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Re: PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials
by Eigeldinger Simon 14 May '19

14 May '19

Hi all, Thanks for writing in. Will check out some books i have found. And there seems also to be a lot of documentation online all over the place. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darragh Ó Héiligh <d(a)digitaldarragh.com> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Mai 2019 13:01 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials I'm not an expert by any means. I do what I need when I need it but I don't find reading books on coding to be that useful. The way I learned Power shell was to subscribe to course delivery platforms such as Pluralsites, Lynda, Linked in learning etc. I generally download their repositories then try to follow along with the video. Lynda doesn't always make this particularly easy but I've had good experience with Plural sites and Linked in learning. As they say though, necessity is the mother of all invention. Find something you want to do that annoys you. Something straight forward at first like removing all the users from a group because that's always great fun when your managing massive groups with 104,000 active users. This is a real pain using ADUC (Active Directory Users and Computers) so it was a good place to get started for me anyway. Mess around with various methods of doing this and you'll learn about writing loops, filtering, using user properties etc. Obviously, don't test on production groups. I know I don't need to say that here. I don't like the commands in power shell. But what I do like is the instant feedback. Want to see if you can insert a string into a particular object, just fire the command into the power shell command line and see what happens. Again... in your test environment... Not in your live environment. Have fun. The info switch is your friend. Oh. So is get-help. Finally, let me mention commandlets. These open up amazing possibilities. From the one power shell window, issue commands to Azure, Office365, on prem exchange, VMWare, Hyper-V and lot's of other major systems. Do I need to say it again just to be sure? On... Your... Test.. System... Power shell is great but it's also dangerous. There's always that dread when running something that's touching a lot of data or files. So, please be careful. Or don't. But if your not careful, please let us know. I like reading funny messages where other people are feeling pain and I'm not. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Sent: Sunday 12 May 2019 16:56 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials Hi all, I want to learn PowerShell. Anyone can recommend a good online book, tutorials, documentation, etc. to start off? Greetings, Simon --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials
by Eigeldinger Simon 14 May '19

14 May '19

Hi all, Thanks for writing in. Will check out some books i have found. And there seems also to be a lot of documentation online all over the place. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darragh Ó Héiligh <d(a)digitaldarragh.com> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Mai 2019 13:01 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials I'm not an expert by any means. I do what I need when I need it but I don't find reading books on coding to be that useful. The way I learned Power shell was to subscribe to course delivery platforms such as Pluralsites, Lynda, Linked in learning etc. I generally download their repositories then try to follow along with the video. Lynda doesn't always make this particularly easy but I've had good experience with Plural sites and Linked in learning. As they say though, necessity is the mother of all invention. Find something you want to do that annoys you. Something straight forward at first like removing all the users from a group because that's always great fun when your managing massive groups with 104,000 active users. This is a real pain using ADUC (Active Directory Users and Computers) so it was a good place to get started for me anyway. Mess around with various methods of doing this and you'll learn about writing loops, filtering, using user properties etc. Obviously, don't test on production groups. I know I don't need to say that here. I don't like the commands in power shell. But what I do like is the instant feedback. Want to see if you can insert a string into a particular object, just fire the command into the power shell command line and see what happens. Again... in your test environment... Not in your live environment. Have fun. The info switch is your friend. Oh. So is get-help. Finally, let me mention commandlets. These open up amazing possibilities. From the one power shell window, issue commands to Azure, Office365, on prem exchange, VMWare, Hyper-V and lot's of other major systems. Do I need to say it again just to be sure? On... Your... Test.. System... Power shell is great but it's also dangerous. There's always that dread when running something that's touching a lot of data or files. So, please be careful. Or don't. But if your not careful, please let us know. I like reading funny messages where other people are feeling pain and I'm not. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> Sent: Sunday 12 May 2019 16:56 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials Hi all, I want to learn PowerShell. Anyone can recommend a good online book, tutorials, documentation, etc. to start off? Greetings, Simon --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Reading PowerShell code with JAWS
by Glen Gordon 13 May '19

