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Re: Office 2016 as Windows 10 app
by Ryan Shugart 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

Hi Andrew: To the best of my knowledge the Office 2016 from the store should be the same as the executable you download from portal.office.com. One way you can check this in JAWS is by going into Outlook and press ins+ctrl+v, that will give you the current version of Outlook, which reflects the rest of the sweet. For example, my current version is Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20075. I am using the nonstore version of Office 365 but I'd expect the store version to give you the same result, as under the hood its just the same executables, differently packaged. When you run into the Excel issues, have you tried running Excel with Narrator to see if the issue reproduces there, that will help tell you if its for sure a JAWS issue and something else to push back at VFO with. You should also let the Microsoft EDAD address know about this as if it turns out to be an office issue they can help push things with the office team. Thanks. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 8:24 AM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Office 2016 as Windows 10 app Hi all, Not strictly sysadmin related but for a long time now I have had a PowerShell bootstrap script which sets up everything on a clean Windows install. I used to install Office Click to Run using the .Exe downloaded from the MS website, however this is becoming problematic of late as older versions don't install correctly and sometimes mess up. A while ago I got a new laptop from Dell and noticed as part of the out of box experience it verified I had an Office365 subscription and downloaded the apps from the Windows store. I used the OEM installation image for a week with JFW and the apps seemed to work well, so I am now using these apps as part of my new installation. I can't script it, but going into the Windows store and re-downloading Office and iTunes directly from the store is a hell of a lot better then messing around with rubbish .Exe files which aren't meant to be scripted anyway. A few weeks ago I lost use of Excel 2016 (when moving around cells I can't read the contents via JFW without copying and pasting). Now I have an MSDN subscription and on one machine I reverted to using the Office 2016 MSI which works fine. There was a recent JFW update which mentioned Excel issues with cells and I thought this would fix things but it didn't. I emailed the support people about this in the UK and they have told me to repair Office, something which isn't available using the store versions. So I wanted to start a discussion to find out whether installing the Office 2016 from the store is a bad idea for screen reader users generally, if there are differences with updates to the store versions as opposed to the versions available by downloading the .Exe from the MS website, and if anyone has a good way of scripting the .Exe download and install. I should say that I have been using this method since around February 2018 and when iTunes got published to the store I am using that as well, I rebuild the systems fairly regularly. These are all home based systems running either Windows 10 Home or Pro with a MS account as the user account, making use of the Office365 Home with OneDrive subscription. No domain or anything special. The bootstrap script runs from a share on a NAS and downloads stuff either via the Internet, or off a separate deployment share. Thanks. Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Office 2016 as Windows 10 app
by Katherine M. Moss 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

Just a thought ... Have you ever used an unzip tool to extract the contents of the exe file and examined the msis underneath? -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 11:24 AM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Office 2016 as Windows 10 app Hi all, Not strictly sysadmin related but for a long time now I have had a PowerShell bootstrap script which sets up everything on a clean Windows install. I used to install Office Click to Run using the .Exe downloaded from the MS website, however this is becoming problematic of late as older versions don't install correctly and sometimes mess up. A while ago I got a new laptop from Dell and noticed as part of the out of box experience it verified I had an Office365 subscription and downloaded the apps from the Windows store. I used the OEM installation image for a week with JFW and the apps seemed to work well, so I am now using these apps as part of my new installation. I can't script it, but going into the Windows store and re-downloading Office and iTunes directly from the store is a hell of a lot better then messing around with rubbish .Exe files which aren't meant to be scripted anyway. A few weeks ago I lost use of Excel 2016 (when moving around cells I can't read the contents via JFW without copying and pasting). Now I have an MSDN subscription and on one machine I reverted to using the Office 2016 MSI which works fine. There was a recent JFW update which mentioned Excel issues with cells and I thought this would fix things but it didn't. I emailed the support people about this in the UK and they have told me to repair Office, something which isn't available using the store versions. So I wanted to start a discussion to find out whether installing the Office 2016 from the store is a bad idea for screen reader users generally, if there are differences with updates to the store versions as opposed to the versions available by downloading the .Exe from the MS website, and if anyone has a good way of scripting the .Exe download and install. I should say that I have been using this method since around February 2018 and when iTunes got published to the store I am using that as well, I rebuild the systems fairly regularly. These are all home based systems running either Windows 10 Home or Pro with a MS account as the user account, making use of the Office365 Home with OneDrive subscription. No domain or anything special. The bootstrap script runs from a share on a NAS and downloads stuff either via the Internet, or off a separate deployment share. Thanks. Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Office 2016 as Windows 10 app
by Andrew Hodgson 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

