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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config
by Eigeldinger Simon 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hi, No problem. If you need more help just tell me. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 22:49 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello Simon, Thanks so much for answering all my questions, I really appreciate your help. I've got everything working on my home network, will try and do this on a corporate network real soon. Thanks again. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:19 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi > 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? You have to do that after install by hand unfortunately. You also can't do that using the config because it seems to write that into the registry. maybe you might be able to fnid that in the registry somewhere. haven't looked yet though. > 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? I had to replace the icon on the desktop. i dropped it into the public desktop folder so everyone can access nvda on their profile. So the target of the icon looks like that: "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r -c \\server\NVDA The install file for silent installs looks like that over here: nvda_2017.2.exe --install-silent --minimal > 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: > you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. > I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? You can do that as well. though i have always a teamviewer session going on in the background as well because admin screens are not moved over using nvda remote. at least when you haven't installed the addon systemwide. another step you need to take when setting up new machines. though i have found out that it seems not always to work with that solution. So i kept using a teamviewer and nvda remote combo. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 10:58 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello there Simon, Thanks much for answering my questions and putting up with me so far. I have just a few more please, just to reaffirm my understanding. 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? Again thanks for any further reply and apologies for my questions, I've not done this before and never would have thought about doing it had I not seen your previous messages. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:46 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi, those are very good questions. forgot to answer them so no problem. I had to create a quick batch script to execute a silent install. so basically its installing silently. though i had to talk to every user to stop their work so i can do that locally. i haven't found out how to pack nvda into a msi and roll it out with windows update or others. i am getting now old versions of nvda and a mixed version pool all over the 80 pcs we have here. it took me 1-2 weeks to get all that set up but it was worth it. i didn't enable use current settings on the logon screen. i also disabled nvda completely so no nvda at the login screen and other admin dialogs and no nvda after login. what i do is logging in to the pc using teamviewer or similar software then enabling nvda from the desktop. you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. Greetings, Simon Am 13.08.2017 um 22:13 schrieb Zameer Mahomed: > Hello Simon, > > Thanks much for your reply. > > I have a few questions please, If you don't mind me asking, did you install NVDA silently on all the pc's? > Secondly, on the computers NVDA was installed, did you select to: > Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens? > > Sorry again for all my questions. > > Kind Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: Blind-sysadmins > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:50 PM > To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config > > Hi, > > You can copy a good icon and drop it in every box. > that what i had to do. > i dropped it into c:\users\public\desktop and from there you can start it then. > > Greetings, > Simon > > > Am 13.08.2017 um 18:36 schrieb Zameer Mahomed: >> Hi List, >> >> >> >> Apologies in advance if I am going off topic. >> >> >> >> Has anyone gotten NVDA to install silently using a custom config >> pointed elsewhere? >> >> My question stems from some NVDARemote messages which I've followed >> from Simon sometime ago, Thanks Simon. >> >> I've setup the config and put it it on the server however, >> >> My problem is that >> >> If I install NVDA with switches like: >> >> c:\nvda.exe --install-silent -m launchNVDA -r -c \\share\NVDA >> >> After a silent install, on the desktop, target of the icon shows like: >> >> "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r >> >> Of course I could modify the icon to point to the config, but I can't >> imagine having to do this on many pc's within the company? >> >> Any help regarding my issue would be much appreciated please. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > -- > Simon Eigeldinger > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ > E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at > MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com > ICQ: 121823966 > Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- Simon Eigeldinger Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com ICQ: 121823966 Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Tool to Monitor and Report Out the Stability of Internet Connection
by Mika Pyyhkala 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

