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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partitio12 bytes instead of the 4096 bytes that is norma. I have been told that could cause the issue I am experiencing. However, I have found no where in the Server setup utility nor the documentation n
by Frank Ventura 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Andrew, thanks I am thinking the same thing that this is not a partition size issue at all for the same reason; that the disk manager shows it as the correct size with no unallocated space on disk. The first time I ran the setup utility I used the default of 12gb, the second time I set it to 20gb with the same results. I still haven't located a link to the latest disk image of the install utility. Like I said the only oddity I can see is that CHKDSK reports the cluster size of the C partition as being 512 bytes instead of the normal 4096 bytes. I have been told by someone else that the cluster size could cause the issue I am having. However, I cannot find anything in the server setup utility, nor the documentation for the Sc440 or Dell SAS 5ir RAID controller to specify a cluster size. Thanks for all the help Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:43 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, I am slightly worried about using Partition Magic, especially if you see the partition size is the expected disk size minus the utility partition. Did you download the latest version of the Dell installation utility? There is also a firmware update DVD you could download, which would ensure that the software you were running on for example the RAID controller, BIOS etc, was current. When you are going through the steps of the Dell utility, after the RAID selection screens, there is an option to choose the size of the initial OS partition. What did you do at that step? Did you just enter the maximum HDD size, or stick with the default? Was the default 5GB or 12GB? Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura [Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com] Sent: 05 January 2009 02:04 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, I tried to reinstall it again this afternoon with the same results. This time I used RAID 1 instead of RAID 0. Properties of the C: drive as shown by Windows Explorer shows 5GB. Disk manager reports the C: partition correctly as 231.8 GB. Disk manager also reports the Utility partition correctly as a 39mb ISA configuration partition. The Dell set up utility only seems to give me disk options to change from RAID 1 or 0 and the type of file system which I have selected NTFS both times. I wanted to try partion magic, however I went to www.partitionmagic.com and it said it only was for XP and Windows 2000. Is there a version that can be purchased for Windows 2003? I am really out of ideas on this and any would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by White, Matt 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

RAID0 on a server--especially on the system disk is a bad idea; if something happens to either disk, everything is lost. You will needed sighted assistance to use Acronis Disk Director but it will definitely work on a Dell server; you can grab a demo from their web site. Sorry if I missed the response but what do you encounter when in Disk Management? Matt

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Thanks, I tried to reinstall it again this afternoon with the same results. This time I used RAID 1 instead of RAID 0. Properties of the C: drive as shown by Windows Explorer shows 5GB. Disk manager reports the C: partition correctly as 231.8 GB. Disk manager also reports the Utility partition correctly as a 39mb ISA configuration partition. The Dell set up utility only seems to give me disk options to change from RAID 1 or 0 and the type of file system which I have selected NTFS both times. I wanted to try partion magic, however I went to www.partitionmagic.com and it said it only was for XP and Windows 2000. Is there a version that can be purchased for Windows 2003? I am really out of ideas on this and any would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Thanks, that is one question I forgot to ask the pair of eyes I borrowed so I don't know the version of the Dell install utility. I am sure it is not current. Is there a download link for the latest version of the SAS installer? Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 9:57 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, these give you the later driver versions as well. Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit tight for W2k3. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. Frank Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk The type of the file system is NTFS. Volume label is . WARNING! F parameter not specified. Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... 28096 file records processed. File verification completed. 1584 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 0 EA records processed. 0 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... 91069 index entries processed. Index verification completed. 5 unindexed files processed. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... 28096 security descriptors processed. Security descriptor verification completed. 1824 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... 8401456 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed. 5004215 KB total disk space. 3061291 KB in 24657 files. 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. 0 KB in bad sectors. 66118 KB in use by the system. 27072 KB occupied by the log file. 1869649 KB available on disk. 512 bytes in each allocation unit. 10008431 total allocation units on disk. 3739299 allocation units available on disk. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the entire size of the C partition? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Barry thanks, I may check that out. Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. Frank Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk The type of the file system is NTFS. Volume label is . WARNING! F parameter not specified. Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... 28096 file records processed. File verification completed. 1584 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 0 EA records processed. 0 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... 91069 index entries processed. Index verification completed. 5 unindexed files processed. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... 28096 security descriptors processed. Security descriptor verification completed. 1824 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... 8401456 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed. 5004215 KB total disk space. 3061291 KB in 24657 files. 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. 0 KB in bad sectors. 66118 KB in use by the system. 27072 KB occupied by the log file. 1869649 KB available on disk. 512 bytes in each allocation unit. 10008431 total allocation units on disk. 3739299 allocation units available on disk. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the entire size of the C partition? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 2:14 PM

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Barry, thanks can partition magic resize the active boot partition and is it accessible with JFW? Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 8:37 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition How about using partition magic to resize the partition? Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 2:14 PM

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Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the entire size of the C partition? Thanks Frank

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA
by Andrew Hodgson 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Hi, Actually there are many different controllers that Dell put into their servers, depending on what you wanted at the time. It is possible that you could disable this in the BIOS, even with the add-on controller, by changing the disk mode from RAID to SATA, though I have tended to only do this with higher end Poweredge models. On another tack, why are you trying to get rid of the RAID? Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Frank Ventura [Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com] Sent: 29 December 2008 12:58 To: Andrew Hodgson Subject: RE: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA Hi Andrew, I believe the Dell has their own branded 5i/R RAID controller installed. It is an exspansion slot on the motherboard, not intergral to the motherboard. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:36 AM To: Frank Ventura Subject: RE: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA hi, do you know which RAID controller you have in the machine currently? thanks. andrew. --- original message --- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA Date: 29th December 2008 Time: 4:38:34 am Hi all we have a Dell Poweredge SC440 which currently has a factory RAID controller with two 250gb drives in a RAID 0 configuration. We would like to eliminate the RAID configuration and boot from a SATA hard disk. What is involved in this? Is it as simple as removing the RAID controller and installing a SATA controller and attaching it to a SATA hard disk? Are there any changes to the BIOS that must be made? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: 12/28/2008 2:23 PM

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA
by Andrew Hodgson 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Hi, Actually there are many different controllers that Dell put into their servers, depending on what you wanted at the time. It is possible that you could disable this in the BIOS, even with the add-on controller, by changing the disk mode from RAID to SATA, though I have tended to only do this with higher end Poweredge models. On another tack, why are you trying to get rid of the RAID? Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Frank Ventura [Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com] Sent: 29 December 2008 12:58 To: Andrew Hodgson Subject: RE: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA Hi Andrew, I believe the Dell has their own branded 5i/R RAID controller installed. It is an exspansion slot on the motherboard, not intergral to the motherboard. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:andrew@hodgsonfamily.org] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:36 AM To: Frank Ventura Subject: RE: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA hi, do you know which RAID controller you have in the machine currently? thanks. andrew. --- original message --- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Dell RAID to SATA Date: 29th December 2008 Time: 4:38:34 am Hi all we have a Dell Poweredge SC440 which currently has a factory RAID controller with two 250gb drives in a RAID 0 configuration. We would like to eliminate the RAID configuration and boot from a SATA hard disk. What is involved in this? Is it as simple as removing the RAID controller and installing a SATA controller and attaching it to a SATA hard disk? Are there any changes to the BIOS that must be made? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: 12/28/2008 2:23 PM

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