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Windows 10 Attack Surface Reduction rules
by Jason White 06 Oct '18

06 Oct '18

My laptop is running Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, recently upgraded to 1809. There's supposed to be a new option under Virus and Threat Protection to "block suspicious behaviours". However, I can't find it anywhere. This option apparently enables some or all of the Attack Surface Reduction rules. However, I was able to use PowerShell to enable the rules individually, which has the advantage of offering greater administrative control in any case. See this page: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/windows- defender-exploit-guard/enable-attack-surface-reduction My main question is whether the Attack Surface Reduction rules are effective in Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, or whether they really need Windows 10 Enterprise. Also, is there any action performed by screen readers that one should be aware of which would inadvertently fail due to one of these rules? Having looked at the rule descriptions, I can't think of any software that I'm likely to use which would obviously and legitimately perform actions that are blocked.

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asterisk 13
by David Mehler 06 Oct '18

06 Oct '18

Hello, Do we have users of asterisk 13 LTS on list? If so, do you use pjsip as your channel driver? If so, can I send you my small pjsip.conf and can you tell me why authentication is not working. Thanks. Dave.

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Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share
by Eigeldinger Simon 04 Oct '18

04 Oct '18

Hi, I haven't deleted anything from NVDA's files. I just replaced the installer. Today i guess i can post how i have done that. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: core7xx(a)gmail.com <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Oktober 2018 18:06 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi there Simon, Yeah, in the beginning when I asked for help which you helped me initially, I also decided to create a batch for users to install NVDA along with the customised settings. Since at that time, we never installed it in the master image. While it is a right-click and run as Admin type install I'm afraid, we can't silence the speech whilst NVDA is being installed. So unfortunately NVDA speaks only during install and thereafter the batch deletes all the unnecessary synth/braille files etc. I am looking at trying to create an MSI so its just one file, which will take care of everything and more so for running remotely. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Wednesday, 03 October 2018 8:07 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hello core7xx(a)gmail.com, Interesting. Seems we have something different with our admin accounts than with standard user accounts. seems i need to look into that. Remote Addon: You mean version 2.2? Seems to work as the previous 2.1 version. seems also still slow on win 10 but not on win 7. We don't have computer names with dashes/hyphens so i guess i might be not able to help you on that. I have decided to remotely uninstall all installed copiesof NVDA and making my own remotely distribbutable silent installer. Seems i might need to put the settings also in there if i can't find the issue. i'll report about my nvda updater script in the next days i hope. works opretty well over here. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: core7xx(a)gmail.com <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2018 22:42 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi Simon, Not a solution to your problem, but maybe you could take something I hope. I was having this issue even though I am using account with administrative rights. Just a suggestion, Have you maybe tried using the latest version of NVDA along with the remote addon that just got updated? Another thing I've noticed with the remote addon, it seems to be fussy when it comes to computer names. For company reasons our computer names have dashes or hyphens in them for naming purposes. I noticed if I gave my pc a short name with no hyphens it seems to connect to the clients as soon as I tell them to click the icon on the desktop. I hope the above works for you because out of despearation I have also, 1. Installed NVDA along with addon in to the master image that we are deploying and Configured the settings to connect directly to the machine. I did try the suggestion to have the config on a share but, I was also experiencing long time of delay which caused a lot of frustration. Just a question, do you know perhaps how to switch off the beep on client side? I mean for the users who will connect to the machine, It is really not a nice thing for them to be hearing, especially in corporate environment I think. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Tuesday, 02 October 2018 2:27 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi all, Has someone also had that on win 10 with a normal user? i am using the nvda remote addon. I have my nvda settings hosted on a network share where all users have access to. when i start nvda using my admin account i just need to wait 1-2 seconds until my pc is connected to the other machine. but with a normal user i have 30-40 seconds until nvda beeps and is connected. i have already turned off firewall, turned off antivirus, etc. nothing seems to help. when i start nvda without getting the data off the network, nvda is quick. the win 7 clients which we also having have no issues at all. we have win 10 enterprise 1803 with all cumulative updates. Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share
by Eigeldinger Simon 04 Oct '18

