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Re: [Plextalk] music cd's and ptr2
by Aidan Maher 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Hi, thank you very much for your feedback. Wel its intresting, because there is now always a risk that you can go to shops and they can give you the rong disks. Since there is no way to no by touch what the difference are. And most cd recorders allow the recording of .CDA format on data disks, so I con't even take my roland recorder and try it that way by means of confirmation. But I guess that it would be quite clear from the wording on the cover wich disk you take. I have to look around. Plextalk said to me that some of them can have an audio logo, although that wasn't really confirmed by a sighted person to me directly. So I guess as you said its about hunting and searching til I find it. At least I have a bit of a clue what to look for. Thanks. On 09/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi Aidan, > > No, you are absolutely correct on this one. > > For recording in DAISY format, standard CD-R or CD-RW discs will work > absolutely fine but, if you want to record direct on to a disc in digital > audio format (i.e. .CDA format) that can then be taken to be played on a > standard CD player, the discs must be of the correct audio format in the > first place. > > Essentially, if you bung in a blank data CD, the PTR2 will default > automatically to recording in DAISY format. If you insert a blank digital > audio CD, PTR2 will recognise the difference and will record in .CDA > format. > > Jamie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Aidan Maher > Sent: 09 October 2012 08:32 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] music cd's and ptr2 > > Yes, but I'm talking about the permitting of recording in digital > audio format. As far as I no, ptr2 don't allow recording of digital > audio format on normal data disks, wich is preserved for daisy > recording. Are you saying its not true? > > On 09/10/2012, Life My Way <lifemyway(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> really any cd-r will work. >> you do not need any fancy made discs to record on to. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Aidan Maher" <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> >> To: "Plextalk User Discussion List" <plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 12:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] music cd's and ptr2 >> >> >> Hi, thank you so much, this do help indeed. So how did you got hold of >> those? I mean did you new what to look for when you bought it? Its a >> pity the ptr2 don't except digital audio format on a data disk, but I >> guess that these cd's also have advantages, as they should play much >> smoover on older cd players. >> >> On 08/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> Hi Aidan, >>> >>> I got my son to look over the audio discs that I have in the house and >>> there >>> doesn't appear to be a logo that would distinguish them as being >>> specifically the kind of discs you are talking about. >>> >>> The discs are Phillips discs and the text on the disc just says "CD-R >>> Audio". On another section of the disc in roughly a square area it then >>> says "Compact disc digital audio". Finally, in another area, with black >>> background and white writing, it says "Recordable". >>> >>> I don't have the original box that they came in so can't check it for >>> possible logos. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Jamie >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Aidan Maher >>> Sent: 08 October 2012 15:20 >>> To: plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> Subject: [Plextalk] music cd's and ptr2 >>> >>> Ok, for those who no and use ptr2, I have an idea a little bit what to >>> look for when it comes to music cd's, as they say, it must be a cd >>> that is intended for primery use in a cd recorder or have an audio >>> logo or something. The examples plextalk give on their site and the >>> help I got in their emails didn't help me enough in this matter, could >>> anyone give me more of a clear idea what to look for? What must be >>> rittin on the packaging of such cd's? Ptr2 won't except recording of >>> music cd format (digital audio) on a normal data cd, and I need to no >>> what to look for in order to find the correct type of disk. I no that >>> amazon also sold some of them, but that won't help me as i'm not in >>> the US. Any ideas? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 7559 (20121008) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7563 (20121009) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >

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Re: [Plextalk] music cd's and ptr2
by Aidan Maher 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Hi, thank you so much, this do help indeed. So how did you got hold of those? I mean did you new what to look for when you bought it? Its a pity the ptr2 don't except digital audio format on a data disk, but I guess that these cd's also have advantages, as they should play much smoover on older cd players. On 08/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi Aidan, > > I got my son to look over the audio discs that I have in the house and > there > doesn't appear to be a logo that would distinguish them as being > specifically the kind of discs you are talking about. > > The discs are Phillips discs and the text on the disc just says "CD-R > Audio". On another section of the disc in roughly a square area it then > says "Compact disc digital audio". Finally, in another area, with black > background and white writing, it says "Recordable". > > I don't have the original box that they came in so can't check it for > possible logos. > > Hope this helps. > > Jamie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Aidan Maher > Sent: 08 October 2012 15:20 > To: plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > Subject: [Plextalk] music cd's and ptr2 > > Ok, for those who no and use ptr2, I have an idea a little bit what to > look for when it comes to music cd's, as they say, it must be a cd > that is intended for primery use in a cd recorder or have an audio > logo or something. The examples plextalk give on their site and the > help I got in their emails didn't help me enough in this matter, could > anyone give me more of a clear idea what to look for? What must be > rittin on the packaging of such cd's? Ptr2 won't except recording of > music cd format (digital audio) on a normal data cd, and I need to no > what to look for in order to find the correct type of disk. I no that > amazon also sold some of them, but that won't help me as i'm not in > the US. Any ideas? > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7559 (20121008) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >

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music cd's and ptr2
by Aidan Maher 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Ok, for those who no and use ptr2, I have an idea a little bit what to look for when it comes to music cd's, as they say, it must be a cd that is intended for primery use in a cd recorder or have an audio logo or something. The examples plextalk give on their site and the help I got in their emails didn't help me enough in this matter, could anyone give me more of a clear idea what to look for? What must be rittin on the packaging of such cd's? Ptr2 won't except recording of music cd format (digital audio) on a normal data cd, and I need to no what to look for in order to find the correct type of disk. I no that amazon also sold some of them, but that won't help me as i'm not in the US. Any ideas?

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music cd's and ptr2
by Aidan Maher 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Ok, for those who no and use ptr2, I have an idea a little bit what to look for when it comes to music cd's, as they say, it must be a cd that is intended for primery use in a cd recorder or have an audio logo or something. The examples plextalk give on their site and the help I got in their emails didn't help me enough in this matter, could anyone give me more of a clear idea what to look for? What must be rittin on the packaging of such cd's? Ptr2 won't except recording of music cd format (digital audio) on a normal data cd, and I need to no what to look for in order to find the correct type of disk. I no that amazon also sold some of them, but that won't help me as i'm not in the US. Any ideas?

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when powered off
by william lomas 06 Oct '12

06 Oct '12

hi when my plextalk is completely powered off will it lose battery rapidly? or do people find power save is better?

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Re: [Plextalk] when powered off
by kb7uengene 05 Oct '12

05 Oct '12

Does anyone know what the processor is in the Plextalk Pocket? I'm wondering this because of the boot up time. Is that the reason for the very long wait when turning it on from an off state? - Thanks, Gene On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:41 AM, "Jamie Cuthbertson" <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: Hi William, I think it sounds like you haven't quite understood the 2 states. Essentially, you will save more power if you turn the unit off completely. I believe that the only thing that is then using power is the internal clock. The point of the Power Save mode is to be more efficient than it would be if you left the unit switched on. The disadvantage of switching off completely is that it takes around 40 or 50 seconds to boot up again whereas from Power Save mode it is almost instant. Hence it is a case of "what you win on the swings, you lose on the roundabouts". If rapid use is important, then leave it turned on, if battery life is important, switch the unit off completely. If you want the in between option, go for Power Save mode. Hope that makes it clearer. Jamie -----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 05 October 2012 14:19 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: [Plextalk] when powered off hi when my plextalk is completely powered off will it lose battery rapidly? or do people find power save is better? _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7550 (20121005) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk

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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by Adrien Collins 04 Oct '12