At home I am having some intermittent connectivity issues with my new Comcast Xfinity 1Gig service. I am looking for a tool that could monitor the up time of the connection, and report on the number and duration of outages. Ideally the solution would look like: 1. A hardware device like an iPad that would ping a server or servers out on the cloud to verify connectivity of the premises; 2. A cloud based service that would report on the duration and number of outages. In doing a couple of hours of research, the best and most closest solution I found was a utility you can run on a pc that will log the connectivity and down time periods called Net Uptime Monitor: https://netuptimemonitor.com/details/ This would work I just have a preference not to have to install extra software on a computer, and I like the idea of a dedicated hardware appliance and cloud service. Also if doing this kind of test say at another location it may be best if you don't have to install anything on the computers, etc. I think this could be done with a raspberry pie but not having experience with them it may take a long time to get that setup, but that could be a good setup as well. I don't know if you can get one that has some preconfigured utilities like this you may be able to run. I did read an article where someone had a tricked out setup with a raspberry pie and I think it used IFTTT. But again I do have an iPad just sitting on a shelf waiting to do this. I'd be open to also having an Android tablet do the job. Also I've used a batch file with ping that writes to a text file but then you have to manually go through it to identify the time slots when the connection is down. I'll paste the contents of the batch file at the end of the message in case anyone wants it. In conclusion, just curious if you have any ideas or if I am stuck using these pc type utilities. Best, Mika Pyyhkala (contents of .bat file) @echo off : Gerard ORourke : simple PING with Timestamp set ADDRESS=8.8.8.8 :You can use any address the above is for Google Set COUNT=4 :This sets the number of ping attempts per cycle set FILENAME=Output-PING.txt echo Ping Started. Pinging Address: %ADDRESS% echo Please Check Output File %FILENAME% to confirm Ping test is OK :start echo. >> %FILENAME%% echo *********************>> %FILENAME%% echo %date% >> %FILENAME%% echo %time% >> %FILENAME%% ping %ADDRESS% -n %COUNT% >> %FILENAME%% timeout 60 goto start -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:46 PM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] dd-wrt as a repeater Hello, Has anyone set up dd-wrt as a wireless repeater? I've got a router, a Linksys e3000 that I put dd-wrt on it. I attempted to set it up as a repeater, it's showing as a separate ssid wireless network, and I'm not able to get to it. I'm wanting to know what I missed? Also, what SSID do I give the repeater, my 2.4GHZ my 5GHZ or my guest network? Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins ________________________________ This message contains information from Neighborhood Health Plan that may be confidential or privileged. This message is directed only to the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message and any attachments.

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dd-wrt as a repeater
by David Mehler 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hello, Has anyone set up dd-wrt as a wireless repeater? I've got a router, a Linksys e3000 that I put dd-wrt on it. I attempted to set it up as a repeater, it's showing as a separate ssid wireless network, and I'm not able to get to it. I'm wanting to know what I missed? Also, what SSID do I give the repeater, my 2.4GHZ my 5GHZ or my guest network? Thanks. Dave.

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dd-wrt as a repeater
by David Mehler 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hello, Has anyone set up dd-wrt as a wireless repeater? I've got a router, a Linksys e3000 that I put dd-wrt on it. I attempted to set it up as a repeater, it's showing as a separate ssid wireless network, and I'm not able to get to it. I'm wanting to know what I missed? Also, what SSID do I give the repeater, my 2.4GHZ my 5GHZ or my guest network? Thanks. Dave.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config
by Eigeldinger Simon 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hi > 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? You have to do that after install by hand unfortunately. You also can't do that using the config because it seems to write that into the registry. maybe you might be able to fnid that in the registry somewhere. haven't looked yet though. > 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? I had to replace the icon on the desktop. i dropped it into the public desktop folder so everyone can access nvda on their profile. So the target of the icon looks like that: "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r -c \\server\NVDA The install file for silent installs looks like that over here: nvda_2017.2.exe --install-silent --minimal > 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: > you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. > I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? You can do that as well. though i have always a teamviewer session going on in the background as well because admin screens are not moved over using nvda remote. at least when you haven't installed the addon systemwide. another step you need to take when setting up new machines. though i have found out that it seems not always to work with that solution. So i kept using a teamviewer and nvda remote combo. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 10:58 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello there Simon, Thanks much for answering my questions and putting up with me so far. I have just a few more please, just to reaffirm my understanding. 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? Again thanks for any further reply and apologies for my questions, I've not done this before and never would have thought about doing it had I not seen your previous messages. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:46 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi, those are very good questions. forgot to answer them so no problem. I had to create a quick batch script to execute a silent install. so basically its installing silently. though i had to talk to every user to stop their work so i can do that locally. i haven't found out how to pack nvda into a msi and roll it out with windows update or others. i am getting now old versions of nvda and a mixed version pool all over the 80 pcs we have here. it took me 1-2 weeks to get all that set up but it was worth it. i didn't enable use current settings on the logon screen. i also disabled nvda completely so no nvda at the login screen and other admin dialogs and no nvda after login. what i do is logging in to the pc using teamviewer or similar software then enabling nvda from the desktop. you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. Greetings, Simon Am 13.08.2017 um 22:13 schrieb Zameer Mahomed: > Hello Simon, > > Thanks much for your reply. > > I have a few questions please, If you don't mind me asking, did you install NVDA silently on all the pc's? > Secondly, on the computers NVDA was installed, did you select to: > Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens? > > Sorry again for all my questions. > > Kind Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: Blind-sysadmins > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:50 PM > To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config > > Hi, > > You can copy a good icon and drop it in every box. > that what i had to do. > i dropped it into c:\users\public\desktop and from there you can start it then. > > Greetings, > Simon > > > Am 13.08.2017 um 18:36 schrieb Zameer Mahomed: >> Hi List, >> >> >> >> Apologies in advance if I am going off topic. >> >> >> >> Has anyone gotten NVDA to install silently using a custom config >> pointed elsewhere? >> >> My question stems from some NVDARemote messages which I've followed >> from Simon sometime ago, Thanks Simon. >> >> I've setup the config and put it it on the server however, >> >> My problem is that >> >> If I install NVDA with switches like: >> >> c:\nvda.exe --install-silent -m launchNVDA -r -c \\share\NVDA >> >> After a silent install, on the desktop, target of the icon shows like: >> >> "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r >> >> Of course I could modify the icon to point to the config, but I can't >> imagine having to do this on many pc's within the company? >> >> Any help regarding my issue would be much appreciated please. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > -- > Simon Eigeldinger > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ > E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at > MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com > ICQ: 121823966 > Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- Simon Eigeldinger Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com ICQ: 121823966 Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora
by Eigeldinger Simon 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hi, I hope you waited long enough. It depends on your machine. If its a hd i would wait around 8-9 minutes. if its a ssd i would wait 3-4 minutes. then you can start playing with it. i often wait 10 minutes randomly hitting the < button because this doesn't harm the boot process but keeps the screen saver from gnome from getting in the way. Some OSs like opensuse or paldo have a boot sound. Fedora i guess doesn't have that. So its a little bit trial and error though after a while you have the hang of it how long it takes until the box has booted. Have you given enough ram? 2 gb or more is good. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Ibrahim Mahsoub Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 11:10 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora vm work station and i ddownloaded fedora 26 work station also am using windows 7 .64 On 8/16/17, Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> wrote: > Hi Ibrahim, > > Generally there is a lot of general linux documentation and fedora > specific stuff online. > though there are some mailing lists like the sonar gnu/linux mailng > list which is also not distro specific. > not all are using sonar on that list but they also help with other > distros like fedora. > > Subscribing is possible by sending a e-mail to > support-request(a)sonargnulinux.com with subscribe as the subject. > > > Which ISO have you downloaded of fedora? > > Greetings, > Simon > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Simon Eigeldinger > Informatik > Nebengebäude 1, OG1 > ------------------------- > Stadt Hohenems > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 > 6845 Hohenems > Österreich > Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 > Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 > E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at > Web: www.hohenems.at > > Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich > und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Blind-sysadmins > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag > von Ibrahim Mahsoub > Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 04:42 > An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora > > i'm new to use fedora and have 0 exp in linux so would you tell me > about sorces to descover it? > > On 8/14/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> on 25 i had no issues using the defaults. >> in 26 i haven't tested. >> though you could try it and report back. >> i have no pc i can try that on at the moment. >> >> Greetings, >> Simon >> >> Am 14.08.2017 um 03:11 schrieb Ibrahim Mahsoub: >>> so simon if there is a problems would you tell me about it? >>> >>> On 8/13/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins >>> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Installing fedora shouldn't be a problem. >>>> i did that over here though not with 26 at the moment. >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> Am 13.08.2017 um 18:49 schrieb Majid Hussain: >>>>> hi there mate, >>>>> alt + win plus s, >>>>> is the shortcut key to launch orca, after the dvd boots give it a >>>>> minute or 2, then try the shortcut. >>>>> i've never installed fedora, so I can't help you from there. >>>>> just a something, >>>>> find out what keys you need to press for volume up and down they >>>>> are commenly knowne as your media keys mine as an example are fn >>>>> plus number 3 for volume down, and for volume up it is fn plus 4. >>>>> the keys on your machine most likely be different . >>>>> I say this because some distro's volumes are down so you may, may >>>>> need to put up the volume. >>>>> I hope this helps, >>>>> Majid Hussain >>>>> >>>>> On 13/08/2017, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> hello >>>>>> do we have a accessible fedora or can i inable screen reader >>>>>> after the boot started in fedora thanks for helping and have a >>>>>> nice day >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ibrahem mahsoub >>>>>> blind computerest >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Eigeldinger >>>> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >>>> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >>>> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >>>> ICQ: 121823966 >>>> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Simon Eigeldinger >> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >> ICQ: 121823966 >> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > > -- > ibrahem mahsoub > blind computerest > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora
