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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Excel 2016 crashes, solved!
by Anatoliy Shudrya 24 Aug '17

24 Aug '17

Thank you everyone who responded to this. It was very frustrating when excel crashed on the admin workstation, especially after I did whole OS reinstall, applications reinstalling, configuring etc. Timothy, I don't think I will send the crash dump file now, I got it all fixed. Here is what happened: I have reinstalled my OS from manufacture recovery disks, installed JAWS, NVDA, and of course first stop to uninstall all manufacture bloatware. On the list was Ms. Office 2010, I have uninstalled it and proceeded with setup of office 365 ProPlus. This is where all crashes started. Oh, little did I know that I needed to use Microsoft easy fix to completely remove partially preinstalled Office 2010 by Lenovo. The uninstall from programs and features did not work at all, even when everything seemed to be uninstalled. Tonight, after a day off out of office. Remotely logged in, uninstalled office 365, rebooted machine, ran MicrosoftEasyFix50450 to remove all remnants of office 2010 partial preinstall, installed fresh office 365 and voila, excel works like a charm. I recall this have helped me multiple times already, when dealing between different versions of office; don't know why I could not think straight yesterday. One time in-place upgrade from office 365 2013 to office 365 2016 crashed my outlook, the other time installing office 365 2016 crashed end-user's excel because I didn't uninstall office 2010 beforehand. It seems like fresh copy of office, no matter what package cannot coexist with any older versions of office packages, at least in my observations/experiences. Kind Regards, Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Excel 2016 crashes I did receive Anatoliy's data file, but I am unable to reproduce the crash. What I don't have is a Windows 7 environment with the current branch of Office 2016 O365. The closest I have is Windows 7 with the deferred branch of O365. For those that do have a lot of crashes, please share your Windows and Office versions. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:28 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Excel 2016 crashes Hi, Seems to work fine over here: Win 7 Pro 64 Bit Office 2016 Pro Plus 32 bit Microsoft Excel 2016 Version 16.0.4266.1001 Agreed, this copy hasn't been updated for a while. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Anatoliy Shudrya Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. August 2017 22:27 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Excel 2016 crashes Hi, Anybody experienced excel crashes with any kind of screen reader? I have Office 365 2016 32 bit on a fresh new OS, windows 7 professional 64 bit and excel just won't work no metter what. When I turn off JAWS, the spreadsheet works just fine, when I have either JAWS or NVDA or even Narrator on, the spreadsheet crashes. All other applications from office suite work perfectely fine, just excel acting up. Any tips or suggestions? Kind Regards, Anatoliy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Excel 2016 crashes
by Eigeldinger Simon 23 Aug '17

23 Aug '17

Hi, Seems to work fine over here: Win 7 Pro 64 Bit Office 2016 Pro Plus 32 bit Microsoft Excel 2016 Version 16.0.4266.1001 Agreed, this copy hasn't been updated for a while. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Anatoliy Shudrya Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. August 2017 22:27 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Excel 2016 crashes Hi, Anybody experienced excel crashes with any kind of screen reader? I have Office 365 2016 32 bit on a fresh new OS, windows 7 professional 64 bit and excel just won't work no metter what. When I turn off JAWS, the spreadsheet works just fine, when I have either JAWS or NVDA or even Narrator on, the spreadsheet crashes. All other applications from office suite work perfectely fine, just excel acting up. Any tips or suggestions? Kind Regards, Anatoliy _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Excel 2016 crashes
by Anatoliy Shudrya 22 Aug '17

22 Aug '17

Hi, Anybody experienced excel crashes with any kind of screen reader? I have Office 365 2016 32 bit on a fresh new OS, windows 7 professional 64 bit and excel just won't work no metter what. When I turn off JAWS, the spreadsheet works just fine, when I have either JAWS or NVDA or even Narrator on, the spreadsheet crashes. All other applications from office suite work perfectely fine, just excel acting up. Any tips or suggestions? Kind Regards, Anatoliy

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Excel 2016 crashes
by Anatoliy Shudrya 22 Aug '17

22 Aug '17

Hi, Anybody experienced excel crashes with any kind of screen reader? I have Office 365 2016 32 bit on a fresh new OS, windows 7 professional 64 bit and excel just won't work no metter what. When I turn off JAWS, the spreadsheet works just fine, when I have either JAWS or NVDA or even Narrator on, the spreadsheet crashes. All other applications from office suite work perfectely fine, just excel acting up. Any tips or suggestions? Kind Regards, Anatoliy

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multiboot USB thumb drive
by David Mehler 22 Aug '17

22 Aug '17

Hello, Is anyone using a thumb drive of sufficient size to boot multiple operating systems? For the purposes of this discussion i'm not talking USB2 or 3, just a big enough drive to load it, and then boot say two or three Linux versions? If so, does any of this speak from selection to the OS's? Thanks. Dave.

