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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by william lomas 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

jamie thanks for all this yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the bin and dat file in it, on the root part of the card when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get one firmware to update how will the french? the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi William, > > In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the > audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the > first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you have > an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a > sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as > separate phrases. > > If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what > you hear when you jump from heading to heading. > > One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the > heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise > the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the > key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often causes > the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. > > As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, by > tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to > make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and > not some of your proper audio. > > You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, > although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the > real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click. > > You also asked a few other questions: > > Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around > 8-10 hours of playing time. > > Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like > the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, this > kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and more > efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS software. > To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was > never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will > disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for > all the heavy editing work. > > Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub > folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should > be in this folder and not in the root directory. > > Hope this helps, > > Jamie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Aidan Maher > Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can > delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click > sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that > ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to > the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, > because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, > because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when > you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move > fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no > actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here > the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the > keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce > a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, > this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate > them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a > long list of sections and frazes. > > On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to > key >> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to > the >> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section i >> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >> >> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We >>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk >>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a >>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of >>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse >>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen >>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure >>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software, >>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good >>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time >>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one. >>> >>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? >>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then >>>> no >>>> updates happen? >>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. >>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move >>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? >>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so >>>> that >>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player >>>> directly >>>> from recordings >>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move >>>> through >>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i >>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for >>>> this? >>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) >>>> when >>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the >>>> card, >>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update >>>> the >>>> voices? >>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>> WIll >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Send from my netbook. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> > > > -- > Send from my netbook. > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7531 (20120930) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk

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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by Aidan Maher 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

Yes, and if you struggle with the update files, download the .exe version and not the .zip version, as with the .exe version if you press enter it will create the folder and files for you wich you must paste in the root directory of your card. Wel its tru that prs is great for many editing tasks, but sometimes pc's can give problems and you would need a recorder with the same functionallity to fall back on and also we don't all have people available to us if we need computer help, then these hardware is great. They always work, never just do something that is just unusual, and they always ready to use even for long periods of time. I hope the pocket get those features for those who don't have a ptr2, and I actually think the ptr2 should also be updated, I don't no why they always leave the desktop units behind. On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi William, > > In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the > audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the > first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you have > an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a > sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as > separate phrases. > > If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what > you hear when you jump from heading to heading. > > One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the > heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise > the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the > key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often > causes > the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. > > As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, > by > tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to > make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and > not some of your proper audio. > > You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, > although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the > real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click. > > You also asked a few other questions: > > Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around > 8-10 hours of playing time. > > Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like > the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, > this > kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and > more > efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS software. > To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was > never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will > disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for > all the heavy editing work. > > Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub > folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should > be in this folder and not in the root directory. > > Hope this helps, > > Jamie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Aidan Maher > Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can > delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click > sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that > ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to > the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, > because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, > because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when > you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move > fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no > actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here > the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the > keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce > a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, > this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate > them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a > long list of sections and frazes. > > On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to > key >> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to > the >> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section >> i >> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >> >> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We >>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk >>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a >>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of >>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse >>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen >>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure >>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software, >>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good >>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time >>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one. >>> >>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? >>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then >>>> no >>>> updates happen? >>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. >>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move >>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do >>>> so? >>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so >>>> that >>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player >>>> directly >>>> from recordings >>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move >>>> through >>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i >>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for >>>> this? >>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) >>>> when >>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the >>>> card, >>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update >>>> the >>>> voices? >>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>> WIll >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Send from my netbook. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> > > > -- > Send from my netbook. > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7531 (20120930) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > -- Send from my netbook.

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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by Aidan Maher 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

Yes, and if you struggle with the update files, download the .exe version and not the .zip version, as with the .exe version if you press enter it will create the folder and files for you wich you must paste in the root directory of your card. Wel its tru that prs is great for many editing tasks, but sometimes pc's can give problems and you would need a recorder with the same functionallity to fall back on and also we don't all have people available to us if we need computer help, then these hardware is great. They always work, never just do something that is just unusual, and they always ready to use even for long periods of time. I hope the pocket get those features for those who don't have a ptr2, and I actually think the ptr2 should also be updated, I don't no why they always leave the desktop units behind. On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi William, > > In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the > audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the > first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you have > an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a > sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them as > separate phrases. > > If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what > you hear when you jump from heading to heading. > > One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the > heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not recognise > the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press the > key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often > causes > the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. > > As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, > by > tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, to > make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and > not some of your proper audio. > > You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, > although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the > real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click. > > You also asked a few other questions: > > Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around > 8-10 hours of playing time. > > Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, like > the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, > this > kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and > more > efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS software. > To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was > never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will > disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for > all the heavy editing work. > > Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub > folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they should > be in this folder and not in the root directory. > > Hope this helps, > > Jamie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Aidan Maher > Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can > delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click > sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that > ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to > the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, > because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, > because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when > you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move > fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no > actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here > the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the > keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce > a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, > this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate > them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a > long list of sections and frazes. > > On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to > key >> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to > the >> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section >> i >> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >> >> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We >>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk >>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a >>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of >>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse >>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen >>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure >>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software, >>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good >>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time >>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one. >>> >>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? >>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then >>>> no >>>> updates happen? >>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. >>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move >>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do >>>> so? >>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so >>>> that >>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player >>>> directly >>>> from recordings >>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move >>>> through >>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i >>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for >>>> this? >>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) >>>> when >>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the >>>> card, >>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update >>>> the >>>> voices? >>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>> WIll >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Send from my netbook. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> > > > -- > Send from my netbook. > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7531 (20120930) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > -- Send from my netbook.

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power save
by william lomas 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

hi all is power save mode more effective when i have finished with the player for the day, the PTP, than a complete shutdown? can't find much info on power save in user guide

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pocket queries
by william lomas 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and then no updates happen? how do others find the battery life on this unit? also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do so? 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so that when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player directly from recordings 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move through sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet i don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for this? 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) when i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the card, why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update the voices? kind regards to all and I look forward to responses WIll

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when paused in recording
by william lomas 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

hi all when the PTP is paused when doing a recording will it shut off as it is idol?

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recording modes
by william lomas 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

hi what is the difference please between default and conference recording mode?

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Looking for accessories for the plextalk pocket
by Adrien Collins 21 Sep '12

21 Sep '12

Hi I am searching for a leather case and a spare battery for the plextalk pocket, does anyone know where I can get them apart from rnib? Regards Adrien

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Charging the PTP1
by MC WebmailOnline 19 Sep '12

19 Sep '12

Dearest PTP1 Users! Does anyone know how I can willingly use the USB cable to charge the PTP1? It only happens by accident on rare occasions when I am actually making an attempt to use the USB cable to connect the PTP1 to my computer. I then have to restart the machine in order to make it possible to connect to my computer instead, however there are times that I would like to charge the PTP1 with the USB cable. All help welcome! Thank you.

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new vocalizer voices for the plextalk
by André van Deventer 12 Sep '12

12 Sep '12

Hi all I read somewhere that Nuance has not been developing the Realspeak voices for quite a few years now and that they have been replaced by the vocalizer voices. Wonder if Plextalk will also now switch to the new voices? They seem to have a smaller footprint than the older realspeak voices. Andre

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