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win10 in UEFI with secure boot
by David Mehler 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

Hello, I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10? Thanks. Dave.

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Freedom scientific accessibility display driver and RDP
by Anatoliy Shudrya 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

Hi, When I RDP to remote PC on windows 10. Latest OS, latest JAWS 2018, I get JFW alert "The freedom scientific accessibility display driver is not installed properly, pls do the repair etc. Is this something related to the display driver of my Lenovo machine? I have tried to remotely reinstall JAWS, I still get the error. Anybody experiences same thing? Is there quick solution to this without performing JAWS repair? If this is not sys admin related, please forgive. D Kind Regards Anatoliy

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Freedom scientific accessibility display driver and RDP
by Anatoliy Shudrya 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

Hi, When I RDP to remote PC on windows 10. Latest OS, latest JAWS 2018, I get JFW alert "The freedom scientific accessibility display driver is not installed properly, pls do the repair etc. Is this something related to the display driver of my Lenovo machine? I have tried to remotely reinstall JAWS, I still get the error. Anybody experiences same thing? Is there quick solution to this without performing JAWS repair? If this is not sys admin related, please forgive. D Kind Regards Anatoliy

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot
by Isaac 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

it is well documented on google. Hear is the following as the first google result below. " 32bit is unable to boot on a UEFI GPT disk computer. Only 64bit will work." https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn640535(v=vs.85)… I downloaded a Windows 8.1 Single Language 64 bit ISO strictly as a test (as Microsoft doesn't make Bing version available (yet?) for download), used Rufus to set partition scheme to GPT for UEFI and file system as FAT32 and created the new image. WARNING: If your laptop came with Windows 8 or 8.1 with Bing you will not be able to install any other version of Windows 8 or 8.1 other than Bing. You might be able to use a generic key during setup to get it installed but your Windows will not be activated afterwards as your OEM key is integrated into your firmware and will not activate any other version of Windows 8 other than with Bing. Make sure you have secured either a recovery partition or ISO of this exact version before wiping off your hard drive. If you have used the correct Windows 8 with Bing ISO you will not be asked to enter a product key during setup but rather will be taken straight to the Terms & Policy agreement page. Once I plugged in the flash drive, it booted right away into installation setup while in Secure Boot enabled / Legacy Support disabled mode. This was what I was trying to do all along. Regarding my other laptop with the Windows 10 experiencing the same problem: I was so preoccupied with fixing the Windows 8.1 laptop that I never bothered to reformat my flash drive to GPT and FAT32 and had mistakenly installed the correct 64 bit but as a NTFS file system. All I had to do was create a new image with the right settings (above) and sure enough Windows 10 recognized the flash drive immediately and I now have Win 10 installed with Secure Boot enabled / Legacy Support disabled. Lesson learned: 1. Download correct 64 bit ISO and don't settle on 32 bit even though the OS will still work for the most part. 2. Format your flash drive as GPT partition and FAT32 using Rufus - Don't use Windows USB/DVD Download Tool as it automatically creates NTFS format without you being able to control its settings and it also doesn't provide you options on controlling the partition schemes. Rufus will save you a lot of time and running around. 3. If installing a fresh Windows, boot the ISO with Secure Boot enabled/Legacy Support disabled otherwise you can't change it afterwards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M F Mason" <mfmason(a)blinding-flash.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; "'Blind sysadmins list'" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; "'Ben Mustill-Rose'" <ben(a)benmr.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot > Hello, > > If I had had a question relating to BIOS UEFI and accessibility, > This is just the forum I would have chosen for my query. > I would cautiously question the notion that the idea of a blind person > wanting to learn more about how to boot from a USB pen together with the > need of changing BIOS and UEFI settings is well documented on Google. > > I hope people continue to contribute > and share their knowledge about such issues. > > Many thanks, > > Mike. > > At 21:10 23/04/2018, matt.bsa(a)wh1t3.net wrote: >>I tend to agree with Brian and Ben. Many of these questions are not really >>accessibility-related and are well documented, every-day things that we >>all deal with. >>Since traffic is generally light I don't get too worked up about the >>oddball questions--but, since you asked ... >> >>Then again, I have been in the field for 20 years so my perspective may be >>a bit jaded. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> On >>Behalf Of Brian Moore >>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 09:16 >>To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ben >>Mustill-Rose <ben(a)benmr.com> >>Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot >> >>personally, I don't have a problem. >> >>However, I have to concur with Ben about the ability to dig up stuff >>yourself. This is probably my most frequently used IT skill and really >>should be tried before writing to a list like this. I am happy to help if >>I know something but when I encounter questions that have an answer that >>would have taken less time to look up than to write the email with the >>question, it can get a little frustrating if there are a lot of them. >> >> >>Brian. >> >> >>On 04/23/2018 7:40 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > It doesn't bother me but that's only because this is a low traffic >> > list. Booting windows 10 isn't really sysadmin related. Accessible >> > ways of reading credit cards definitely isn't sysadmin related. >> > Motherboard choices aren't sysadmin related - I could go on. >> > >> > I've also noticed that a large number of questions on this list aren't >> > actually blindness specific and could be resolved with a quick Google. >> > Tough love time, but if you can't be bothered to Google something >> > you're going to find it incredibly hard to get any kind of job in the >> > IT industry. There are frequently days at work where my most valuable >> > skill isn't IT related per se - it's my ability to find things out for >> > myself. This is paticularly important for blind people as the >> > constraints that we operate under mean that we'll typically need to do >> > more research than others when it comes to learning new systems and >> > the like. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Ben. >> > >> > On 4/23/18, Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins >> > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: >> >> Doesn't bother me. >> >> >> >> On 23 April 2018 at 12:10, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> Seconded about the media creator tool. Also I think the issue is >> >>> the USB drive shouldn't be GPT itself. >> >>> >> >>> On a side note I am wondering if people are generally ok with all >> >>> the discussion about booting, WinPE and recovery stuff that seems to >> >>> get posted to this list? If they are it's not a problem, and we >> >>> haven't had any complaints, but these topics I think could be >> >>> discussed on more of the general lists possibly? >> >>> >> >>> Discuss. >> >>> Andrew. >> >>> ________________________________________ >> >>> From: Blind-sysadmins >> >>> [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] >> >>> on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose [ben(a)benmr.com] >> >>> Sent: 23 April 2018 10:26 >> >>> To: Blind sysadmins list >> >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] win10 in UEFI with secure boot >> >>> >> >>> Try it with the media creation tool from Microsoft. If it won't boot >> >>> using that you have other issues as the drive will be UEFI & secure >> >>> boot compatible if you use that tool. >> >>> >> >>> On 4/23/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> I used rofus and wrote win10 1709 iso to a thumb drive. I used gpt >> >>>> partition for UEFI and Fat32 format. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks. >> >>>> Dave. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 4/22/18, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben(a)benmr.com> wrote: >> >>>>> How did you write win 10 to the drive? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 4/22/18, David Mehler <dave.mehler(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Hello, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, >> >>>>>> which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure >> >>>>>> boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or >> >>>>>> both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive >> and reinstall win10? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks. >> >>>>>> Dave. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> >>>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >>>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> >>>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> >>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> >>> Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Kieran Little >> >> IT Apprentice >> >> Information Services >> >> Northumberland County Council >> >> County Hall >> >> Morpeth >> >> NE61 2EF >> >> Service desk: 01670 627004 >> >> Direct: 01670623699 >> >> Email: kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk >> >> Website: www.northumberland.gov.uk >> >> >> >> -- >> >> <http://www.northumberland.gov.uk> >> >> >> >> *Save Time Do It Online!* >> >> We have made >> >> a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to >> >> access. 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win10 in UEFI with secure boot
by David Mehler 22 Apr '18