04 Oct '18

Hi Zameer, No you normally just need a text editor to edit it. Greetings, Simon , -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Zameer Mahomed <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Oktober 2018 18:10 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi simon, I presume I'd need python to modify the file? Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Wednesday, 03 October 2018 8:22 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi, You might look into the file beep_sequence.py. maybe you can specify a very low beep which you can't hear over speakers. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: core7xx(a)gmail.com <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2018 22:42 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi Simon, Not a solution to your problem, but maybe you could take something I hope. I was having this issue even though I am using account with administrative rights. Just a suggestion, Have you maybe tried using the latest version of NVDA along with the remote addon that just got updated? Another thing I've noticed with the remote addon, it seems to be fussy when it comes to computer names. For company reasons our computer names have dashes or hyphens in them for naming purposes. I noticed if I gave my pc a short name with no hyphens it seems to connect to the clients as soon as I tell them to click the icon on the desktop. I hope the above works for you because out of despearation I have also, 1. Installed NVDA along with addon in to the master image that we are deploying and Configured the settings to connect directly to the machine. I did try the suggestion to have the config on a share but, I was also experiencing long time of delay which caused a lot of frustration. Just a question, do you know perhaps how to switch off the beep on client side? I mean for the users who will connect to the machine, It is really not a nice thing for them to be hearing, especially in corporate environment I think. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Tuesday, 02 October 2018 2:27 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi all, Has someone also had that on win 10 with a normal user? i am using the nvda remote addon. I have my nvda settings hosted on a network share where all users have access to. when i start nvda using my admin account i just need to wait 1-2 seconds until my pc is connected to the other machine. but with a normal user i have 30-40 seconds until nvda beeps and is connected. i have already turned off firewall, turned off antivirus, etc. nothing seems to help. when i start nvda without getting the data off the network, nvda is quick. the win 7 clients which we also having have no issues at all. we have win 10 enterprise 1803 with all cumulative updates. Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share
by Eigeldinger Simon 03 Oct '18

03 Oct '18

Hi, You might look into the file beep_sequence.py. maybe you can specify a very low beep which you can't hear over speakers. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: core7xx(a)gmail.com <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2018 22:42 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi Simon, Not a solution to your problem, but maybe you could take something I hope. I was having this issue even though I am using account with administrative rights. Just a suggestion, Have you maybe tried using the latest version of NVDA along with the remote addon that just got updated? Another thing I've noticed with the remote addon, it seems to be fussy when it comes to computer names. For company reasons our computer names have dashes or hyphens in them for naming purposes. I noticed if I gave my pc a short name with no hyphens it seems to connect to the clients as soon as I tell them to click the icon on the desktop. I hope the above works for you because out of despearation I have also, 1. Installed NVDA along with addon in to the master image that we are deploying and Configured the settings to connect directly to the machine. I did try the suggestion to have the config on a share but, I was also experiencing long time of delay which caused a lot of frustration. Just a question, do you know perhaps how to switch off the beep on client side? I mean for the users who will connect to the machine, It is really not a nice thing for them to be hearing, especially in corporate environment I think. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Tuesday, 02 October 2018 2:27 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi all, Has someone also had that on win 10 with a normal user? i am using the nvda remote addon. I have my nvda settings hosted on a network share where all users have access to. when i start nvda using my admin account i just need to wait 1-2 seconds until my pc is connected to the other machine. but with a normal user i have 30-40 seconds until nvda beeps and is connected. i have already turned off firewall, turned off antivirus, etc. nothing seems to help. when i start nvda without getting the data off the network, nvda is quick. the win 7 clients which we also having have no issues at all. we have win 10 enterprise 1803 with all cumulative updates. Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share
by Eigeldinger Simon 03 Oct '18

03 Oct '18

Hello core7xx(a)gmail.com, Interesting. Seems we have something different with our admin accounts than with standard user accounts. seems i need to look into that. Remote Addon: You mean version 2.2? Seems to work as the previous 2.1 version. seems also still slow on win 10 but not on win 7. We don't have computer names with dashes/hyphens so i guess i might be not able to help you on that. I have decided to remotely uninstall all installed copiesof NVDA and making my own remotely distribbutable silent installer. Seems i might need to put the settings also in there if i can't find the issue. i'll report about my nvda updater script in the next days i hope. works opretty well over here. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: core7xx(a)gmail.com <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2018 22:42 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi Simon, Not a solution to your problem, but maybe you could take something I hope. I was having this issue even though I am using account with administrative rights. Just a suggestion, Have you maybe tried using the latest version of NVDA along with the remote addon that just got updated? Another thing I've noticed with the remote addon, it seems to be fussy when it comes to computer names. For company reasons our computer names have dashes or hyphens in them for naming purposes. I noticed if I gave my pc a short name with no hyphens it seems to connect to the clients as soon as I tell them to click the icon on the desktop. I hope the above works for you because out of despearation I have also, 1. Installed NVDA along with addon in to the master image that we are deploying and Configured the settings to connect directly to the machine. I did try the suggestion to have the config on a share but, I was also experiencing long time of delay which caused a lot of frustration. Just a question, do you know perhaps how to switch off the beep on client side? I mean for the users who will connect to the machine, It is really not a nice thing for them to be hearing, especially in corporate environment I think. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Tuesday, 02 October 2018 2:27 PM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share Hi all, Has someone also had that on win 10 with a normal user? i am using the nvda remote addon. I have my nvda settings hosted on a network share where all users have access to. when i start nvda using my admin account i just need to wait 1-2 seconds until my pc is connected to the other machine. but with a normal user i have 30-40 seconds until nvda beeps and is connected. i have already turned off firewall, turned off antivirus, etc. nothing seems to help. when i start nvda without getting the data off the network, nvda is quick. the win 7 clients which we also having have no issues at all. we have win 10 enterprise 1803 with all cumulative updates. Greetings and thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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NVDA on Win 10: slow starts when getting the settings from a share
by Eigeldinger Simon 02 Oct '18

