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New Suggestion raised for accessibility of Atlassian HipChat desktop client
by Katherine M. Moss 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

Hey all, I love this thing (I actually use it for personal tech projects; wish it were used at my job) though it's got some major accessibility issues; namely that the desktop client works with neither JAWS nor NVDA, and in the wweb client,, you can't make one to one video calls unless using JAWS for some stupid reason. The following link needs some more votes in order to get it raised in importance. I figured I could get some support from the awesome folks here. I'll be sending this around to other places, and it's out on Twitter as well: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/HCPUB-3262 <http://support-mail-links.atlassian.com/track/click/11828703/jira.atlassian .com?p=eyJzIjoiWnJIbE1jcFVGSzFickJrWFJkVkVvUkMwc3FZIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcI joxMTgyODcwMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL2ppcmEuYXRsYXNzaWFuL mNvbVxcXC9icm93c2VcXFwvSENQVUItMzI2MlwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImMzNTk5MGY5MDZjYjQzMzZiZ DdiOTc4NjBmYzkwYzFmXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiNWVjODVhOGQwZGE2ZDMzMTNjYmUxNTFlN mIwN2YyY2ExODY1ZmE1ZlwiXX0ifQ> Thanks, guys.

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Enterprise Password Management
by Fermin, German 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

Hello everyone, My school is starting to look into an enterprise password management solution. Since I will have to support and also use it, wanted to know if anyone had any experiences with any of them with screen readers. Both good and bad. Some of the venders we're looking at: Thycotic, Cyberark, Entrify, One Identity. Most look like they are web interfaces which of course can range widely when it comes to accessibility. German Purchase College

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some Deployment and remote questions please?
by Zameer Mahomed 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

Hello Listers, I'd like to know, would it be possible to officially configure a PE with Narrator preinstalled? I've tried finding documentation in the windows ADK 1703 but have found nothing concerning Narrator. Currently, we boot from the network to install a preconfigured OS, where booting from the network and selecting an OS is not accessible to me at this moment. I could use an unattend option, for now, but I'd like to know if there are other methods? Secondly, as part of support, we often have to help users remotely. I have seen a few threads here concerning NVDA remote and team viewer, but I'm not sure how to setup a working solution. Are there any guides available please? I've noticed that they also make use of remote desktop. Would NVDARemote still work for this program as well? Or would it be better to install jaws and make use of Tandom? Lastly, If I were to place a portable copy of NVDA on a share and run it when I help various people, as aposed to always carrying a flash around, Is there a commandline option to be able to run NVDA as an administrator?\ I apologize for the beginner questions. Kind Regards

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Starting NVDA or Narrator from command prompt or power shell?
by Jen Bottom 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

Hi everyone, I am still on my quest to be able to set up a Windows Box with Vagrant, that is provisioned with NVDA and that will provide some sort of speech output once the provisioner has run. I have now managed to get the provisioner to run on a Windows10 box, after messing about with 'winrm' for a while. This script installs the NVDA package using 'choco'. I don't think it's the latest but better than nothing. However NVDA does not automatically start once the package is installed. Note currently I don't have access to a physical box running Windows that I can test stuff out on. I am looking for a way to start either NVDA or Narrator from the command prompt or power shell, so I can at least get some feedback. I have tried going to the VM GUI and using the NVDA short cut key as a quick work-around, but nothing seemed to happen. Also as I am being lazy and not building my own Vagrant box, a quick way to enable Audio if it is disabled is appreciated. I think it is available on the box I have, but I may play with different Windows boxes in the future. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Jen!

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Windows Subsystem for Linux: copying/pasting accessibly in the terminal
by Jason White 06 Jul '17

06 Jul '17

The Windows Subsystem for Linux doesn't provide keyboard commands for copying or pasting text into its terminal, which is not the same as the PowerShell console (for example, it supports full terminal emulations for ncurses applications). See the GitHub issue at https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/235 I hope this is prioritized and fixed. Meanwhile, does anyone here have a work-around?

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] [program-l] Re: Code compare - I have found a solution
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