Hi all, Not strictly sysadmin related but for a long time now I have had a PowerShell bootstrap script which sets up everything on a clean Windows install. I used to install Office Click to Run using the .Exe downloaded from the MS website, however this is becoming problematic of late as older versions don't install correctly and sometimes mess up. A while ago I got a new laptop from Dell and noticed as part of the out of box experience it verified I had an Office365 subscription and downloaded the apps from the Windows store. I used the OEM installation image for a week with JFW and the apps seemed to work well, so I am now using these apps as part of my new installation. I can't script it, but going into the Windows store and re-downloading Office and iTunes directly from the store is a hell of a lot better then messing around with rubbish .Exe files which aren't meant to be scripted anyway. A few weeks ago I lost use of Excel 2016 (when moving around cells I can't read the contents via JFW without copying and pasting). Now I have an MSDN subscription and on one machine I reverted to using the Office 2016 MSI which works fine. There was a recent JFW update which mentioned Excel issues with cells and I thought this would fix things but it didn't. I emailed the support people about this in the UK and they have told me to repair Office, something which isn't available using the store versions. So I wanted to start a discussion to find out whether installing the Office 2016 from the store is a bad idea for screen reader users generally, if there are differences with updates to the store versions as opposed to the versions available by downloading the .Exe from the MS website, and if anyone has a good way of scripting the .Exe download and install. I should say that I have been using this method since around February 2018 and when iTunes got published to the store I am using that as well, I rebuild the systems fairly regularly. These are all home based systems running either Windows 10 Home or Pro with a MS account as the user account, making use of the Office365 Home with OneDrive subscription. No domain or anything special. The bootstrap script runs from a share on a NAS and downloads stuff either via the Internet, or off a separate deployment share. Thanks. Andrew.

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Re: repeater not repeating
by David Mehler 23 Aug '18