13 May '19

One thing that you could try would be to create a JAWS dictionary rule for a space followed immediately by a dash that equates to some single syllable word that you'll know to mean a dash preceeding an option. Perhaps "xxxdash." If you try this, I'm interested in knowing how well it works. Thanks --Glen Glen Gordon Vispero(tm) | Software Fellow 17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764 T 727-803-8000 F 727-803-8001 ggordon(a)vispero.com<mailto:ggordon@vispero.com> www.vispero.com<http://www.vispero.com/> From: Darragh Ó Héiligh <d(a)digitaldarragh.com> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 10:48 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Reading PowerShell code with JAWS Chris, This is a really great question. I really hate it when people respond to a really worth while question by saying somethin really meaningless and pointless like: "That's a great question" or "I would like an answer to this as well". But.. Urm... I'm going to do just that thing to you now. And to make it even worse, I'm going to write a really long pointless paragraph saying how sorry I am for doing that to you. The only way I have of reading powershell is by going character by character. The thing is with speech, it's either too much or too little. If for example, I write get-ADGroupMembership, I really don't need to know there's a dash there because, I know get is generally going to have a dash after. Power shell usually follows a convention in the command structure. So knowing there are two dashes isn't all that helpful. However, hearing the kind of brackets used would be nice. Also knowing if a pipe is provided would be nice too. But the problem is there are conventions in Power shell. To be really effective, the screen reader would need to be aware of these rules and intelligently give you the information you need to speak the punctuation on the line that is actually of value. So, unfortunately, although this is a very unhelpful and long response to your very interesting question, Braille or single character navigation might just be your best option. However, I'd like to touch on the Braille thing for a second. I love Braille. And I would use it when possible. However, it's probably just me, I certainly don't read as much as I should but having contracted Braille for commands / coding is often confusing. But computer Braille can be very long. Powershell commands are often stupidly long as well Take this example. Search for all the users in a group in active directory and find the proxy address property. That is done in just one line but it's quite lengthy. A 40 cell display just doesn't cut it. Again, it's probably just me and I'm being difficult about it but I just want to read that line. I might want to keep my finger on something at the start of the line Or I might want to go straight to the end of it. Panning is an irritation! But an 80 cell display is large and the sound of the clicking gets on my nerves. I just haven't found a really efficient way of reading code on a Braille display. Especially when that code has weird characters like !$()[]{}%^"'#~ etc. It's probably something I would get better at with time but meh. I have too much going on as it is without spending time teaching myself a new way of reading code that may or may not be more efficient than my current approach. I've been reading console windows like this for years. I'm reasonably okay with it. Sorry for my very long winded message but your question struck a chord. And although it's Sunday, I need to finish something for work and frankly, I'm putting it off because. Well, it's Sunday! I don't really want to do it today. Regards. Keep the interesting questions coming. I'll try not to clog up your inbox with as much rubbish as was contained in this rambling pointless message. Darragh From: Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com<mailto:ccn@chrisnestrud.com>> Sent: Friday 10 May 2019 21:09 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Reading PowerShell code with JAWS Hello all, I'm wondering if any of you have any tips for reading PowerShell with JAWS using speech. Here's the question that I sent to Vispero: I'm trying to use JAWS to review PowerShell code. Is there a way to have JAWS indicate a dash preceded by a space as different from a dash preceded by some other character when reading a line? For example, in this line: Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider -SessionName Session1 The first part could be understood as "Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider -SessionName" or "Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider-SessionName". Is there a way to have it read as "Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider space dash SessionName"? I recognize that Braille would be a good solution, but this needs to work with speech. In case you're interested, the Vispero representative first recommended setting the punctuation setting to all, then when I commented that this would not identify any space characters, the recommendation was to use the JAWS cursor to review character by character, with a note that a Braille display would be worth considering. Hopefully someone has found a different method better suited for reviewing lengthy code. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Chris _____________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list - blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org<mailto:blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>

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PowerShell Documentation, books and tutorials
by Simon Eigeldinger 13 May '19

13 May '19

Hi all, I want to learn PowerShell. Anyone can recommend a good online book, tutorials, documentation, etc. to start off? Greetings, Simon --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Reading PowerShell code with JAWS
by Chris Nestrud 12 May '19

12 May '19

Hello all, I'm wondering if any of you have any tips for reading PowerShell with JAWS using speech. Here's the question that I sent to Vispero: I'm trying to use JAWS to review PowerShell code. Is there a way to have JAWS indicate a dash preceded by a space as different from a dash preceded by some other character when reading a line? For example, in this line: Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider -SessionName Session1 The first part could be understood as "Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider -SessionName" or "Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider-SessionName". Is there a way to have it read as "Add-NetEventPacketCaptureProvider space dash SessionName"? I recognize that Braille would be a good solution, but this needs to work with speech. In case you're interested, the Vispero representative first recommended setting the punctuation setting to all, then when I commented that this would not identify any space characters, the recommendation was to use the JAWS cursor to review character by character, with a note that a Braille display would be worth considering. Hopefully someone has found a different method better suited for reviewing lengthy code. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Chris

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Accessibility of Windows Terminal (recently announced by Microsoft)
by Jason White 07 May '19

07 May '19

Do we have any preliminary indications of how accessible the recently announced Windows Terminal will be with screen readers? There’s a Git repository, thus much of the work appears to be taking place in the open. https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/06/microsoft-windows-terminal-wsl-2-coming-… and source code on GitHub: https://github.com/Microsoft/Terminal

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Re: NAS storage experiences and recommendations?
by Can Kırca 04 May '19