Hello, Yes, I did try your suggestion. However it did not work for me. Perhaps I did not set it up correctly, but I was not able to easily identify the changes, and switch between the two windows. Maybe I will try it again when I have some time. Thank you, Chamandeep Singh Grover Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Jul 2017, at 19:09, Rodney Haynie <RodneyH(a)InfoMC.com> wrote: > > Hmmm, maybe I will load this up in the future and give it a whirl. But did you actually try Win Merge that I suggested. There are keystrokes for all of the comparison and merge actions. The keystrokes are listed in the Help menu very accessible for screen readers. > When changing between code windows, the lines remain in sync. > I use my screen reader's (JAWS) font color keystrokes to identify the beginning and end of a large block of modified code, (when I have it set to display non-modified lines). > As I merge in the changes, from left to right, or right to left, depending on what I want, the count of changes decrease. I know this by telling my screen reader to read the status bar. > It sounds like Win Merge will do all you want, including staying in sync between code windows. But if you already tried it and something else was a hold back, then sorry. I just wanted to make sure you saw my response to your post a while back. > Take care. > Rodney > > -----Original Message----- > From: program-l-bounce(a)freelists.org [mailto:program-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chamandeep Singh Grover > Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:17 PM > To: program-l <program-l(a)freelists.org>; Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [program-l] Code compare - I have found a solution > > Hi All, > Some time back I wrote on this list to ask whether there was an accessible solution for comparing code in visual studio. Well, now I think I have found something that works quite well. The best i've seen so far to be honest. > The comparison tool is called Code compare. > https://www.devart.com/codecompare/ > Once set up, you can move between the source and target files using control 1 and control 2. move to the next and previous differences with alt + up/down arrows. > and replace content from one file to other by using alt + left/right arrow keys. > The only thing that doesn't automatically happen for screen readers is when you switch to the other window, the line numbers are not in sync. > So you have to ensure you find the correct matching lines by doing the same number of next difference keystrokes on both sides. > > Please give this a go and let everyone know your findings. > I am very excited about this as resolving conflicts has been a major blocker to my work on almost a daily basis. > > Hope this helps. > > Kind regards, > Chamandeep Singh Grover > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:program-l-request@freelists.org?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** program-l-request(a)freelists.org > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:program-l-request@freelists.org?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** program-l-request(a)freelists.org with the Subject:- faq > ¢Wš½ëazX¬µÉbrJ'¶¢šg‰«^—'è–Z0Šx%Šy&j)m¢šè‚¶¦–·ª¹ë-~·ž–+-²Šà²æãyËnžË›±Êâmâ¶¬–)äv‡¬žÜ(®Kaz{Ö¦zËëh¦º ©¥ê®zË_ç¥ŠËl¢¸Ø§¶’¹¸ÞrÙbër¥ë§²æìr¸›xZ+¢Ø^®X¬µÊ&™©Ý²Ëœ…«/iÆŠ‰æ¡×œ–'$¢{az)¦yØšµér~‰e£§‚X§’f¢–Ú)®ˆ+jikz«ž²×ëyéb²Û(®.n7œµöª¢»Ö¦zËëh¦º ©¥ê®zË_ç¥ŠËl¢¸0ŠØm…ä®n7œµöª

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Code compare - I have found a solution
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

Hi All, Some time back I wrote on this list to ask whether there was an accessible solution for comparing code in visual studio. Well, now I think I have found something that works quite well. The best i've seen so far to be honest. The comparison tool is called Code compare. https://www.devart.com/codecompare/ Once set up, you can move between the source and target files using control 1 and control 2. move to the next and previous differences with alt + up/down arrows. and replace content from one file to other by using alt + left/right arrow keys. The only thing that doesn't automatically happen for screen readers is when you switch to the other window, the line numbers are not in sync. So you have to ensure you find the correct matching lines by doing the same number of next difference keystrokes on both sides. Please give this a go and let everyone know your findings. I am very excited about this as resolving conflicts has been a major blocker to my work on almost a daily basis. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Chamandeep Singh Grover

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Code compare - I have found a solution
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

Hi All, Some time back I wrote on this list to ask whether there was an accessible solution for comparing code in visual studio. Well, now I think I have found something that works quite well. The best i've seen so far to be honest. The comparison tool is called Code compare. https://www.devart.com/codecompare/ Once set up, you can move between the source and target files using control 1 and control 2. move to the next and previous differences with alt + up/down arrows. and replace content from one file to other by using alt + left/right arrow keys. The only thing that doesn't automatically happen for screen readers is when you switch to the other window, the line numbers are not in sync. So you have to ensure you find the correct matching lines by doing the same number of next difference keystrokes on both sides. Please give this a go and let everyone know your findings. I am very excited about this as resolving conflicts has been a major blocker to my work on almost a daily basis. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Chamandeep Singh Grover

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Starting NVDA or Narrator from command prompt or power shell?
by Jen Bottom 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

Hi everyone, I am still on my quest to be able to set up a Windows Box with Vagrant, that is provisioned with NVDA and that will provide some sort of speech output once the provisioner has run. I have now managed to get the provisioner to run on a Windows10 box, after messing about with 'winrm' for a while. This script installs the NVDA package using 'choco'. I don't think it's the latest but better than nothing. However NVDA does not automatically start once the package is installed. Note currently I don't have access to a physical box running Windows that I can test stuff out on. I am looking for a way to start either NVDA or Narrator from the command prompt or power shell, so I can at least get some feedback. I have tried going to the VM GUI and using the NVDA short cut key as a quick work-around, but nothing seemed to happen. Also as I am being lazy and not building my own Vagrant box, a quick way to enable Audio if it is disabled is appreciated. I think it is available on the box I have, but I may play with different Windows boxes in the future. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Jen!

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Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system
by Jason White 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment?

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