by Eigeldinger Simon 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hi, It depends on your machine. If its a hd i would wait around 8-9 minutes. if its a ssd i would wait 3-4 minutes. then you can start playing with it. i often wait 10 minutes randomly hitting the < button because this doesn't harm the boot process but keeps the screen saver from gnome from getting in the way. Some OSs like opensuse or paldo have a boot sound. Fedora i guess doesn't have that. So its a little bit trial and error though after a while you have the hang of it how long it takes until the box has booted. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Majid Hussain Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 11:28 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora hi there simon, I have a question for you, how would you know how long you would have to wate? if there was an audable sound when the desktop loades like ubuntu's live dvd does would be useful? On 16/08/2017, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009(a)gmail.com> wrote: > vm work station and i ddownloaded fedora 26 work station also am using > windows 7 .64 > > On 8/16/17, Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> wrote: >> Hi Ibrahim, >> >> Generally there is a lot of general linux documentation and fedora >> specific stuff online. >> though there are some mailing lists like the sonar gnu/linux mailng >> list which is also not distro specific. >> not all are using sonar on that list but they also help with other >> distros like fedora. >> >> Subscribing is possible by sending a e-mail to >> support-request(a)sonargnulinux.com with subscribe as the subject. >> >> >> Which ISO have you downloaded of fedora? >> >> Greetings, >> Simon >> >> >> Mit freundlichen Grüßen >> >> Simon Eigeldinger >> Informatik >> Nebengebäude 1, OG1 >> ------------------------- >> Stadt Hohenems >> Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 >> 6845 Hohenems >> Österreich >> Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 >> Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 >> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at >> Web: www.hohenems.at >> >> Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich >> und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Blind-sysadmins >> [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag >> von Ibrahim Mahsoub >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 04:42 >> An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora >> >> i'm new to use fedora and have 0 exp in linux so would you tell me >> about sorces to descover it? >> >> On 8/14/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> on 25 i had no issues using the defaults. >>> in 26 i haven't tested. >>> though you could try it and report back. >>> i have no pc i can try that on at the moment. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Simon >>> >>> Am 14.08.2017 um 03:11 schrieb Ibrahim Mahsoub: >>>> so simon if there is a problems would you tell me about it? >>>> >>>> On 8/13/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins >>>> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Installing fedora shouldn't be a problem. >>>>> i did that over here though not with 26 at the moment. >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> Am 13.08.2017 um 18:49 schrieb Majid Hussain: >>>>>> hi there mate, >>>>>> alt + win plus s, >>>>>> is the shortcut key to launch orca, after the dvd boots give it a >>>>>> minute or 2, then try the shortcut. >>>>>> i've never installed fedora, so I can't help you from there. >>>>>> just a something, >>>>>> find out what keys you need to press for volume up and down they >>>>>> are commenly knowne as your media keys mine as an example are fn >>>>>> plus number 3 for volume down, and for volume up it is fn plus 4. >>>>>> the keys on your machine most likely be different . >>>>>> I say this because some distro's volumes are down so you may, may >>>>>> need to put up the volume. >>>>>> I hope this helps, >>>>>> Majid Hussain >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13/08/2017, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> hello >>>>>>> do we have a accessible fedora or can i inable screen reader >>>>>>> after the boot started in fedora thanks for helping and have a >>>>>>> nice day >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ibrahem mahsoub >>>>>>> blind computerest >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Eigeldinger >>>>> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >>>>> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >>>>> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >>>>> ICQ: 121823966 >>>>> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Eigeldinger >>> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >>> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >>> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >>> ICQ: 121823966 >>> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >> >> >> -- >> ibrahem mahsoub >> blind computerest >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > > -- > ibrahem mahsoub > blind computerest > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- kind regards, Majid Hussain _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora
by Eigeldinger Simon 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hi Ibrahim, Generally there is a lot of general linux documentation and fedora specific stuff online. though there are some mailing lists like the sonar gnu/linux mailng list which is also not distro specific. not all are using sonar on that list but they also help with other distros like fedora. Subscribing is possible by sending a e-mail to support-request(a)sonargnulinux.com with subscribe as the subject. Which ISO have you downloaded of fedora? Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Ibrahim Mahsoub Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 04:42 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora i'm new to use fedora and have 0 exp in linux so would you tell me about sorces to descover it? On 8/14/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > Hi, > > on 25 i had no issues using the defaults. > in 26 i haven't tested. > though you could try it and report back. > i have no pc i can try that on at the moment. > > Greetings, > Simon > > Am 14.08.2017 um 03:11 schrieb Ibrahim Mahsoub: >> so simon if there is a problems would you tell me about it? >> >> On 8/13/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Installing fedora shouldn't be a problem. >>> i did that over here though not with 26 at the moment. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Simon >>> >>> Am 13.08.2017 um 18:49 schrieb Majid Hussain: >>>> hi there mate, >>>> alt + win plus s, >>>> is the shortcut key to launch orca, after the dvd boots give it a >>>> minute or 2, then try the shortcut. >>>> i've never installed fedora, so I can't help you from there. >>>> just a something, >>>> find out what keys you need to press for volume up and down they >>>> are commenly knowne as your media keys mine as an example are fn >>>> plus number 3 for volume down, and for volume up it is fn plus 4. >>>> the keys on your machine most likely be different . >>>> I say this because some distro's volumes are down so you may, may >>>> need to put up the volume. >>>> I hope this helps, >>>> Majid Hussain >>>> >>>> On 13/08/2017, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> hello >>>>> do we have a accessible fedora or can i inable screen reader >>>>> after the boot started in fedora thanks for helping and have a >>>>> nice day >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ibrahem mahsoub >>>>> blind computerest >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Eigeldinger >>> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >>> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >>> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >>> ICQ: 121823966 >>> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >>> >>> --- >>> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >> >> > > -- > Simon Eigeldinger > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ > E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at > MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com > ICQ: 121823966 > Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora
by Eigeldinger Simon 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hi Ibrahim, To help you further i have some questions: Which VM are you using? On what OS? Did you wait long enough? Can you find out whats on the screen? Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Ibrahim Mahsoub Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 03:15 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] fedora after i powered on the vm and i pressed alt win s nothing started On 8/15/17, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009(a)gmail.com> wrote: > i'm new to use fedora and have 0 exp in linux so would you tell me > about sorces to descover it? > > On 8/14/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> on 25 i had no issues using the defaults. >> in 26 i haven't tested. >> though you could try it and report back. >> i have no pc i can try that on at the moment. >> >> Greetings, >> Simon >> >> Am 14.08.2017 um 03:11 schrieb Ibrahim Mahsoub: >>> so simon if there is a problems would you tell me about it? >>> >>> On 8/13/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins >>> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Installing fedora shouldn't be a problem. >>>> i did that over here though not with 26 at the moment. >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> Am 13.08.2017 um 18:49 schrieb Majid Hussain: >>>>> hi there mate, >>>>> alt + win plus s, >>>>> is the shortcut key to launch orca, after the dvd boots give it a >>>>> minute or 2, then try the shortcut. >>>>> i've never installed fedora, so I can't help you from there. >>>>> just a something, >>>>> find out what keys you need to press for volume up and down they >>>>> are commenly knowne as your media keys mine as an example are fn >>>>> plus number 3 for volume down, and for volume up it is fn plus 4. >>>>> the keys on your machine most likely be different . >>>>> I say this because some distro's volumes are down so you may, may >>>>> need to put up the volume. >>>>> I hope this helps, >>>>> Majid Hussain >>>>> >>>>> On 13/08/2017, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> hello >>>>>> do we have a accessible fedora or can i inable screen reader >>>>>> after the boot started in fedora thanks for helping and have a >>>>>> nice day >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ibrahem mahsoub >>>>>> blind computerest >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Eigeldinger >>>> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >>>> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >>>> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >>>> ICQ: 121823966 >>>> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Simon Eigeldinger >> Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ >> E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at >> MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com >> ICQ: 121823966 >> Jabber: domasofan(a)andrelouis.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > > -- > ibrahem mahsoub > blind computerest > -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] I want to unsubscribe, but web interface not working. Cannot establish a secure connection to your server.
by Eigeldinger Simon 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Write a e-mail to: blind-sysadmins-request(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org with the subject unsubscribe. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Laughing Thunder Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 17:58 An: Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] I want to unsubscribe, but web interface not working. Cannot establish a secure connection to your server. Please unsubscribe this address. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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