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Office 365 administration
by Ryan Shugart 11 Jun '15

11 Jun '15

Hi: So, to those of you out there who admin Office 365 tenants, I was just curious as to what tips you had in terms of accessibility goes? Do you use the various web UIs or Powershell mostly? I’m finding the Exchange online UI is accessible with Window-Eyes, if slightly clunky and there are some parts that don’t work as expected (like the combo box where you have to use your left and right arrow instead of up and down.) But I think its doable, if not quick. I’ve not played too much with Skype For Business’s admin UI but it looks similar, and I’ve not touched Onedrive or Sharepoint at all. Despite multiple invitations from Microsoft to activate my Yammer, I haven’t messed with it, from the little I know of it I don’t think I’d get any use out of it. One frustration I’ve had is the main Office 365 portal doesn’t seem to work well at all, I can do things like view system status and such, but I think there’s a tree where I can select which application I want to admin, and that isn’t working for me at all or I haven’t figured it out yet. I know I can jump right to Exchange Online’s admin page by going to http://outlook.office365.com/ecp, and I think there are similar pages for the others but I haven’t found them yet. If anyone else knows them please share. I have the Office 365 iPhone app, which lets me do a lot of what the portal should let me do, but I can’t seem to find ways to admin Exchange and the other apps themselves through the IOS app, mainly just manage the users and licenses and get system status. Thanks a lot. Ryan

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Important changes to this list - please read
by Andrew Hodgson 10 Jun '15

10 Jun '15

Hi all, A new technology has been developed to try and mitigate against non-legitimate and spam email which has been taking off in the last few months. This technology is called DMARC, and unfortunately is not compatible with email lists, as the email lists break the DMARC system and cause emails whose providers publish DMARC information to end up being rejected. This started causing the list server here issues several months ago when users were randomly being kicked off lists. There are a number of ways of mitigating against this issue, and the implementation I have chosen for the lists here will I hope be as non-intrusive to screen reader users as possible. Until yesterday, most of the lists weren't seeing the system in action, but sometime yesterday Gmail decided to publish DMARC records, so the system I put in place started seeing regular use across the lists. Here is the system put in place: For email reaching the list, the system will look up if a DMARC record is published for the domain. If no record is published, the message is sent out to the list as normal. If a DMARC record is published, the email is modified as followed: - The From: header is changed so that the text "Via Listname" is added to the person's name; - The email address in the From: header is replaced by the list address; - The Original from: header is put into the cc: header. This I think gives the best balance of deliverability for all users, without cluttering up screen reader users with other information in the message or the From: header. Yahoogroups have their own way of mitigating this for all messages, and I feel this causes extraneous information to be heard for example using the screen reader. The DMARC website is at www.dmarc.org<http://www.dmarc.org> if you want to see more information. This is a very new standard, and I hope there will be a way devised for people to use mailing lists with this technology in place which has a better solution. Thanks and happy listing, Andrew.

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Important changes to this list - please read
by Andrew Hodgson 10 Jun '15

10 Jun '15

Hi all, A new technology has been developed to try and mitigate against non-legitimate and spam email which has been taking off in the last few months. This technology is called DMARC, and unfortunately is not compatible with email lists, as the email lists break the DMARC system and cause emails whose providers publish DMARC information to end up being rejected. This started causing the list server here issues several months ago when users were randomly being kicked off lists. There are a number of ways of mitigating against this issue, and the implementation I have chosen for the lists here will I hope be as non-intrusive to screen reader users as possible. Until yesterday, most of the lists weren't seeing the system in action, but sometime yesterday Gmail decided to publish DMARC records, so the system I put in place started seeing regular use across the lists. Here is the system put in place: For email reaching the list, the system will look up if a DMARC record is published for the domain. If no record is published, the message is sent out to the list as normal. If a DMARC record is published, the email is modified as followed: - The From: header is changed so that the text "Via Listname" is added to the person's name; - The email address in the From: header is replaced by the list address; - The Original from: header is put into the cc: header. This I think gives the best balance of deliverability for all users, without cluttering up screen reader users with other information in the message or the From: header. Yahoogroups have their own way of mitigating this for all messages, and I feel this causes extraneous information to be heard for example using the screen reader. The DMARC website is at www.dmarc.org<http://www.dmarc.org> if you want to see more information. This is a very new standard, and I hope there will be a way devised for people to use mailing lists with this technology in place which has a better solution. Thanks and happy listing, Andrew.

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rdp and jaws
by mike 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

Hi, My wife is using rdp at work and needs to switch back and forth from the rdp session to her desktop to see her outlook as part of her job. She is using remote desktop to connect to their remote computer as there a way for her to switch between her desktop and the remote session without having to log off?