02 Oct '18

Hi all, Has someone also had that on win 10 with a normal user? i am using the nvda remote addon. I have my nvda settings hosted on a network share where all users have access to. when i start nvda using my admin account i just need to wait 1-2 seconds until my pc is connected to the other machine. but with a normal user i have 30-40 seconds until nvda beeps and is connected. i have already turned off firewall, turned off antivirus, etc. nothing seems to help. when i start nvda without getting the data off the network, nvda is quick. the win 7 clients which we also having have no issues at all. we have win 10 enterprise 1803 with all cumulative updates. Greetings and thanks, Simon

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Manage UPS in Windows 2012 R2
by Ernesto Fdez 02 Oct '18

02 Oct '18

Hi: I need to connect a UPS in Windows 2012 R2 server and manage it via USB. I have tested the WinPower and ViewPower but they are not accessible with Jaws or NVDA. Any suggestions? UPS data: Salicru SLC-1000-TWIN Pro Regards, Ernesto

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Re: NVDA and Hyper-V
by Luke Scholey 29 Sep '18

29 Sep '18

Well I'm a novice with Hyper-V, the charity I am working for has decided to change half of their VMs to be hosted with Hyper-V instead of VMWare (for some unknown reason it saves money) and they've asked me to look at setting up 2 VMs whilst the Head of IT is away. So basically I need to create 2 VMs with server 2012 on them. NVDA is on the physical machine which I control with RDP so that's all good but it's that initial creation of the VM that I'm slightly worried about. Any help is really appreciated Thanks Luke -----Original Message----- From: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> Sent: 29 September 2018 17:57 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [SPAM] [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NVDA and Hyper-V I use it all the time. I'll tell you that some of the interfaces aren't as clear as they ought to be, and it's caused me to accidentally remove a boot disk on a server, for instance. What exactly do you need a hand with, and we'll work from there. -----Original Message----- From: Luke Scholey <l.scholey(a)lukescholey.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:27 AM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA and Hyper-V Hi all Does anyone have experience or a tutorial of using NVDA with Hyper-V? Thanks Luke -- Luke Scholey Webmaster i/c Publishing lukescholey.co.uk Tel: +44 7759 282586 Email: l.scholey(a)lukescholey.co.uk WWW.LUKESCHOLEY.CO.UK All feedback and questions welcome. The site admin can be contacted at: webmaster(a)lukescholey.co.uk All content copyright C 2012-2018 LukeScholey.co.uk Confidentiality Notice: This message and any attachments are private and confidential and may be subject to legal privilege and copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not publish or copy it to anyone else. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software and then remove it from your system. Disclaimer: Although this email and attachments have been scanned for viruses, LukeScholey.co.uk accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this communication. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org -- Luke Scholey Webmaster i/c Publishing lukescholey.co.uk Tel: +44 7759 282586 Email: l.scholey(a)lukescholey.co.uk WWW.LUKESCHOLEY.CO.UK All feedback and questions welcome. The site admin can be contacted at: webmaster(a)lukescholey.co.uk All content copyright C 2012-2018 LukeScholey.co.uk Confidentiality Notice: This message and any attachments are private and confidential and may be subject to legal privilege and copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not publish or copy it to anyone else. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software and then remove it from your system. Disclaimer: Although this email and attachments have been scanned for viruses, LukeScholey.co.uk accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this communication.

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NVDA and Hyper-V
by Luke Scholey 29 Sep '18

29 Sep '18

Hi all Does anyone have experience or a tutorial of using NVDA with Hyper-V? Thanks Luke -- Luke Scholey Webmaster i/c Publishing lukescholey.co.uk Tel: +44 7759 282586 Email: l.scholey(a)lukescholey.co.uk WWW.LUKESCHOLEY.CO.UK All feedback and questions welcome. The site admin can be contacted at: webmaster(a)lukescholey.co.uk All content copyright C 2012-2018 LukeScholey.co.uk Confidentiality Notice: This message and any attachments are private and confidential and may be subject to legal privilege and copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not publish or copy it to anyone else. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software and then remove it from your system. Disclaimer: Although this email and attachments have been scanned for viruses, LukeScholey.co.uk accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this communication.

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