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dd-wrt, or tomato USB
by David Mehler 19 Aug '17

19 Aug '17

Hello, Does anyone have experiences with alternative router firmwares? I've got an Asus RT-N66U and am wanting to put something other than stock or as it stands now the merlin firmware on it. I'm not liking the accessibility. OpenWRT had me until I saw that it's 2.4ghz was weak and 5ghz was unrecognized, for me that kind of defeats the purpose. I suppose my choices are down to Tomato USB or DD-WRT, both of which are supported by my device, but the DD-WRT installation fills me with apprehension. If anyone has experience with either Tomato USB or dd-wrt or has another suggestion please let me know. Thanks. Dave.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config
by Eigeldinger Simon 19 Aug '17

19 Aug '17

Hi Zameer, Thanks for the key. The only reasons i use teamviewer is: * You can start NVDA by yourself without the user * To accept admin and UAC dialogs. You can hear what the dialog says using teamviewer so you can accept or dismiss the dialog using that because NVDA Remote stops. though i guess remote desktop also should work because it should also allows you to hear whats going on on the other pc. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. August 2017 23:54 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello again, I've tried it on the corporate network, and everything works as expected. Just staying abit on the secure/admin dialogs. I noticed if UAC is enabled, I cannot dismiss the dialog by pressing alt y. I had to disable it to get an install going. I should note that I am not using team viewer for now. Simon, could you perhaps please provide an example in windows where NVDA might not read during the NVDARemote session? Also, are you saying that, if I were to use teamviewer, I would have no problem reading that UAC dialog? The registry entry for controlling whether NVDA starts at the logon screen is below: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Accessibility] "Configuration"="" Because I did not want NVDA starting, therefore, I've removed NVDA from within the configuration bit. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:54 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi, No problem. If you need more help just tell me. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 22:49 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello Simon, Thanks so much for answering all my questions, I really appreciate your help. I've got everything working on my home network, will try and do this on a corporate network real soon. Thanks again. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:19 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi > 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? You have to do that after install by hand unfortunately. You also can't do that using the config because it seems to write that into the registry. maybe you might be able to fnid that in the registry somewhere. haven't looked yet though. > 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? I had to replace the icon on the desktop. i dropped it into the public desktop folder so everyone can access nvda on their profile. So the target of the icon looks like that: "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r -c \\server\NVDA The install file for silent installs looks like that over here: nvda_2017.2.exe --install-silent --minimal > 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: > you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. > I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? You can do that as well. though i have always a teamviewer session going on in the background as well because admin screens are not moved over using nvda remote. at least when you haven't installed the addon systemwide. another step you need to take when setting up new machines. though i have found out that it seems not always to work with that solution. So i kept using a teamviewer and nvda remote combo. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 10:58 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello there Simon, Thanks much for answering my questions and putting up with me so far. I have just a few more please, just to reaffirm my understanding. 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? Again thanks for any further reply and apologies for my questions, I've not done this before and never would have thought about doing it had I not seen your previous messages. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:46 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi, those are very good questions. forgot to answer them so no problem. I had to create a quick batch script to execute a silent install. so basically its installing silently. though i had to talk to every user to stop their work so i can do that locally. i haven't found out how to pack nvda into a msi and roll it out with windows update or others. i am getting now old versions of nvda and a mixed version pool all over the 80 pcs we have here. it took me 1-2 weeks to get all that set up but it was worth it. i didn't enable use current settings on the logon screen. i also disabled nvda completely so no nvda at the login screen and other admin dialogs and no nvda after login. what i do is logging in to the pc using teamviewer or similar software then enabling nvda from the desktop. you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. Greetings, Simon Am 13.08.2017 um 22:13 schrieb Zameer Mahomed: > Hello Simon, > > Thanks much for your reply. > > I have a few questions please, If you don't mind me asking, did you install NVDA silently on all the pc's? > Secondly, on the computers NVDA was installed, did you select to: > Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens? > > Sorry again for all my questions. > > Kind Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: Blind-sysadmins > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:50 PM > To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config > > Hi, > > You can copy a good icon and drop it in every box. > that what i had to do. > i dropped it into c:\users\public\desktop and from there you can start it then. > > Greetings, > Simon > > > Am 13.08.2017 um 18:36 schrieb Zameer Mahomed: >> Hi List, >> >> >> >> Apologies in advance if I am going off topic. >> >> >> >> Has anyone gotten NVDA to install silently using a custom config >> pointed elsewhere? >> >> My question stems from some NVDARemote messages which I've followed >> from Simon sometime ago, Thanks Simon. >> >> I've setup the config and put it it on the server however, >> >> My problem is that >> >> If I install NVDA with switches like: >> >> c:\nvda.exe --install-silent -m launchNVDA -r -c \\share\NVDA >> >> After a silent install, on the desktop, target of the icon shows like: >> >> "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r >> >> Of course I could modify the icon to point to the config, but I can't >> imagine having to do this on many pc's within the company? >> >> Any help regarding my issue would be much appreciated please. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > -- > Simon Eigeldinger > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ > E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at > MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com > ICQ: 121823966 > Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- Simon Eigeldinger Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com ICQ: 121823966 Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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merlin firmware, ssh commandline, disable wps
by David Mehler 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Hello, If anyone is using merlin on their router, is there a way to turn off wps via commandline? Thanks. Dave.

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merlin firmware, ssh commandline, disable wps
by David Mehler 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Hello, If anyone is using merlin on their router, is there a way to turn off wps via commandline? Thanks. Dave.

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VMWare Workstation and Fusion
by Fermin, German 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Anyone have any tips getting to the point where I could get speech on both sides of the fence? Trying to run Windows 10 in order to work on SCCM. In windows I seem to almost always turn narrator on instead of the VM Over on the Mac, can't seem to consistently be in the window in order to be in the VM. I'm probably missing something simple German

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