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Which program do people recommend for terminal sharing?
by Jen Bottom 08 Jun '15

08 Jun '15

Hi, One of the products I support lives on Linux boxes, so I have been exploring the possibility of using something like 'tmux' or 'tmate', for times when it is useful to see what the customer themselves is doing on their box as they do it. So far I have found 'tmate' ok, but 'speak' does seem to like reading out bits of the session from before. reading up from the bottom of the window seems to work ok though. Also, if I create the 'tmate' session on my Mac all is good, but if I connect to someone els's session, VO seems to get very hung up on telling me about light box drawings. Any thoughts on the best solutions for terminal sharing are very much appreciated. Cheers, Jen.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] certification questions
by curtis jackson 08 Jun '15

08 Jun '15

maybe some one could record an audio discription of the screen shots that will play when you get to those questions. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > People, I am more then willing to join the team. I have done some work internally with Cisco on this and have made good movement forward with the CCNA certs. At this stage, I cannot share much of this due to NDA. > > The biggest issue vendors like Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, etc has is to prevent cheating. Thus some components of the exam might be designed to prevent this from happening in turn making that part of the exam inaccessible. Thus you might still require a reader for those part if they can make the other parts of the exam accessible. > > In Microsoft or Apple exams, I assume there is a lot of screen shots. Thus they would have to make that information accessible some how. so how would you make a screen shot of the task manager accessible for example to ensure the same level of information and challenge is provided to all parties for that question? > > Sean > > >> On 16 May 2015, at 7:01 am, Kelly Prescott <kprescott(a)coolip.net> wrote: >> >> I am up for it as I am trying to work on this just now! >> I wouldn't mind coordinating etc. >> kp >> >>> On Fri, 15 May 2015, John G Heim wrote: >>> >>> If you folks would like to try to do something about this, I suggest we form a team to look into it. If someone steps up to lead the team, we can arrange a meeting via skype with IAVIT's lawyer to see if we have any recourse. >>> >>> >>>> On 05/15/2015 01:09 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> As others have said, the only way you will get through it is with a reader >>>> who can confidently read technical questions in a timely manner. I did >>>> the MCITP Enterprise and server 2008 R2 certs (6 exams), and only got >>>> anywhere with a training company in the UK called Firebrand. All other >>>> attempts to get certs have gone wrong. I tried to do the upgrade exam to >>>> 2012 R2 last year and had a similar failure due to not getting a competent >>>> reader. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Andrew. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Blind-sysadmins >>>> [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Kelly Prescott >>>> Sent: 14 May 2015 23:21 >>>> To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] certification questions >>>> >>>> Hello to all on this list. >>>> My name is Kelly Prescott and I am currently enrolled for a degree in >>>> Information Technology-Network Administration. >>>> I am not new to this area, but up to now, my experience is with Unix/Linux >>>> systems which I have little to no problem with in terms of accessability. >>>> I managed the Network Operations Center for a ISP for about 10 years, so I >>>> am relatively experienced. >>>> My weak points are stuff involving Windows as that was not my area. >>>> This program is All Windows All the time! >>>> I am trying to do the Microsoft certifications and my forst cert attempt >>>> was a total non-success. >>>> Certiport who provided the test said it was accessible with JAWS, and it >>>> was not. >>>> So my first question is Is there anyone on here who has gone through the >>>> certification process with Microsoft, and if so, how did you manage >>>> accessability? >>>> My testing center knows less than I do about the process, and when I >>>> called certiport customer service, They told me to send a email. >>>> >>>> I did that, but I am looking for input/ideas from others so I don't have >>>> to "blaze" a new trail from scratch. >>>> >>>> -- Kelly PRescott >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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SCCM Training
by Fermin, German 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

Hello all. I currently work at a College's IT department. They are about to start using SCCM. Does anyone have any experience or could give me some advice as to how I could use it. Or not since I don't know the status on screen reader friendliness for it. Thanks Herman

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server 08r2 install
by David Mehler 31 May '15

31 May '15

Hello, Does anyone know how to do either an unattended install of server 08r2, or can any of the win7 talking installers do a server install? I'm trying to upgrade my server knowledge and wanting to go 03 to 08, any digital books would also be appreciated. Thanks. Dave.

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server 08r2 install
by David Mehler 31 May '15

31 May '15

Hello, Does anyone know how to do either an unattended install of server 08r2, or can any of the win7 talking installers do a server install? I'm trying to upgrade my server knowledge and wanting to go 03 to 08, any digital books would also be appreciated. Thanks. Dave.

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OT: linux/Ubuntu for Ruby on Rails
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 29 May '15

29 May '15

Hi All, Sorry for the off topic post. I have always been very interested to work with Ruby on rails, I have created a few apps on windows, however it is not considered the best method in industry to use Windows for developing Ruby on Rails applications. So my question is, How accessible is Linux and Ubuntu for me if I am moving from Windows 8 with Jaws. I understand they are completely different environments and different ways of working, but is the accessibility stable enough for me to consider looking into this further as a career? Or does setting up and negotiating with accessibility issues take much longer and therefore will generally be unproductive. Has anyone on this list attempted to use something like Ruby mine or Sublime text? Look forward to your comments. Chamandeep singh Grover

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