22 Apr '18

Hello, I am trying to get a Lenovo laptop to boot off of a thumb drive, which is not working. The system is in UEFI mode and has secure boot on. If anyone has a Lenovo is there a way I can turn one or both of these temporarily off so I can boot from thumb drive and reinstall win10? Thanks. Dave.

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] accessing a natted vm
by Jason White 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

If I'm not sure whether I can connect to a host at a low level, I start with a ping command, then if that succeeds, move to higher-level protocols. I think the error message is indicative in this case, but where it isn't, I find the above procedure useful. On 4/20/18, 04:40, "Blind-sysadmins on behalf of Andrew Hodgson" <blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org on behalf of andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: Hi, If you get a 404 it tells me that a web server is listening there and the NATting may be working. I would look at your Apache logs to see if the request is hitting the server you believe it should be hitting, and if so then what the issue is on that server in Apache itself which is stopping the default document from coming up. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of David Mehler [dave.mehler(a)gmail.com] Sent: 20 April 2018 04:54 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] accessing a natted vm Hello, I've got VMware workstation I think it's 12 or 13 running on win10 x64. I've got several Linux guests all natted. I'd like to access running services on those guests. When I go to for example 192.168.237.133 attempting to pull up the default apache page I get a 404 site not found. I checked on the guest the apache is running and there is no firewall active on the guest. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Outbound SMTP from Microsoft Outlook for Mac
by Jason White 21 Apr '18

21 Apr '18

For the record, I debugged the SMTP transaction today and solved it. It appears that Microsoft Outlook for Mac doesn't support the "plain" authentication method for outbound SMTP/SASL connections, even though it's fine for IMAP. Changing the authentication mechanisms in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-auth.conf to auth_mechanisms = plain login fixed it. On 2/13/18, 20:05, "Blind-sysadmins on behalf of Jason White via Blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org on behalf of blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: This is mildly interesting: I have a Postfix server configured to offer SASL on port 587. Dovecot is providing the SASL support. Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Mac fails to send messages out via my server, reporting that it doesn't support any of the available authentication methods. Meanwhile, Microsoft Outlook for Windows can send messages via the server without any difficulties. I've played with configuration settings, but with no luck. If I try to enable logging on Outlook for Mac, various operations (including, crucially, creating a new message) become unavailable, and it never seems to finish reading the inbox. Without logging enabled, it's able to read IMAP folders fine. This doesn't really matter - I have plenty of other ways of sending mail, even when using the Mac, but if anyone here has clues about the mystery, I would be interested. It's worth noting that Outlook 2016 for Mac works reasonably well with VoiceOver. Unfortunately, it doesn't implement equivalents to many of the keyboard shortcuts (especially for commands in the ribbon) found in the Windows version. Thus, for example, changing to a different folder is a slow process - I haven't found a faster method than scrolling through the list with cursor keys. Nevertheless, someone at Microsoft has evidently been paying attention to its accessibility, and that's a positive development. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Accessibility shortcut for windows tab.
by Anatoliy Shudrya 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

Hi, Does anybody know a shortcut combination to turn on/off JAWS, NVDA or Narrator on a surface 3 without keyboard? Thanks Anatoliy

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Accessibility shortcut for windows tab.
by Anatoliy Shudrya 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

Hi, Does anybody know a shortcut combination to turn on/off JAWS, NVDA or Narrator on a surface 3 without keyboard? Thanks Anatoliy

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accessing a natted vm
by David Mehler 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

Hello, I've got VMware workstation I think it's 12 or 13 running on win10 x64. I've got several Linux guests all natted. I'd like to access running services on those guests. When I go to for example 192.168.237.133 attempting to pull up the default apache page I get a 404 site not found. I checked on the guest the apache is running and there is no firewall active on the guest. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave.

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