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XP CD?
by Ibraam Wahib 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

hello members: please I need to make a cd contains win-xp pro + jaws and all programs that I am using, and my drivers. could you send me the good program to make this package? and a tutorial about doing that? I need to make it accessible for the blind during setup. thanks. ibraam

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Accessible Disk Imagers
by Steve Matzura 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

I'm the sys admin for a small network--my home network--which has, among other things, five desktops and two laptops running XP SP2. I recently had to rebuild one after something, and I still don't know what that something was, turned most of my machine into just so much cole slaw. It all started with trying to uninstall a trial version of a voice dialer called VoiceIt or something similar. Anyway, the uninstall went bad, and took the rest of the machine with it. One New Year's resolution I'm deciding is a must-keep is to image all my boot drives in the house and pack 'em away against the day, which will hopefully never come, when I need them. I just took a Dell Dimension 4700 and rolled it back to factory defaults through use of the Dell System Recovery Environment (DSRE), which is a fancy shmancy name for nothing more than a hidden partition with a Ghost image and some batch file control on the front end to automate the process. I had just a wee bit of trouble with it in that somehow something (possibly even the deinstall of VoiceIt) had broken the master boot record for the hidden partition wherein the DSRE is located. Thanks to a gentleman on the net named Dan Goodell, I was able to put Humpty Dumpty together again and with about two minutes help from my self-proclaimed Ludite wife, brought the 4700 back to life. This is Something I wish not to have to repeat. Ever. What was great about the DSRE was that it worked flawlessly. What was horrible about it was, of course, that it had no speech. So now that the computer's been completely updated and all the software I want on it has been reinstalled and everything's at a nice stable state, it's now time to do the deed and make another image, this one hopefully bootable from a CD and maybe even with some speech and accessible. Mind you, I'm going to have to do this, whatever it is, at least six times, so I'd like whatever I build to be accessible everywhere. I was even thinking really big like get a USB drive and put all the images on it and have a bootable front-end where I select which image I want to restore, and it just goes and does it. What are folks thoughts on how to do this?

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Windows 7 Installation
by Frank Ventura 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hello all, I am most likely going to download the beta of Windows 7 from Microsoft this weekend. Can anyone tell me if there is a unattended install available for this upcoming version of Windows or will I need a pair of eyes to install it? Any differences in the installation procedure from a blindness perspective? Thanks Frank Ventura, MCP

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Hi folks, I just wanted to thank everyone who helped with my problem setting up the Dell SAS5ir RAID controller. In the end I ran the Dell server setup utility again and the third time was a charm. The only thing is I wish I knew why since I really didn't do anything different then the second time. Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:19 AM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, On the Dell website, go to the SC440, then in the categories, the files are under systems management. You need to download the 5.5.0 DVD ISO (assuming you have a DVD rom drive), and the ISO containing the firmeware updates. The firmware update DVD can be used in Windows or from within the systems management bootable disk. If you have a CD drive only then you need to download an older version of the software, 5.3, again it is on the same page. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ventura [mailto:Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com] Sent: 06 January 2009 03:01 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, I did download the demo and it will not install on Server 2003. I also tried reinstalling the OS in a RAID 1 configuration, as opposed to the RAID 0 I tried last time. The same thing happened. There are two 250gb drives in the array. Disk management reports the C partition as being 231.8gb, which would be correct (this being the "DM disk view in disk management). The properties of the C drive as reported by Windows Explorer shows the capacity as 5gb and I cannot use any of the rest of the space (226 or so GB). I found the drivers for the Dell 5ir controller on the support.dell.com site. I installed them with no difference. I could not find the ISO image of the latest Dell setup disk. After identifying it as a SC440 and a 5IR controller I don't see any links to disk images. I was thinking of installing the drivers onto a floppy and hitting F6 after booting from the Windows disk. How can I set up the drivers on the floppy or can I just copy the .exe files onto the floppy? Thanks for all of your suggestions. Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, It used to only work with desktop OS versions because they sold a server version, but I think the later ones should work. Download a demo and see. However, I will send another message, as this is not expected behaviour. Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart [rshugart(a)pcisys.net] Sent: 05 January 2009 02:21 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Frank: As a general rule, if it runs on XP it should work on Server 2003 as well. There are acceptions for things like high end video and gaming hardware, but I would imagine Partition Magic wouldn't have a problem on 2003. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:05 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, I tried to reinstall it again this afternoon with the same results. This time I used RAID 1 instead of RAID 0. Properties of the C: drive as shown by Windows Explorer shows 5GB. Disk manager reports the C: partition correctly as 231.8 GB. Disk manager also reports the Utility partition correctly as a 39mb ISA configuration partition. The Dell set up utility only seems to give me disk options to change from RAID 1 or 0 and the type of file system which I have selected NTFS both times. I wanted to try partion magic, however I went to www.partitionmagic.com and it said it only was for XP and Windows 2000. Is there a version that can be purchased for Windows 2003? I am really out of ideas on this and any would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] jfw10 on a thumb drive
by Frank Ventura 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Andrew, even with the thumb drive and dongle inserted (both USB ports) I still think the video intercept needs to be installed on the boot drive. I don't see any plug and play means of running JFW such as System access has. Of course, I could be wrong and I would welcome being wrong on this one. Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:00 PM To: dave.mehler(a)gmail.com; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] jfw10 on a thumb drive Hi, Last time I looked this was not possible, the best they came up with was that you could use the thumb drive with the dongle, meaning two USB ports!! I asked whether they would ever do a dongle with the integrated flash memory for the thumb drive, I didn't get an answer to this. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 06 January 2009 22:34 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Cc: jfw(a)freelists.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] jfw10 on a thumb drive Hello, Is it possible to run a full version of jfw10 off a thumb drive? Fs's docs say you need a locally installed auth key or a network server. I was wondering if it is possible to install the key on the thumb drive. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1879 - Release Date: 1/6/2009 5:16 PM