04 May '19

Hey Andrew, Firstly, thank you for your comments. Web interface is not important completely, because I'm an experienced user and can find some workaround. 3rd party app support is more important than web UI, I can use it for storing some apps as well. I don't have any information about Qnap, did you use it before? Best. 2019-05-04 23:58 GMT+03:00, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io>: > Hi, > > Another one here for the DS918+. Using it with Docker and some native VMs > running on the hardware after upgrading the RAM to 8GB (it can take 16GB if > you don't use Synology RAM). What don't you like about the web interface? > It’s a bit qwerky but you won't beat it for third-party support. Its main > competitor is QNAP so take a look at those as well. Western Digital is > pretty locked down to just its own signed apps. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 04 May 2019 18:09 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: NAS storage experiences and recommendations? > > 2 bay will be enough for me, but I can't find a right and newer model that > supports all 3rd party app installation. Synology website is not good as > much as I want. There are multiple models available in the local deallers, > but not sure which one is newer. > Western Digital PR2100 and PR4100 comes with 4GB ram and Pentium dual core > processor; however Device operating system is not completely secure and > useful like others. Maybe installing Apache and other apps is possible > illegally with out warranty. > > 2019-05-04 19:29 GMT+03:00, Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com>: >> Synology 918 Plus. As far as I know they all use the same DSM >> interface just with different features. >> >> Chris >> >> On Sat, May 04, 2019 at 06:53:08PM +0300, Can K??rca wrote: >>> Which model you are using? >>> >>> 2019-05-04 18:45 GMT+03:00, Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com>: >>> > The Synology DSM web interface is pretty accessible. >>> > >>> > Chris >>> > >>> > On Sat, May 04, 2019 at 04:21:30PM +0300, Can K??rca wrote: >>> >> Hello SysAdmins, >>> >> >>> >> Currendly I'm using a WD NAS unit; however due to security and >>> >> performance reasons would like to change it as soon as possible. >>> >> I have looked Synology NAS devices, they makes me excited. It >>> >> seems that we can install Apache web server and many 3rd party >>> >> apps to use on the LAN. >>> >> Do you have any experience for Synology devices? 218+ seems well. >>> >> Some users are installed Ubuntu and NextCloud to Western Digital >>> >> NAS devices pro series PR2100/PR4100 and they said that >>> >> performance and security problem nearly fixed with this >>> >> combination. What do you recommend for me? Does the web interface >>> >> and build-in software UI is accessible with screen readers on >>> >> Synology? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Thanks in advance. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Can K??rca >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > > > -- > Can Kırca > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > -- Can Kırca

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NAS storage experiences and recommendations?
by Can Kırca 04 May '19

04 May '19

Hello SysAdmins, Currendly I'm using a WD NAS unit; however due to security and performance reasons would like to change it as soon as possible. I have looked Synology NAS devices, they makes me excited. It seems that we can install Apache web server and many 3rd party apps to use on the LAN. Do you have any experience for Synology devices? 218+ seems well. Some users are installed Ubuntu and NextCloud to Western Digital NAS devices pro series PR2100/PR4100 and they said that performance and security problem nearly fixed with this combination. What do you recommend for me? Does the web interface and build-in software UI is accessible with screen readers on Synology? Thanks in advance.

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screen reader accessible way to SSH into linux
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 29 Apr '19

29 Apr '19

Hi All, I need to connect to an Amazon EC2 linux instance and wanted to know what the most accessible way with a screen reader is. I'm relatively new to this and i thought Putty would be a good option, but even after installing the jaws scripts, the terminal feedback isn't great. Is there a tool which shows the output as a read-only textbox, so if there is a lot of output it is easier to navigate through it? One of the common things i struggle with when using cmd for instance is reading long output, so i end up writing to file instead. I hope someone can suggest something good as this is something I will need to do more often. Kind regards, chamandeep Singh Grover

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Re: BT business hub logs for turning on and off
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 28 Apr '19

28 Apr '19

Hi, I just tested this on my bt homehub and it does log when it turns back on that there was a power reset. I however do not see anything similar on the business hub. Kind regards, Chamandeep Singh Grover <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tr> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-anima…" alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…" target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> </td> </tr> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div> On 4/28/19, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > It won't tell you when it was switched off but the uptime should give you an > indication of when it was turned back on. If the logs are persistent > between reboots you could see the messages in the log before the boot events > and that would work out a rough indication of when it was switched off (or > the last event time anyway). I don't know of a router that can tell you > when it was switched off exactly because unless it goes through a shutdown > routine it would just be a case of pulling the plug. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Sent: 28 April 2019 17:59 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] BT business hub logs for turning on and off > > Hi All, > > I am looking at a BT business hub here in the UK and I wanted to find out > when this router has been manually turned off and back on again. > I have just reviewed the event logs, but there does not seem to be any clear > indication of this information. > Does anyone have any thoughts on how I can find this information? > > Kind regards, > Chamandeep Singh Grover > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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