23 Aug '18

Hi, Thanks. I'll check out those powerlines. As for Spectrum they no longer charge for modem rentals, they do however charge for their Wifi and router, which is the problem now. They use something called a wave2 which puts out great signal and has incredible band width, i'd like to get something equivalent to or better than this router preferably something that is dd-wrt supported. I will then add the powerlines to that type of setup. Router recommendations appreciated. Thanks. Dave. On 8/23/18, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > Not sure if you have these in the US but I have had really good experiences > with Devolo Powerline adaptors, including their wireless extender kit. The > software isn't good on the desktop, but if you buy the wireless kit you can > use the web interface on the wireless unit to control the other units as > well which is what I did when I used them. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Mehler <dave.mehler(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 22 August 2018 23:04 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: repeater not repeating > > Hello, > > I'm going to have to rethink this since Spectrum's equipment is so > tempermental. > > Aside, does anyone use Spectrum and their wireless package? If so, do you > have the sb1602 cable modem and the wave2 router? If so, what do you think > of those? > > With regards powerline adapters can anyone recommend good reliable ones? > > Thanks. > Dave. > > > On 8/21/18, Anatoliy Shudrya <anatoliyshudrya(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> If 2 routers are not close enough for an ethernet connection between >> them that is what 300 Ft? Maybe wireless connection is too distant? I >> found out that on the Aerohive mesh mode the router would connect >> wirelessly to the other router approximately 100 FT and not any more. >> Of course, same thing same channels, same SSIDs, same signal level etc. on >> both routers. >> >> Maybe try to move routers closer together and see if they will connect. >> >> I never attempted the setup with Asus routers and DD-WRT and don't >> know how their repeater protocols work. >> >> Anatoliy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Mehler <dave.mehler(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:51 AM >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: repeater not repeating >> >> Hi Bill, >> >> Thanks for your reply. The two routers are definitely not close enough >> for an ethernet connection between the two. What about a wds setup? >> Would that work? I was hoping that the repeater would repeat the >> signal from >> router1 including the SSID. >> >> Thanks. >> Dave. >> >> >> On 8/20/18, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> For this sort of thing, I think you may need a different SS ID. If >>> the routers were connected by ethernet (which is a better solution), >>> you could set the second one up as a wireless access point and mirror >>> the SS ID. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 20, 2018, at 20:26, David Mehler <dave.mehler(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've got an issue with a repeater router it's not repeating. >>>> >>>> My setup is a cable modem, going to an ISP-provided router, (I'll be >>>> getting rid of that and it's not relevant), and an Asus RTN66U >>>> running dd-wrt daisy chained on to the isp-provided router. To this >>>> setup I've got a multi-story home and want to add a repeater. So on >>>> the second floor I've got another Asus RTN66U also running dd-wrt >>>> that I'm trying to get to repeat the signal from the other router. >>>> On the second floor router i've turned on repeater-bridge mode in >>>> case I want to hook a client in via ethernet, and set wan connection >>>> type to disabled. Under security i've turned off everything as >>>> security should be handled by the primary router. I've also switched >>>> from AP to repeater-bridge. In the wireless configuration i'm >>>> eventually wanting to repeat both the >>>> 2.4 and 5GHZ signals, but for now am only trying to get the 2.4 going. >>>> All those settings match the primary router, SSID, channel, WPA2 >>>> key, etc. >>>> >>>> Currently I have an ethernet plugged in to the second router and am >>>> trying via wireless to obtain a dhcp address from the primary router >>>> which they should be talking. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Dave. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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repeater not repeating
by David Mehler 23 Aug '18

23 Aug '18

Hello, I've got an issue with a repeater router it's not repeating. My setup is a cable modem, going to an ISP-provided router, (I'll be getting rid of that and it's not relevant), and an Asus RTN66U running dd-wrt daisy chained on to the isp-provided router. To this setup I've got a multi-story home and want to add a repeater. So on the second floor I've got another Asus RTN66U also running dd-wrt that I'm trying to get to repeat the signal from the other router. On the second floor router i've turned on repeater-bridge mode in case I want to hook a client in via ethernet, and set wan connection type to disabled. Under security i've turned off everything as security should be handled by the primary router. I've also switched from AP to repeater-bridge. In the wireless configuration i'm eventually wanting to repeat both the 2.4 and 5GHZ signals, but for now am only trying to get the 2.4 going. All those settings match the primary router, SSID, channel, WPA2 key, etc. Currently I have an ethernet plugged in to the second router and am trying via wireless to obtain a dhcp address from the primary router which they should be talking. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. Dave.

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Cheapest way to get a 2nd network connection
by John G Heim 18 Aug '18

18 Aug '18

I am trying to help someone with a home office. She has a single ethernet port in this room where she made her office. But she wants to move her network printer into the room. So we need a second ethernet port. For now, I loaned her aa 5-port switch. It seems like overkill. I don't like wasting electricity. What I'd really like is something like a USB dongle that essentially serves as a hub. Something low power, small. Any ideas? If it was my own linux machine, I'd put in a 2nd ethernet card and enable packet forwarding in the kernel. But she wouldn't want me to mess with that. -- -- John G. Heim; jheim(a)math.wisc.edu; sip://jheim@sip.linphone.org

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Re: Cheapest way to get a 2nd network connection
by Ben Mustill-Rose 17 Aug '18