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Andrew, thank you very much. I found the 5.3 CD version and will give that a show. Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:19 AM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, On the Dell website, go to the SC440, then in the categories, the files are under systems management. You need to download the 5.5.0 DVD ISO (assuming you have a DVD rom drive), and the ISO containing the firmeware updates. The firmware update DVD can be used in Windows or from within the systems management bootable disk. If you have a CD drive only then you need to download an older version of the software, 5.3, again it is on the same page. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ventura [mailto:Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com] Sent: 06 January 2009 03:01 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, I did download the demo and it will not install on Server 2003. I also tried reinstalling the OS in a RAID 1 configuration, as opposed to the RAID 0 I tried last time. The same thing happened. There are two 250gb drives in the array. Disk management reports the C partition as being 231.8gb, which would be correct (this being the "DM disk view in disk management). The properties of the C drive as reported by Windows Explorer shows the capacity as 5gb and I cannot use any of the rest of the space (226 or so GB). I found the drivers for the Dell 5ir controller on the support.dell.com site. I installed them with no difference. I could not find the ISO image of the latest Dell setup disk. After identifying it as a SC440 and a 5IR controller I don't see any links to disk images. I was thinking of installing the drivers onto a floppy and hitting F6 after booting from the Windows disk. How can I set up the drivers on the floppy or can I just copy the .exe files onto the floppy? Thanks for all of your suggestions. Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi, It used to only work with desktop OS versions because they sold a server version, but I think the later ones should work. Download a demo and see. However, I will send another message, as this is not expected behaviour. Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart [rshugart(a)pcisys.net] Sent: 05 January 2009 02:21 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Frank: As a general rule, if it runs on XP it should work on Server 2003 as well. There are acceptions for things like high end video and gaming hardware, but I would imagine Partition Magic wouldn't have a problem on 2003. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:05 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, I tried to reinstall it again this afternoon with the same results. This time I used RAID 1 instead of RAID 0. Properties of the C: drive as shown by Windows Explorer shows 5GB. Disk manager reports the C: partition correctly as 231.8 GB. Disk manager also reports the Utility partition correctly as a 39mb ISA configuration partition. The Dell set up utility only seems to give me disk options to change from RAID 1 or 0 and the type of file system which I have selected NTFS both times. I wanted to try partion magic, however I went to www.partitionmagic.com and it said it only was for XP and Windows 2000. Is there a version that can be purchased for Windows 2003? I am really out of ideas on this and any would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi Matt, I get the same results no matter if I use RAID 0 or 1. Disk management shows the correct size of the C partition (in the case of RAID 1 it is 231.8 gb). However, in Windows Explorer the properties of the C drive show it to have a capacity of only 5gb and I cannot use any space beyond the 5gb. Running CHKDSK on the C partition shows the cluster size to be 512 bytes instead of the expected 4096 bytes. However, I cannot find anywhere in the Dell Server setup utility nor the RAID controller to specify this value. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of White, Matt Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:31 AM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition RAID0 on a server--especially on the system disk is a bad idea; if something happens to either disk, everything is lost. You will needed sighted assistance to use Acronis Disk Director but it will definitely work on a Dell server; you can grab a demo from their web site. Sorry if I missed the response but what do you encounter when in Disk Management? Matt _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 4:32 PM

