Haha that's taking the whole friendly neighbourhood IT guy type thing
a little bit too far do you not think Andrew? You should have invoiced
them for the work you carried out. At least they would have known that
said work had taken place that way.
On 1/15/19, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is a misconception that these powerlines need a direct electric hookup
> between the systems in order for them to connect. They use the electric
> wiring as aerials and so it is perfectly possible for them to see each other
> even though you are on a different ring.
>
> I had a story about this a year or so back. I had taken a load of
> powerlines from my parents to try and sort out a network issue I had at my
> flat as it has thick walls, they had a load from when I lived there and they
> weren't using them. I plugged them in and reset them to default, and as
> part of this process I thought I was seeing my own network. I had existing
> powerlines which were encrypted. The software I was using prompted me that
> the powerlines needed a firmware upgrade so I went ahead with this. It took
> a fairly long time to complete which I was surprised about, and as part of
> the upgrade it said it was upgrading a wireless access point which I didn't
> have. The usability of the software wasn't good anyway, so I was fiddling
> around a bit. When the upgrades completed I attempted to get onto my router
> to identify DHCP leases and found I was presented with a BT hub instead.
> Yes I had connected to a neighbour with similar powerlines and upgraded all
> their kit!
>
> Andrew.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Barry Toner [barry(a)tonermail.co.uk]
> Sent: 15 January 2019 10:31
> To: Blind sysadmins list
> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Strange gateway issue
>
> Hi,
>
> For completeness. Securing/encrypting my powerline adaptor has now popped
> me back onto my own network.
>
> I never knew this was possible. It's frightening just how insecure by
> default powerline adaptors are and that I was able to see my neighbors
> router web admin, just by popping in powerline adaptors.
> Of course it makes theoretical sense, given the buildings are joined that I
> would be sharing the same powerlines... If I was a malicious user I could
> have very easily reset their router, changed the WIFI password and locked
> them out, all be it until they called their ISP and reset the router but
> then I could jump back on and essentially get free Internet....
> FYI my powerline adaptor was just a basic TP Link 4220 KIT and the neighbors
> router was a Sky HUB. Plugging the adaptors in, and finding out the gateway
> I was connected to, then popping that into the browser and I was logged into
> their routers web admin without being challenged to authenticate...
>
>
> Barry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Toner [mailto:barry@tonermail.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:05 AM
> To: Blind sysadmins list
> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Strange gateway issue
>
> Hi,
>
> It appears my powerline adaptor has picked up my neighbors network.
> Probably due to the properties being connected. A bit of googling has told
> me that I should be able to get back onto my own network by
> encrypting/securing my powerline adaptors.
>
> Barry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Dengler [mailto:codeofdusk@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: Blind sysadmins list
> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Strange gateway issue
>
> Are you sure your Asus router is in router mode (not WAP, look under
> administration)? Do the clients disappear when you turn off the wireless
> radios (wireless/professional, both/all bands)?
>
> Bill
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 03:43, Barry Toner <barry(a)tonermail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes this is creepy. I can see the client list on whoevers SkyHubthis is.
>> There's my Windows client, plus 8 other clients, all with the peoples
>> names...
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Barry Toner [mailto:barry@tonermail.co.uk]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:41 AM
>> To: Blind sysadmins list
>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Strange gateway issue
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't mean to spam the list but I'm adding details as I discover them.
>>
>> So, I've just logged onto the Windows 10 pc that I have connected to my
>> powerline adaptor. Performing an ipconfig/all I can see the gateway is
>> 192.168.0.1. From any client connecting to my SSID and attempting to
>> browse to 192.168.1.1 they end up on the TPLink powerline adaptor web
>> admin, and not the Asus router that the SSID is being broadcast from.
>> Using the Windows client if I pop the gateway 192.168.0.1 in I get a Sky
>> HUB! I don't have Sky!
>> I am in an apartment. Is it possible that my apartment and the other
>> apartment are sharing wiring and that's what's happening? If so, weird
>> and how can I get off this network and just onto my own? Also, I was
>> using this powerline adaptor two days aago and I could access my network!
>>
>> Thanks all,
>> Barry.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Barry Toner [mailto:barry@tonermail.co.uk]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:56 AM
>> To: Blind sysadmins list
>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Strange gateway issue
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To add to this. I notice that a hard drive I have connected to the router
>> is no longer accessible on a Windows PC connected through the powerline
>> adaptor....
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Barry Toner [mailto:barry@tonermail.co.uk]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:01 AM
>> To: Blind sysadmins list
>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Strange gateway issue
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have an Asus router that has the standard gateway address of
>> 192.168.1.1. I connected a Powerline adaptor from TP Link.
>> When I connect to the SSID being broadcast from the router and not the
>> Powerline adaptor, and try to browse to the routers web admin I end up at
>> the Powerline adaptor web admin using the gateway address. However, if I
>> disconnect the Powerline adaptor the gateway address takes me to the
>> router as expected. All network services are working as normal with or
>> without the Powerline adaptor. What is happening and when the Powerline
>> adaptor is connecting and apparently stealing the gateway address where is
>> the routers gateway or rather how is it being addressed?
>>
>> At first I thought the Powerline adaptor was taking over as a DHCP, but
>> that doesn’t make sense as I haven’t configured the Powerline adaptors
>> WIFI move, so as far as I am aware the SSID is still coming directly from
>> the router and not the Powerline adaptor….
>>
>> Hope this makes sense?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Barry.
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