to play around with the registry. More of a web designer or programmer and then a network systems guy. Will paste the error message below. Have tried to repair, remove and then reinstall. So any one got a fix, so I can then get it to launch. Yes, and I tried stopping the sql process in administrator settings, then starting it again, rebooted. Still get thiserror. Any one had this issue. Will paste below. Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Cannot find one or more components. Please reinstall the application. OK If any one has had this issue. Did they find a work around. Don't want to reset the os, don't want to have to load my 50 or 100 more students programming apps. Takes a few weeks. No thanks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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sql management studio 2017
by Marvin Hunkin 30 Nov '18

30 Nov '18

Hi. what I did, from a msdn forum, was downloaded the ex 86 and the x 64 bit 2017 redist for vc++ 2017. Then uinstalled those , and then did the repair for isolated shell, and using alt r, and clicked yes. But not sure if it repaired, then reinstalled the x86 and x 64 vc++ 2017, then reinstalled sql management studio 2017.19 latest stable version. And got the latest sql management studio or sql server kb update, security update and installed. So cannot still run sql managent studio. Any one ran into this issue. How to get it to work. And have tried a few things. But not working. Don't want to have to do a reset for windows 10 and then have to load my 50 or 100 programming projects, don't have three weeks to do that, last time I did a windows reset. Disability answer desk did not help. Any one able to suggest how to get this to work. Driving me nuts. Spent most of today trying to resolve this issue. What am I doing wrong. Frustrated. Have tried to help my self. But if any of you people have had a similar issue, and how it was fixed. Did try looking for a sql server and managemen studio clear utility to totally clear it out of my system. But could not find one. Just frustrated. Don't know why, was updating to visual studio 2017.9.0 the other week and it decided to crash, then had to do a repair. Marvin. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: Accessing shared calendars in Outlook 2016
by Bram Duvigneau 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Hi, You should be able to check/uncheck calendars to show using the space bar. I have quite some shared calendars and sometimes it's hard to see what's scheduled in all of them, so if I want to zoom in on a specific calendar, I right click it and open it in a new window. Hope that helps, Bram On 19-11-2018 15:14, Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins wrote: > Hi all, > I just got access to a shared calendar in Office 2016, and while I can find it via the F6 toggle, I cannot seem to activate it by doing that. Right clicking on it and saying show calendar, doesn't seem to let me access it via the keyboard either; the show calendar option seemingly remains unchecked. A, I doing something incorrectly here? Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Accessing shared calendars in Outlook 2016
by Katherine M. Moss 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Hi all, I just got access to a shared calendar in Office 2016, and while I can find it via the F6 toggle, I cannot seem to activate it by doing that. Right clicking on it and saying show calendar, doesn't seem to let me access it via the keyboard either; the show calendar option seemingly remains unchecked. A, I doing something incorrectly here? Thanks.

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