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partitio12 bytes instead of the 4096 bytes that is norma. I have been told that could cause the issue I am experiencing. However, I have found no where in the Server setup utility nor the documentation n
by Frank Ventura 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Andrew, thanks I am thinking the same thing that this is not a partition size issue at all for the same reason; that the disk manager shows it as the correct size with no unallocated space on disk. The first time I ran the setup utility I used the default of 12gb, the second time I set it to 20gb with the same results. I still haven't located a link to the latest disk image of the install utility. Like I said the only oddity I can see is that CHKDSK reports the cluster size of the C partition as being 512 bytes instead of the normal 4096 bytes. I have been told by someone else that the cluster size could cause the issue I am having. However, I cannot find anything in the server setup utility, nor the documentation for the Sc440 or Dell SAS 5ir RAID controller to specify a cluster size. Thanks for all the help Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:43 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, I am slightly worried about using Partition Magic, especially if you see the partition size is the expected disk size minus the utility partition. Did you download the latest version of the Dell installation utility? There is also a firmware update DVD you could download, which would ensure that the software you were running on for example the RAID controller, BIOS etc, was current. When you are going through the steps of the Dell utility, after the RAID selection screens, there is an option to choose the size of the initial OS partition. What did you do at that step? Did you just enter the maximum HDD size, or stick with the default? Was the default 5GB or 12GB? Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura [Frank.Ventura(a)littlebreezes.com] Sent: 05 January 2009 02:04 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Thanks, I tried to reinstall it again this afternoon with the same results. This time I used RAID 1 instead of RAID 0. Properties of the C: drive as shown by Windows Explorer shows 5GB. Disk manager reports the C: partition correctly as 231.8 GB. Disk manager also reports the Utility partition correctly as a 39mb ISA configuration partition. The Dell set up utility only seems to give me disk options to change from RAID 1 or 0 and the type of file system which I have selected NTFS both times. I wanted to try partion magic, however I went to www.partitionmagic.com and it said it only was for XP and Windows 2000. Is there a version that can be purchased for Windows 2003? I am really out of ideas on this and any would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 2:14 PM _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 4:32 PM

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by White, Matt 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

RAID0 on a server--especially on the system disk is a bad idea; if something happens to either disk, everything is lost. You will needed sighted assistance to use Acronis Disk Director but it will definitely work on a Dell server; you can grab a demo from their web site. Sorry if I missed the response but what do you encounter when in Disk Management? Matt

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Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition
by Frank Ventura 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Thanks, I tried to reinstall it again this afternoon with the same results. This time I used RAID 1 instead of RAID 0. Properties of the C: drive as shown by Windows Explorer shows 5GB. Disk manager reports the C: partition correctly as 231.8 GB. Disk manager also reports the Utility partition correctly as a 39mb ISA configuration partition. The Dell set up utility only seems to give me disk options to change from RAID 1 or 0 and the type of file system which I have selected NTFS both times. I wanted to try partion magic, however I went to www.partitionmagic.com and it said it only was for XP and Windows 2000. Is there a version that can be purchased for Windows 2003? I am really out of ideas on this and any would be appreciated. Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:07 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition Hi Frank, Partition Magic will resize active partitions. It'll batch the process and reboot to perform it and then auto reboot back into Windows once complete. Partition Magic I always found was one of those products that worked better with Jaws than Window Eyes. Rare but it happens. smiles Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew(a)hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > Hi, > > Not diskpart, Partition Magic or try again with the latest Dell utilities, > these give you the later driver versions as well. > > Do you know which version of the Dell utilities you were using? > > The other thing is just live with it - most servers I build have two > partitions - one for OS, and one for data, though I think 5GB may be a bit > tight for W2k3. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 13:15 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Thanks, is there a diskpart.exe command to expand the partition? Here is > the results of CHKDSK, the size of the allocation units seems incorrect > me but I don't think the Dell utility gives me an option to change that. > Frank > Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] > (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>chkdsk > The type of the file system is NTFS. > Volume label is . > > WARNING! F parameter not specified. > Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > > CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... > 28096 file records processed. > File verification completed. > 1584 large file records processed. > 0 bad file records processed. > 0 EA records processed. > 0 reparse records processed. > CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... > 91069 index entries processed. > Index verification completed. > 5 unindexed files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... > 28096 security descriptors processed. > Security descriptor verification completed. > 1824 data files processed. > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... > 8401456 USN bytes processed. > Usn Journal verification completed. > > 5004215 KB total disk space. > 3061291 KB in 24657 files. > 7156 KB in 1825 indexes. > 0 KB in bad sectors. > 66118 KB in use by the system. > 27072 KB occupied by the log file. > 1869649 KB available on disk. > > 512 bytes in each allocation unit. > 10008431 total allocation units on disk. > 3739299 allocation units available on disk. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ch > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:33 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi, > > Buy default, the Dell management software will create an initial > partition for the OS, but leave the remainder of the disk blank. Older > versions of the software (up to 4.5 I think) used to allocate 5GB by > default, whereas from 4.5 that went up to 12GB. > > Thanks. > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-sysadmins-bounces(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of > Frank Ventura > Sent: 04 January 2009 01:50 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Problems with a size of the C partition > > Hi all, I am currently rebuilding a Dell SC440 with a RAID controller > and two attached SAS 250gb drives. Originally we had these configured as > a mirrored pair. Now that we are reinstalling we ran the Dell setup > utility (with a borrowed pair of eyes) and configured it as a stripped > pair of drives. We installed Windows Server 2003 and the install went > well. We now have a huge problem that I can't seem to find a cure for > with Google. In either Disk manager or Diskpart.exe the size of the > drive is reported at around 470GB, all allocated to the C partition, > which is what I would expect to see. Howegver, the properties of the C > drive as reported in Windows Explorer show the C drive with only a > capacity of 5gb! I tried converting from Basic to Dynamic with no > change. When trying to install anything I get an out of disk space error > since it is only recognizing the first 5gb of the C partition. Does > anyone have any ideas on what to go so that Windows 2003 will see the > entire size of the C partition? > Thanks > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: > 1/3/2009 2:14 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3735 (20090104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 2:14 PM

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