04 Oct '12

Hi Jamie ok thanks for the explanation, it is much clearer now. Adrien -----Original Message----- From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Cuthbertson Sent: 03 October 2012 14:42 To: 'Plextalk User Discussion List' Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries Adrian, In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification Plextalk have the following products which are in circulation: PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and PCMCIA slot options. PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and CF card options PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option. PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options. PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal memory options. Can also stream on line DAISY content. Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD and mini USB options. PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1, PTR2 and PTP1) More information on the current products at the following website: http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/ I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but at least you get the general idea. Regards, Jamie From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Clifford Blackwell Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14 To: Plextalk User Discussion List Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160(a)googlemail.com> To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > Hi > > I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is > this, the 1 or 2? > > Adrien > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Plextalk > [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Aidan Maher > Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I > love the > ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little > faster, when > you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its > not nice > that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't > they also > give it guide speed and guide volume for example? > > On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson > <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> Hi William, >> >> >> >> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one. >> >> >> >> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your > mains power supply. >> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of > the upgrade >> process >> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part > way through the >> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess. >> >> >> >> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier > version so it's >> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the > one you are >> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version. >> >> >> >> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade > to a US firmware >> if >> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why > not just try to >> upgrade direct to the French version? >> >> >> >> Jamie >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Plextalk > [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf >> Of william lomas >> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 >> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >> >> >> >> jamie thanks for all this >> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd > folder with the >> bin >> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card >> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? >> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if > i can't even get >> one firmware to update how will the french? >> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the > sd card >> >> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" >> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi William, >>> >>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you > don't hear the >>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device > assumes that the >>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the > heading. If you >> have >>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or > other things like a >>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the > device to treat them >> as >>> separate phrases. >>> >>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then > these will be what >>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading. >>> >>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for > inserting the >>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player > does not >> recognise >>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. > Often people press >> the >>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay > is what often >> causes >>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. >>> >>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, > when using the PRS, >> by >>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be > careful, however, >> to >>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or > intake of breath and >>> not some of your proper audio. >>> >>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. > Basically, >>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at > the start of the >>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which > includes the click. >>> >>> You also asked a few other questions: >>> >>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can > easily get around >>> 8-10 hours of playing time. >>> >>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features > on the unit, >>> like >>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to > go. In my view, >> this >>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is > far easier and >> more >>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use > the PRS >>> software. >>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and > playback device but was >>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that > many folk will >>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the > PRS available for >>> all the heavy editing work. >>> >>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade > files in a sub >>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 > files and they >> should >>> be in this folder and not in the root directory. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Jamie >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Plextalk > [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Aidan Maher >>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 >>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >>> >>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick > it up, you can >>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that > contain the click >>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I > think that >>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic > so close to >>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading > number, >>> because you here it only when you insert it into the > recording, >>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading > marker, but when >>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading > number as you move >>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections > and frazes, no >>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you > can stil here >>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I > forgot the >>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can > also announce >>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key > wile recording, >>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can > easily loacate >>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if > you have a >>> long list of sections and frazes. >>> >>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and > press the go to >>> key >>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is > inserted in to >>> the >>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and > move by section >> i >>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >>>> >>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher > <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage > for sure. We >>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are > plans. Plextalk >>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They > like to do a >>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that > is because of >>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american > printinghouse >>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features > and we have seen >>>>> more already than it would've had without there work. > I'm not sure >>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the > prs software, >>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your > suggestions are good >>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a > dam long time >>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that > one. >>>>> >>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked > on? >>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a > fortune and >>>>>> then >>>>>> no >>>>>> updates happen? >>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have > made to them. >>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player > itself? such as move >>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should > we wish to do >> so? >>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a > mobile phone so >>>>>> that >>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of > the player >>>>>> directly >>>>>> from recordings >>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the > "click" as i move >>>>>> through >>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the > go to button yet >>>>>> i >>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press > spacebar for >>>>>> this? >>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly > about at plextalk) >>>>>> when >>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on > the root of the >>>>>> card, >>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the > files to update >>>>>> the >>>>>> voices? >>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>>>> WIll >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Send from my netbook. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Send from my netbook. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version > of virus >> signature >>> database 7531 (20120930) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version > of virus signature >> database 7534 (20121001) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version > of virus signature >> database 7534 (20121001) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> > > > -- > Send from my netbook. > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7541 (20121003) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7541 (20121003) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7542 (20121003) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Plextalk mailing list Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk

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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by Aidan Maher 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Is the ptn1 stil available? I thought its replaced by the ptn2. Wel that is what it looks like on the plextalk site. On 03/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Adrian, > > > > In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification Plextalk have the > following products which are in circulation: > > > > PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device > with CD and PCMCIA slot options. > > PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and CF card > options > > PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option. > > PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options. > > PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal memory options. > Can also stream on line DAISY content. > > Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD and mini USB > options. > > PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1, PTR2 and PTP1) > > > > More information on the current products at the following website: > > > > http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/ > > > > I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but at least you > get > the general idea. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jamie > > > > > > > > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Clifford Blackwell > Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > > > The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160(a)googlemail.com> > To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > >> Hi >> >> I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is >> this, the 1 or 2? >> >> Adrien >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Plextalk >> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf >> Of Aidan Maher >> Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10 >> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >> >> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I >> love the >> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little >> faster, when >> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its >> not nice >> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't >> they also >> give it guide speed and guide volume for example? >> >> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson >> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> Hi William, >>> >>> >>> >>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one. >>> >>> >>> >>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your >> mains power supply. >>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of >> the upgrade >>> process >>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part >> way through the >>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess. >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier >> version so it's >>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the >> one you are >>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade >> to a US firmware >>> if >>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why >> not just try to >>> upgrade direct to the French version? >>> >>> >>> >>> Jamie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Plextalk >> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf >>> Of william lomas >>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 >>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >>> >>> >>> >>> jamie thanks for all this >>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd >> folder with the >>> bin >>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card >>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? >>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if >> i can't even get >>> one firmware to update how will the french? >>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the >> sd card >>> >>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" >>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi William, >>>> >>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you >> don't hear the >>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device >> assumes that the >>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the >> heading. If you >>> have >>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or >> other things like a >>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the >> device to treat them >>> as >>>> separate phrases. >>>> >>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then >> these will be what >>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading. >>>> >>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for >> inserting the >>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player >> does not >>> recognise >>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. >> Often people press >>> the >>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay >> is what often >>> causes >>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. >>>> >>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, >> when using the PRS, >>> by >>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be >> careful, however, >>> to >>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or >> intake of breath and >>>> not some of your proper audio. >>>> >>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. >> Basically, >>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at >> the start of the >>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which >> includes the click. >>>> >>>> You also asked a few other questions: >>>> >>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can >> easily get around >>>> 8-10 hours of playing time. >>>> >>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features >> on the unit, >>>> like >>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to >> go. In my view, >>> this >>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is >> far easier and >>> more >>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use >> the PRS >>>> software. >>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and >> playback device but was >>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that >> many folk will >>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the >> PRS available for >>>> all the heavy editing work. >>>> >>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade >> files in a sub >>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 >> files and they >>> should >>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Plextalk >> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Aidan Maher >>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 >>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >>>> >>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick >> it up, you can >>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that >> contain the click >>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I >> think that >>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic >> so close to >>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading >> number, >>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the >> recording, >>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading >> marker, but when >>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading >> number as you move >>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections >> and frazes, no >>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you >> can stil here >>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I >> forgot the >>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can >> also announce >>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key >> wile recording, >>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can >> easily loacate >>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if >> you have a >>>> long list of sections and frazes. >>>> >>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and >> press the go to >>>> key >>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is >> inserted in to >>>> the >>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and >> move by section >>> i >>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher >> <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage >> for sure. We >>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are >> plans. Plextalk >>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They >> like to do a >>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that >> is because of >>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american >> printinghouse >>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features >> and we have seen >>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work. >> I'm not sure >>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the >> prs software, >>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your >> suggestions are good >>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a >> dam long time >>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that >> one. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked >> on? >>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a >> fortune and >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> updates happen? >>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have >> made to them. >>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player >> itself? such as move >>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should >> we wish to do >>> so? >>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a >> mobile phone so >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of >> the player >>>>>>> directly >>>>>>> from recordings >>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the >> "click" as i move >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the >> go to button yet >>>>>>> i >>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press >> spacebar for >>>>>>> this? >>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly >> about at plextalk) >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on >> the root of the >>>>>>> card, >>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the >> files to update >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> voices? >>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>>>>> WIll >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Send from my netbook. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Send from my netbook. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version >> of virus >>> signature >>>> database 7531 (20120930) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version >> of virus signature >>> database 7534 (20121001) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version >> of virus signature >>> database 7534 (20121001) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >> >> >> -- >> Send from my netbook. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7541 (20121003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7541 (20121003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7542 (20121003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >

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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by Aidan Maher 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Is the ptn1 stil available? I thought its replaced by the ptn2. Wel that is what it looks like on the plextalk site. On 03/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Adrian, > > > > In addition to what Clifford is saying, for clarification Plextalk have the > following products which are in circulation: > > > > PTR1 (no longer available) - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device > with CD and PCMCIA slot options. > > PTR2 - desk sized DAISY recorder and playback device with CD and CF card > options > > PTN1 - DAISY playback device with only CD option. > > PTN2 - DAISY playback device with CD, SD and USB options. > > PTX1 - DAISY playback device with CD, USB, SD and internal memory options. > Can also stream on line DAISY content. > > Pocket (PTP1) - DAISY recorder and playback device with SD and mini USB > options. > > PRS - Plextalk Recording Software (supplied with the PTR1, PTR2 and PTP1) > > > > More information on the current products at the following website: > > > > http://www.plextalk.eu/en/top/products/ > > > > I've probably missed out some of the detail or products but at least you > get > the general idea. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jamie > > > > > > > > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of Clifford Blackwell > Sent: 03 October 2012 00:14 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > > > The Pocket is neither, it is the ptp1 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160(a)googlemail.com> > To: "'Plextalk User Discussion List'" <plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > >> Hi >> >> I am confused, ptr 1 and 2, I have the pocket, which is >> this, the 1 or 2? >> >> Adrien >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Plextalk >> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf >> Of Aidan Maher >> Sent: 01 October 2012 17:10 >> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >> >> Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I >> love the >> ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little >> faster, when >> you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its >> not nice >> that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't >> they also >> give it guide speed and guide volume for example? >> >> On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson >> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> Hi William, >>> >>> >>> >>> I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one. >>> >>> >>> >>> The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your >> mains power supply. >>> I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of >> the upgrade >>> process >>> but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part >> way through the >>> upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess. >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier >> version so it's >>> worth double checking that the version on the unit and the >> one you are >>> wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade >> to a US firmware >>> if >>> ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why >> not just try to >>> upgrade direct to the French version? >>> >>> >>> >>> Jamie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Plextalk >> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf >>> Of william lomas >>> Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 >>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >>> >>> >>> >>> jamie thanks for all this >>> yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd >> folder with the >>> bin >>> and dat file in it, on the root part of the card >>> when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? >>> also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if >> i can't even get >>> one firmware to update how will the french? >>> the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the >> sd card >>> >>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" >>> <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi William, >>>> >>>> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you >> don't hear the >>>> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device >> assumes that the >>>> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the >> heading. If you >>> have >>>> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or >> other things like a >>>> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the >> device to treat them >>> as >>>> separate phrases. >>>> >>>> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then >> these will be what >>>> you hear when you jump from heading to heading. >>>> >>>> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for >> inserting the >>>> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player >> does not >>> recognise >>>> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. >> Often people press >>> the >>>> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay >> is what often >>> causes >>>> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. >>>> >>>> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, >> when using the PRS, >>> by >>>> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be >> careful, however, >>> to >>>> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or >> intake of breath and >>>> not some of your proper audio. >>>> >>>> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. >> Basically, >>>> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at >> the start of the >>>> real audio and then remove the section of audio which >> includes the click. >>>> >>>> You also asked a few other questions: >>>> >>>> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can >> easily get around >>>> 8-10 hours of playing time. >>>> >>>> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features >> on the unit, >>>> like >>>> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to >> go. In my view, >>> this >>>> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is >> far easier and >>> more >>>> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use >> the PRS >>>> software. >>>> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and >> playback device but was >>>> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that >> many folk will >>>> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the >> PRS available for >>>> all the heavy editing work. >>>> >>>> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade >> files in a sub >>>> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 >> files and they >>> should >>>> be in this folder and not in the root directory. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Plextalk >> [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Aidan Maher >>>> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 >>>> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >>>> >>>> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick >> it up, you can >>>> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that >> contain the click >>>> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I >> think that >>>> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic >> so close to >>>> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading >> number, >>>> because you here it only when you insert it into the >> recording, >>>> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading >> marker, but when >>>> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading >> number as you move >>>> fru it, because the software only displays the sections >> and frazes, no >>>> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you >> can stil here >>>> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I >> forgot the >>>> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can >> also announce >>>> a name for each heading after you press the go to key >> wile recording, >>>> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can >> easily loacate >>>> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if >> you have a >>>> long list of sections and frazes. >>>> >>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and >> press the go to >>>> key >>>>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is >> inserted in to >>>> the >>>>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and >> move by section >>> i >>>>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher >> <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage >> for sure. We >>>>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are >> plans. Plextalk >>>>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They >> like to do a >>>>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that >> is because of >>>>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american >> printinghouse >>>>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features >> and we have seen >>>>>> more already than it would've had without there work. >> I'm not sure >>>>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the >> prs software, >>>>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your >> suggestions are good >>>>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a >> dam long time >>>>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that >> one. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked >> on? >>>>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a >> fortune and >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> updates happen? >>>>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have >> made to them. >>>>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player >> itself? such as move >>>>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should >> we wish to do >>> so? >>>>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a >> mobile phone so >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of >> the player >>>>>>> directly >>>>>>> from recordings >>>>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the >> "click" as i move >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the >> go to button yet >>>>>>> i >>>>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press >> spacebar for >>>>>>> this? >>>>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly >> about at plextalk) >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on >> the root of the >>>>>>> card, >>>>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the >> files to update >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> voices? >>>>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>>>>> WIll >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Send from my netbook. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Send from my netbook. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version >> of virus >>> signature >>>> database 7531 (20120930) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version >> of virus signature >>> database 7534 (20121001) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version >> of virus signature >>> database 7534 (20121001) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >> >> >> -- >> Send from my netbook. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7541 (20121003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7541 (20121003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7542 (20121003) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >

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Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries
by Aidan Maher 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Hi, sure, I respect what you feel and its all fine. Wel, I love the ptr2 the way it is, but maybe they could make it a little faster, when you press keys like volume and such, and just in general its not nice that ptp1 get new features but ptr2 don't. I mean why don't they also give it guide speed and guide volume for example? On 01/10/2012, Jamie Cuthbertson <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi William, > > > > I think that Aidan's suggestion is a good one. > > > > The other thing that is worth doing is to connect your mains power supply. > I don't know if this is a deal breaker issue in terms of the upgrade > process > but it's good practice anyway. If the battery fails part way through the > upgrade you could end up with a bit of a mess. > > > > I believe that the unit cannot be updated to an earlier version so it's > worth double checking that the version on the unit and the one you are > wanting to upgrade to are at least equal in their version. > > > > I'm a little curious about why you are trying to upgrade to a US firmware > if > ultimately you want to upgrade to a French version? Why not just try to > upgrade direct to the French version? > > > > Jamie > > > > > > From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf > Of william lomas > Sent: 01 October 2012 13:38 > To: Plextalk User Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries > > > > jamie thanks for all this > yes i go to my sd card root directroy and put the verupd folder with the > bin > and dat file in it, on the root part of the card > when i turn on the player though it is not seeing it? > also i would like mine in french if possible but again, if i can't even get > one firmware to update how will the french? > the folder has the 2 files in it and is on the root of the sd card > > On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:29, "Jamie Cuthbertson" > <jamie.cuthbertson(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Hi William, >> >> In addition to what Aidan is saying, the reason that you don't hear the >> audio of the heading being spoken is because the device assumes that the >> first phrase of the section contains the audio of the heading. If you > have >> an unwanted sound such as the click you talk about or other things like a >> sharp intake of breath, these can be enough for the device to treat them > as >> separate phrases. >> >> If the unit has treated them as separate phrases, then these will be what >> you hear when you jump from heading to heading. >> >> One tip is to speak quickly after pressing the key for inserting the >> heading. If you do this, it often means that the player does not > recognise >> the click or intake of breath as a separate phrase. Often people press > the >> key and then take a breath before speaking - this delay is what often > causes >> the first phrase to be an unwanted piece of sound. >> >> As Aidan mentioned, you can get rid of these phrases, when using the PRS, > by >> tabbing to the phrase list and just deleting them. Be careful, however, > to >> make sure that the phrase only contains the click or intake of breath and >> not some of your proper audio. >> >> You can also get rid of these clicks on the PTP1 itself. Basically, >> although it is a bit slow, you can set a new heading at the start of the >> real audio and then remove the section of audio which includes the click. >> >> You also asked a few other questions: >> >> Personally I find the battery life pretty good - I can easily get around >> 8-10 hours of playing time. >> >> Regarding the idea of having a lot more editing features on the unit, >> like >> the PTR2. I'm really not sure that this is the way to go. In my view, > this >> kind of editing is so slow, for any major editing, it is far easier and > more >> efficient to copy the project over to a computer and use the PRS >> software. >> To my mind the PTP1 is a great DAISY recorder and playback device but was >> never intended to be used for major editing. I know that many folk will >> disagree with this view but I like it as it is with the PRS available for >> all the heavy editing work. >> >> Regarding the upgrade process, have you kept the upgrade files in a sub >> folder called "PlexVerUp"? I think there should be 2 files and they > should >> be in this folder and not in the root directory. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Jamie >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Plextalk [mailto:plextalk-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On >> Behalf >> Of Aidan Maher >> Sent: 29 September 2012 17:25 >> To: Plextalk User Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [Plextalk] pocket queries >> >> O, ok, you here the click because the build in mic pick it up, you can >> delete the clicks by deleting the actual fraze that contain the click >> sound from within prs. That is one of the things where I think that >> ptp1 fales terribly. They shouldn't put the build in mic so close to >> the record key and go to keys. You don't here the heading number, >> because you here it only when you insert it into the recording, >> because ptp1 confirm that you have inserted a heading marker, but when >> you view them in prs, it won't announce the heading number as you move >> fru it, because the software only displays the sections and frazes, no >> actual action has ben taken at that point. I think you can stil here >> the heading number with prs by pressing a keystroak. I forgot the >> keystroak, try f9. But I can check that for you. You can also announce >> a name for each heading after you press the go to key wile recording, >> this way then when you move fru them in prs you can easily loacate >> them. Also, I would strongly advice you to use marks if you have a >> long list of sections and frazes. >> >> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> by the click i mean say if i am recording something and press the go to >> key >>> for the heading insertion the "click" as I press that is inserted in to >> the >>> recording. yet when i import this in to the software and move by section > i >>> hear the clicks but not the name of the heading >>> >>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 17:08, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, yes the firmware is being worked on at this stage for sure. We >>>> don't no when the next update will be but there are plans. Plextalk >>>> are generally quite lazy when it comes to updates. They like to do a >>>> few and then stop, but with ptp1 its different and that is because of >>>> aph working with them, so we should thank the american printinghouse >>>> that they got involved. Now we will see more features and we have seen >>>> more already than it would've had without there work. I'm not sure >>>> about your click question, do you mean when you use the prs software, >>>> could you just explain that for me please. Your suggestions are good >>>> though. I stil hope the ptn2 get updated and we wait a dam long time >>>> for that as wel. They could really hurry up on that one. >>>> >>>> On 29/09/2012, william lomas <will.d.lomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> hi does anyone know if the PTP is still being worked on? >>>>> i hate the thought of buying a product that costs us a fortune and >>>>> then >>>>> no >>>>> updates happen? >>>>> how do others find the battery life on this unit? >>>>> also for me i have several suggestions which i have made to them. >>>>> 1. firstly can we do more editing on the player itself? such as move >>>>> headings to lower levels on the device directly should we wish to do > so? >>>>> 2. have it possible to name the book by typing as on a mobile phone so >>>>> that >>>>> when it is built it can get moved to the daisy part of the player >>>>> directly >>>>> from recordings >>>>> 3. when i use the recording software i hear the "click" as i move >>>>> through >>>>> sections, this is when i have of course, pressed the go to button yet >>>>> i >>>>> don't hear the heading title itself do i have to press spacebar for >>>>> this? >>>>> 4. finally (and this i have not asked them directly about at plextalk) >>>>> when >>>>> i put the SD card in with the supposed US firmware on the root of the >>>>> card, >>>>> why is my player, bought from the RNIB not seeing the files to update >>>>> the >>>>> voices? >>>>> kind regards to all and I look forward to responses >>>>> WIll >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Send from my netbook. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plextalk mailing list >>>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plextalk mailing list >>> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >>> >> >> >> -- >> Send from my netbook. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature >> database 7531 (20120930) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plextalk mailing list >> Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7534 (20121001) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7534 (20121001) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > Plextalk mailing list > Plextalk(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/plextalk > -- Send from my netbook.

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