17 Aug '18

Honestly I'd just get a consumer level switch and be done with it. If you wanted to go the DIY root I'm sure you could build something out of a Pi and a USB NIC but I'd be waying up the cost and time taken against how much power, if any it would actually save. On 8/17/18, Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com> wrote: > Most network printers have WiFi capabilities that work just as well as if > they were on a RJ45 connection. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John G Heim <jheim(a)math.wisc.edu> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 1:24 PM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Cheapest way to get a 2nd network connection > > I am trying to help someone with a home office. She has a single ethernet > port in this room where she made her office. But she wants to move her > network printer into the room. So we need a second ethernet port. For now, I > loaned her aa 5-port switch. It seems like overkill. I don't like wasting > electricity. What I'd really like is something like a USB dongle that > essentially serves as a hub. Something low power, small. > Any ideas? If it was my own linux machine, I'd put in a 2nd ethernet card > and enable packet forwarding in the kernel. But she wouldn't want me to mess > with that. > > > -- > -- > John G. Heim; jheim(a)math.wisc.edu; sip://jheim@sip.linphone.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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Accessible managed switches?
by Zameer Mahomed 15 Aug '18

15 Aug '18

Hi listers, Just a few questions please? I've recently been playing around just for education purposes with setting up a virtual DC, DHCP etc. I'd like to venture abit in to setting up VLans and realise that I need a managed switch for this sort of thing. Is there a low-cost managed switch that I can get which is accessible with either JAWS or NVDA? Any help would be appreciated as I am new to these type of things. Kind Regards

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Re: How to use a WDS Server?
by Eigeldinger Simon 14 Aug '18

14 Aug '18

Hi Lukasz, We already have some images up there. we have a win 2008 R2 WDS Server and we distribute Win 10 Version 1803 images so that should work pretty well. at the moment i wonder how should i pxe boot or boot so the pc receives the image. Greetings and thanks, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. August 2018 14:03 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: How to use a WDS Server? Hi Simon, i was using WDS under Win Server 2008 r2 to deploy Windows 7 machines about a year ago, so some things below might have changed. The interface on the server side was pretty accessible and the only problematic part was actually capturing and then deploying the images. Ive used a boot.wim from Windows 10 dvd as my boot image in WDS. At the time it was necessary to use insider versions, because the build which was a stable version back then has no narrator included in the install image. From my experience it doesnt matter what version of Windows is being imaged and deployed as long as the architecture of the boot image matches the architecture of the system you want to deploy. The more problematic part was actually capturing an image, because when creating a capture image from Win 10 boot image there was no speech. Ive worked around that by booting standard boot image, starting narrator, pressing Shift+f10 to open a command prompt and launching capture wizard from there by typing WDSCapture.exe, If anything is unclear please ask Hope this helps and sorry for my English Lukasz On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 12:43:35 +0000 Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> wrote: > Hi all, > > We have a WDS server where some images are stored for some of our computers. > is someone using wds as well on this list and could tell me how to use it as a blind person? > > Greetings and thanks, > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Enabling memory integrity protection on Windows 10 Pro 1803
by Jason White 12 Aug '18

12 Aug '18

On the aforementioned Lenovo laptop (Windows 10 Pro 1803 with updates applied), I tried unsuccessfully to enable memory integrity protection in Windows Defender Security Center to improve over-all security. First, I discovered scripts on Lenovo's Web site that enabled me to change the UEFI (BIOS) settings from within Windows. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht100612 This is much better than having to enlist help to change the firmware configuration. I enabled Intel virtualization support, then rebooted the machine and confirmed that virtualization was in fact enabled using System Information. I wanted virtualization anyway, so this was a desirable change on multiple grounds - not only the need to enable it for virtualization-based security. I then tried to enable memory integrity protection in Windows Defender Security Center. The resulting error message, presented as a notification, asserts: "Memory integrity can't be started. There may be an incompatability.. There may be an incompatability on your device.. . Received at 8:51 PM" I'm curious - has anyone else here tried it, and if so, with what results? I'm running JAWS 2018, although I have no reason to believe that it may be involved other than the fact that it uses its own video and braille display drivers. Various hardware drivers from their respective vendors are of course installed as well. For anyone who has enabled Memory Integrity Protection, have there been any adverse consequences?

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